Kain Posted January 15, 2002 Share Posted January 15, 2002 Well? How does it compare to the Denon AVR-4802 and Yamaha RX-V3200? ------------------ Home Theater: Display: Sony VPL-VW11HT LCD Projector Receiver: Denon AVC-A11SR (230V version of Denon AVR-4802) DVD Player: Sony DVP-S9000ES Center: Klipsch RC-7 Mains: Klipsch RF-7s Surrounds: Klipsch RS-7s Subwoofer: SVS CS-Ultra w/Samson S1000 amplifier This message has been edited by KAiN64 on 01-15-2002 at 01:50 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montigue Posted January 15, 2002 Share Posted January 15, 2002 Kain64, I havent been able to demo that paticular model with any Kipsch speakers but I can tell you from a devoted HK fan that Harman Kardon's widely acclaimed High Current Capabability and Ultrawide Bandwidth design provides high current power amplification. The sound you hear over the other models is a more richer, fuller sound. Because HK offers High Instantaneous Current Capability (HCC)w/ ±45 or more Amps (some of there amps have a HCC of ±100 Amps) makes the BIG difference. It really makes a difference when listening to music at loud levels. I can crank my AVR 65 over 3/4 of the way to max level and still have abseloutly no distortion! They are very clean and very powerfull with half the wattage of other brands like yamaha and Denon. Most people are turned off when they see the wattage output on most of the amps specs. But this is just lack of knoweledge.... Hope this information was usefull to you. Regards Monty R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eq_shadimar Posted January 15, 2002 Share Posted January 15, 2002 Kain64 - Humm well this may not be so helpful but I thought I would pipe in anyway. I have the HK510 that I am using with my Cornwalls. I love the sound! The HK8000 has more features and more watts so I would think that it would sound awesome as well. I have not heard the other brands on Klipsch speakers so I cannot comment on them. Additionally I have set up several systems for my friends and the HK has much more flexibility than other brands. Laters, ------------------ ...wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world... My Home Theater Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted January 15, 2002 Share Posted January 15, 2002 looking at the newer HK one feature that jumped out to me was the use of 2 seperate power supplies, 1 for front & 1 for surrounds/rears. seems like a nice deal at least in theory. & high current is the key, specially for big woof speaks. like i've said a good way to guage that at least on paper is to compare the amp output in wattage at 8 ohms imped vs that in 4 ohms imped. of course assuming similar measuring methods are used (sometimes hard to come by). not saying that the 4802 does not have high current 2. ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted January 16, 2002 Author Share Posted January 16, 2002 Thanks for the replies. It seems like a nice receiver and an alternative to the Denon and Yamaha, right? Secondly, how does the Harman Kardon AVR 8000 compare to the Marantz SR9200? Also, on the Harman Kardon website, it says 110-watt x 5. Does this mean the AVR 8000 only supports 5 speakers? And if I want 7.1 sound I need a seperate amp? ------------------ Home Theater: Display: Sony VPL-VW11HT LCD Projector Receiver: Denon AVC-A11SR (230V version of Denon AVR-4802) DVD Player: Sony DVP-S9000ES Center: Klipsch RC-7 Mains: Klipsch RF-7s Surrounds: Klipsch RS-7s Subwoofer: SVS CS-Ultra w/Samson S1000 amplifier This message has been edited by KAiN64 on 01-16-2002 at 01:51 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eq_shadimar Posted January 16, 2002 Share Posted January 16, 2002 quote: Originally posted by KAiN64: Also, on the Harman Kardon website, it says 110-watt x 5. Does this mean the AVR 8000 only supports 5 speakers? And if I want 7.1 sound I need a seperate amp? Yes. All of the Harman Kardon 7.1 systems require a seperate amp for the rear surrounds. HK's statement is that they couldn't get 7 channels of amplification into a single case that passed their standards and still keep the receivers a reasonable size and weight. So instead of reducing the overall quality of the amplification they opted for the seperate amplification option. Laters, ------------------ ...wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world... My Home Theater Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted