wuzzzer Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Good to hear there's another satisfied Forte owner! Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sberger Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 Sberger: Consider a cap upgrade or network replacement in your Forte's, and find out what you are missing. I have FIVE Forte's, all with networks replaced, and they can really sing. Enjoy!! Chris Chris, What's involved in doing this? I'm not a big dyi guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sberger Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 So it turns out that one of my passive woofer cones in the back of one of the Fortes is pressed in somewhat. I took the cone out, and tried to press it out, but couldn't. The speaker sounds fine, but what impact could this have on it, and should I think about replacing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 If you are talking about the dust cap in the center of the cone, then it will not affect the sound at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sberger Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sberger Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 Well, things are sounding remarkably better today after doing a more precise speaker set up. I measured so I got them exactly the same amount off the back wall, and got them as far apart as I could. Mind you , I have a very small living room, and one speaker is going to be closer to the side wall than the other. And I'm not going to be able to get exactly the distance from the speakers as they are apart, but the sound is much more improved. Bigger soundstage, less harsh, more bass. Yup, speaker set up is important, and obviously, I didn't do as good as job as I should have originally. Things are really starting to snap into place, and this acquisition is making more and more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk49 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Glad to hear it is all coming together. playing around with placement and equipment is all part of the journey, this hobby wouldn't be much fun if it was all just plug and play. If you are lucky, you will find someone in your area to share the fun with. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sberger Posted January 11, 2008 Author Share Posted January 11, 2008 Tom, You're right. And I guess I knew that, but for some reason the Heresy's weren't as sensitive to placement as the Forte's are. No matter, I'm glad I took what amounted to a few minutes and got it as right as I can for now. Thanks for your comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mifanning Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Even if you are not a big DYI person (which I am most definitely NOT) you should consider replacing the X-over and possibly the diaphragm for the tweeters. I did both and the results were impressive and easily heard. There are two guys that I know who do the X-over -- Bob Crites and Chris Munson a.k.a. Popbumper, who answered an earlier post on this thread. With the X-over, you just pull out the passive radiator on the rear of the speaker to create a space to make your connections. Then you pull off the speaker connection cap, snip the wires on the old X-over, which is affixed to the rear of the cap (after making sure you know where the wires are connected), connect the new X-over and voila! As for the diaphragm, it is even simpler: you just remove some screws, pull out the old diaphragm and put in the new one. About a 10-minutes process max on each speaker. If you think your speakers sing now, you're in for a real treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sberger Posted January 11, 2008 Author Share Posted January 11, 2008 Sounds doable. I've tried emailing Chris but haven't heard back. Perhaps if he's reading this he can contact me at bergersv@inbox.com . Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecruz Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Even if you are not a big DYI person (which I am most definitely NOT) you should consider replacing the X-over and possibly the diaphragm for the tweeters. I did both and the results were impressive and easily heard. There are two guys that I know who do the X-over -- Bob Crites and Chris Munson a.k.a. Popbumper, who answered an earlier post on this thread. With the X-over, you just pull out the passive radiator on the rear of the speaker to create a space to make your connections. Then you pull off the speaker connection cap, snip the wires on the old X-over, which is affixed to the rear of the cap (after making sure you know where the wires are connected), connect the new X-over and voila! As for the diaphragm, it is even simpler: you just remove some screws, pull out the old diaphragm and put in the new one. About a 10-minutes process max on each speaker. If you think your speakers sing now, you're in for a real treat. I'm picking a pair of Forte II's on Monday. What do you replace the tweeter diaphragm with? Just a new one or is there a mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sberger Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 While I'm pretty certain I'm going to do the crossover replacement, I must say that doing a little work to get the speakers placed right has paid huge huge dividends. No more murkiness,just strong bass, great clarity, and a huge, wonderful soundtage. I pulled the speakers out about 5 or so feet from the back wall(as far as I could) and now I have terrific sound, and instruments and vocals floating above and to the sides of each speaker. While I don't doubt the improvement that can be had from crossover replacement, I must say I'm not as anxious about it any longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk49 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Sit back and enjoy them for a while. You will get the itch soon enough. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sberger Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 I got the itch now. But I'm loving what I hear more than I have since I got them. How come you guys don't talk about the specifics of placement more?[:^)] Anyways, thanks for all the help from those that have contributed to this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Benson Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Can you do this work (a capacitor upgrade, or network replacement [i'm not sure what that is, actually]) yourself, or can you put me onto someone who can do that kind of work? Thanks for any leads you can toss out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Benson Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Where do U buy the new crossover from? Are there certain ones that are better than others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sberger Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 Where do U buy the new crossover from? Are there certain ones that are better than others? John, from earlier in the thread: Even if you are not a big DYI person (which I am most definitely NOT) you should consider replacing the X-over and possibly the diaphragm for the tweeters. I did both and the results were impressive and easily heard. There are two guys that I know who do the X-over -- Bob Crites and Chris Munson a.k.a. Popbumper, who answered an earlier post on this thread. With the X-over, you just pull out the passive radiator on the rear of the speaker to create a space to make your connections. Then you pull off the speaker connection cap, snip the wires on the old X-over, which is affixed to the rear of the cap (after making sure you know where the wires are connected), connect the new X-over and voila! As for the diaphragm, it is even simpler: you just remove some screws, pull out the old diaphragm and put in the new one. About a 10-minutes process max on each speaker. If you think your speakers sing now, you're in for a real treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Benson Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 ThankThanks much for the reply and info. All the best, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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