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On 12/12/2016 at 4:52 AM, Chris A said:
If you read that Wikipedia article, you'll see that some people do just that. Those 30-50 year-old JBL monitors still command top dollar from collectors (mostly in Asia). LS3/5A monitors from the BBC are also in some demand, exceeding the resale price of other loudspeakers of like configuration in resale value. Genelec monitors aren't inexpensive, etc. Some of this is pedigree and some performance as Neil so kindly pointed out.
Like I said, to be called a "hi-fi studio monitor" implies something more than just flat FR on-axis. There is more going on but there is also what I'd call the "modulation distortion deniers" that ignore the effects of flattened out performance at higher SPL. Direct radiating studio monitors will exhibit the same effects of modulation distortion at higher SPL as any other direct radiating loudspeaker. Horn-loaded loudspeakers will simply walk all over the direct radiating loudspeakers at higher SPL--and you see those differences in the choices that the different studios make in their studio monitor loudspeakers--with some choosing large horn-loaded high frequency drivers and large direct-radiating woofers (usually more than one woofer per loudspeaker). Some of what you read in the Wikipedia article is not exactly accurate, particularly the comments about all studio monitors' abilities to reproduce dynamics.
This is from that same Wikipedia article that you linked above:
Yes, but some of this is due to the clique behavior of the mixing/mastering community--which clearly has led them astray in terms of their departures over time from hi-fi monitoring like the use of near-field monitoring such as the NS-10 (and the Auratone that Neil mentioned above) and the current state of "loudness war" pop music of many genres championed by those that hawk and defend the practices of "throwaway music".
PWK set the course of his company early on and while he had ample opportunity to chase the studio monitor marketplace, he clearly chose not to go into that cliquish market since his views on loudspeaker reproduction diverged so sharply with that professional community segment. The company has since chosen to not pursue that business segment (studio monitors) for their own reasons but I'd guess that it's that same "clique" behavior by the recorded music production community that keeps trying to pull away from hi-fi practices in the name of commercialization.
Chris
Is it true ( in days of old ) that engineers used 6x9 ovals as monitors? That way they could mix music to sound best in cars?
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45 minutes ago, jimjimbo said:
Uh, no.
"Uh. no' applies to my wife. 100db peaks are loud enough for me most of the time.
But at that volume my wife still gives me the old "thumbs up sign" meaning TURN IT UP.....
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On 7/21/2012 at 3:38 AM, Frank1938 said:
I just completed the finish of a style D Cornscala that Bob Crites designed for me. The top contains the Faital Pro LTH142 Tractix Horn with the Faital Pro HF 140 Driver. The bass cabinet contains the CW1526CF woofer. He designed the crossover network to cross at 700 hz. They are great sounding speakers mated with the McIntosh 225. Bench test of the 225 shows output at 32 wpc. I think it is an excellent two-channel system. Thanks, Bob, for all of your suggestions and help. Picture is attached. I hope?
Frank
Very nice job...
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On 11/29/2016 at 2:00 PM, ddalski said:
Selling my Klipsch TSCM Speakers. Theses are commercial versions of the Klipschorn that do not require to be placed in corners and also have dual tweeters and three midrange drivers. They are located in the North Texas / Dallas area. Asking $2,000. I will post pictures later.
Post Pic's!
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1 hour ago, WMcD said:
There is a discussion going on using a less sensitive tweeter in a CW and what if anything can be done.
For the sake of technical info, I point out one of the patents on the Valerie - LB speaker.
By way of background. It appears that Klipsch submitted a single patent application on the structure of the system and the crossover. But the USPTO considered these to be two distinct subjects and required a "division." In a case like this the inventor does not lose rights by putting too much in one application, he just has to pursue two distinct inventions.
However, the patent issued in the "specification" is based on the application, we get two patent documents which are similar except for the title and the claim structure.
Here, we have a patent on the crossover as a division of the application. There is another on the horn structure.
We see that the midrange circuit is such that there is some peaking of the output at the edges of the bandpass. Yeah, this is possible.
More to the point is that an autotransformer (step up configuration) is used to increase the drive to the tweeter (probably a K-77) which is less sensitive than the other horns. This is the opposite way of what we typically see that an autotransformer is used to step down voltage.
WMcD
Good stuff.
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28 minutes ago, CECAA850 said:
That was way too cool. The planning must have taken forever. I appreciate the link.