January 16, 2002 Author Share Posted January 16, 2002 Thanks. What about the Marantz SD9200? Does it also need a seperate amp for 7.1 or 6.1? Secondly, does the Harman Kardon AVR 8000 have all the "decoders" of the Denon AVR-4802? Meaning does it have all the different kinds of DTS, Dolby Digital, and THX? ------------------ Home Theater: Display: Sony VPL-VW11HT LCD Projector Receiver: Denon AVC-A11SR (230V version of Denon AVR-4802) DVD Player: Sony DVP-S9000ES Center: Klipsch RC-7 Mains: Klipsch RF-7s Surrounds: Klipsch RS-7s Subwoofer: SVS CS-Ultra w/Samson S1000 amplifier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montigue Posted January 16, 2002 Share Posted January 16, 2002 Hey Kain64, I cant offer any information on the specifis, but I just wanted to say that the Marantz is also a very good choice. It runs high current amplification as well and sounds very smooth.... two excellent choices. Regards Monty R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted January 16, 2002 Share Posted January 16, 2002 the newer marantz offer 6 amp channels, except i believe the 9200 has 7 amp channels, maybe the 8200 too. 4802 has 7 amp channels. & all these have thx/ dolby digital EX tech. if u check the marantz or denon sites they are more clear in how many amp channels each model has. ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted January 16, 2002 Author Share Posted January 16, 2002 quote: Originally posted by eq_shadimar: Yes. All of the Harman Kardon 7.1 systems require a seperate amp for the rear surrounds. HK's statement is that they couldn't get 7 channels of amplification into a single case that passed their standards and still keep the receivers a reasonable size and weight. So instead of reducing the overall quality of the amplification they opted for the seperate amplification option. Laters, Really? Wow, does that mean their receivers are of excellent quality? ------------------ Home Theater: Display: Sony VPL-VW11HT LCD Projector Receiver: Denon AVC-A11SR (230V version of Denon AVR-4802) DVD Player: Sony DVP-S9000ES Center: Klipsch RC-7 Mains: Klipsch RF-7s Surrounds: Klipsch RS-7s Subwoofer: SVS CS-Ultra w/Samson S1000 amplifier This message has been edited by KAiN64 on 01-16-2002 at 01:57 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnumMan Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 Harman Kardon has always been top notch in my book! The new 8000 has got the THX certification,so that says alot. If I'm correct,they haven't had any certified since the AVR 80 several years ago. And that is a hell of a receiver! ------------------ Jerry CP RULZ ------------ Mains: KG 5.5 Rears: KG 3.5 Center: KLF-C7 Receiver: HK AVR-80 DD Processor: HK ADP-303 DTS Processor: Rotel RDA 985 AudioControl Phase Coupled Activator Series Three DVD: Toshiba 4109X Laserdisc: Yamaha CDV-W901 5 CH Amp(for subs): Rotel RB-985 Single Cass Deck: HK TD-420 Dual Cass Deck: HK DC-520 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted January 17, 2002 Author Share Posted January 17, 2002 Do you expect the Harman Kardon AVR 8000 to sound as good as the Denon AVR-4802? ------------------ Home Theater: Display: Sony VPL-VW11HT LCD Projector Receiver: Harman Kardon AVR 8000 DVD Player: Sony DVP-S9000ES Center: Klipsch RC-7 Mains: Klipsch RF-7s Surrounds: Klipsch RS-7s Subwoofer: SVS CS-Ultra w/Samson S1000 amplifier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted January 17, 2002 Author Share Posted January 17, 2002 One more thing, when I run a DVD or something, the Harman Kardon AVR 8000 will automatically detect whether it is Dolby Digital or DTS, right? ------------------ Home Theater: Display: Sony VPL-VW11HT LCD Projector Receiver: Harman Kardon AVR 8000 DVD Player: Sony DVP-S9000ES Center: Klipsch RC-7 Mains: Klipsch RF-7s Surrounds: Klipsch RS-7s Subwoofer: SVS CS-Ultra w/Samson S1000 amplifier This message has been edited by KAiN64 on 01-17-2002 at 04:36 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted January 18, 2002 Author Share Posted January 18, 2002 Bump! ------------------ Home Theater: Display: Sony VPL-VW11HT LCD Projector Receiver: Harman Kardon AVR 8000 DVD Player: Sony DVP-S9000ES Center: Klipsch RC-7 Mains: Klipsch RF-7s Surrounds: Klipsch RS-7s Subwoofer: SVS CS-Ultra w/Samson S1000 amplifier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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