Check out the OK GO for "Upside Down"...... Sorry no link.
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On 11/16/2016 at 0:36 PM, JRH said:
Heresy 8" woofer and LB-76.
Was the LB-76 ever in production?
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On 11/19/2016 at 2:01 PM, Chief bonehead said:
You are not rude. Just wrong. 96 dB under what conditions? Full space? Half space? Closet space? AES? Pink noise? Playing a Madonna tune? Marketing or not, to infer that we are lying gets both barrels from me. Paul was around for most of the definitions of words and techniques. And he taught us well. So before you get on your high horse, make sure he has shoes.
Understand that Roy's favorite cut is "Pink Noise"....... smile....
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On 11/18/2016 at 4:01 PM, ATLAudio said:
I just assume that everything that isn't Heritage line is -6 dB for comparison purposes.
Big smile!! Not that I agree or disagree but too funny.
Just know that the present Klipsch Pro lines are just devastating in the home environment.
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21 hours ago, jimjimbo said:
2-channel snob, hunh? EVERY setup could use a sub, really Dave? For critical listening? I think as has been probably said a million times, it seems very dependent on the music choice, amps, speakers, source, room config, etc, etc, etc. IMHO, in many instances, a sub can blur and muddy what is intended to be a clear, tight bass line, actually hurting the critical listening experience. But then, that's just me. And I like to talk in circles....
Too funny. Every time I listen to them I smile. Must be the best book shelf speaker ever made.
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Just now, IB Slammin said:
Is that a 7T pre?
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18 hours ago, jwgorman said:
The culprits...
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On 10/29/2016 at 8:13 PM, sunnysal said:
hopefully robo nerd will take a powder or at least learn some online etiquette. calling bullshit on basic electronic principals is plain stupid. he may claim that the losses are not significant or audible in his opinion but not call bullshit. I have noticed the site degrading over time as most everything becomes a quick tempered, almost religiously charged atmosphere. glad to see that the old timers stick around to post even in this environment. T
Tony,
You are old and cranky. smile
You still running that beautiful 7-T ?
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4 hours ago, djk said:
"Troll. "
Hmm, your probably right.
A dB or so loss generally gets the flea-power crowd excited (easy to see why).
That's too funny and oh so true.
I once listened to a Jub/K402 set up. Beautiful hand built flea-power amps. Monster power supply, just killer. Passive networks with built in E/Q for the horns. Top of the line caps and inductors $$$
The LF got a bit "floppy" at volume with hard music. Insertion loss plus lack of headroom = Floppy LF.
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On 10/22/2016 at 9:12 AM, The Dude said:
He should share those dual 12 tractrix straight horns.
I am really looking forward to this kit.I was fortune to listen to those dual 12" tractrix horns. Made me a believer in straight horns. In your face IMPACT.
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Refreshing to know that he has propagated the species............
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Refused again.
Too sad....His entire life is ahead of him.
He was one of the good guys. ?
Once again he will miss the family reunion.
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Too funny but great at the time. College days......Bastard Khorns flank, 2 LaS center, 2 LaS rear. 7T preamp, two Crown DC 300 power, Empire Trubador / B&O cart.
And Dyna "quad adeptor " Big time in the early 70's
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On 10/8/2016 at 9:56 AM, USNRET said:
Mom, is that you?
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12 minutes ago, derrickdj1 said:
There are a lot of tubes to choose from and some are cheap and others, expensive. Is it worth the extra bucks and can you really hear much of a difference. A good example is: EL Black Sable for $89 vs Tug-Sol $22. There are even some very expensive tubes for over $200-400. I have also heard if the amp is not vintage, just use a modern tube made today instead of a NOS tube. Well, let's hear your thoughts.
I run only two expensive tubes. (NOS/NIB) They are worth every dime. Could it be that premium tubes are more important in the front end than in a power amp???
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Good prices ........
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16 hours ago, Marvel said:
I take a multivitamin, two glucosamine capsule (for joints), a high number of saw palmetto extract, and a fish oil capsule. Seems to work for me... While organics and such are still chemicals, I don't take and prescriptions or other OTC drugs daily, like NSAIDS... No statins, etc..., and I am 67.
Bruce
Well it's different day to day. It all depends on what's on the street......
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Difference between loudspeaker and monitor
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I always believed that to be a reason why some LP's sounded so bad on a good system.