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Congrats, The Cornwall was my dream speaker in highschool,then when I got out of the Navy in 85' they didnt make them anymore.Dont think ebay existed at the time to get used and no local.So I was stuck buying LaScala's and have been stuck ever since!!!Gotta have a sub though...lol,kind of the other extreme. Hey enjoy and dream of all those MODS you can do to them! Greg

Soundbroker, Thankyou for a very informative post.I had a pair of 7B's in another system that REALLY reqired the power to bring the speakers to life.I actually powered my LaScala's with them for a few months.Way overkill oviously and I know what they can do.Sold them to fund my transition to tubes and have never looked back until I got this crazy idea of a dedicated sub system to pair with my Scala's and tubes.The 4B does very good about 98% of the time but....you know what I'm talkin about,never enough! I have not been on the forum much lately due to my other addiction called a Harley Davidson.Well I go to the sub forum today and theres 4 damn pages...WTH.I was hoping this thread would just dissapear...felt like an idiot.But the info contained in this thread far outweigh's that.Thankyou all. Greg Note:I will probably get another 4B and understand the damping is halved in mono operation but think it can be overrated sometimes....here we go another debate LOL.Check out this link on the very subject and post away!!!! http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/audioprinciples/amplifiers/dampingfactor.php might as well continue the thread

I think the guy is a TRUE flake! something is wrong here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe he is just afraid to unhook them from his system out of fear!! anything could be possible with this FLAKE!!!! Greg

OK,I can say I am doing this and I have no instruments just my ear.I greatly respect PWK but what I am hearing is better and I cant go back to passives.I believe Shawn has had good success with active crossovers also...I am sure there are more here that have as well. The Doc wrote: As far as more gear is concerned, by going to an active crossover you are running the same amount of gear. You have source>preamp>crossover>amp>speaker instead of source>preamp>amp>crossover>speaker. There are certain advantages to having the speaker directly coupled to the ampifier: less power compression, more efficient, better damping, no back-emf, etc etc.... The fact that you have more amplifiers doesn't matter because there is only ever one amplifier between your ears and the source for a given passband. I was concerned with this issue as well but realized that I was just replacing my passive x-over with an active and in my case no more interconnects because I have a preamp section in my CDP.The benifits of dividing signals before the amps are well documented and repeated by the Doc above.Furthermore I have no passives to rob power from my horns(when your working with 2 or 4 watts why not maximize what you have).I use SS amps for the power consuming lows. Doc also wrote: As far as 'more wires and more noise' - I don't think another foot here or there is going to matter when your signal has already passed through a thousand feet in the studio. And if there is noise in an active setup, then there should be noise in the passive setup as well. Noise is an indication of a poor power source anyway and is a good sign that it needs to be cleaned up - which will result in an even smoother sound. Ground loops are a sign of poor grounding, which means there is a safety hazard - not a huge deal I don't think, but a ground loop indicates that the 3rd prong is pretty much useless in the event of large voltages. No problem here,this is the quietest system I have owned due in part to the pro balanced configuration of everything but my tube amps. Doc wrote: And I believe a layperson should have no trouble dialing in an active crossover system without measuring equipment....maybe an SPL meter if they don't trust their ears. You should get very good results by mimicking the original passive crossover - and I would argue even optimum results that way. And you can just measure the time-delay requirements in feet: ~1ms per foot. It certainly isn't rocket science and I'm sure the layperson would enjoy learning along the way. I have no instruments but my ears and was able to dial things in.I feel that you need as much level control as possible.In my case my pro SS amps have input level controls along with the various level controls on my Rane active x-over.Oh I chased my tail for awhile...lol.The best advise I could give in this aspect would be to make small adjustments and listen for awhile.DONT try to voice the system with a few favorite recordings.Listen to as many as possible and get a feeling for what the sound is doing then make small adjustments. Note:After a few weeks of dialing it in I had a friend over who has heard the system many times.His comments were this: within 5 min he said"I cant believe how well balanced this sounds"5 min later his comment was "I cant hear the speakers,they disappeared,the sound isnt coming from the speakers",he is not an audiophile and I doubt if he has ever heard the term disappeared! but he said it.He was astounded by my tube amps and what they do for horns and is equally impressed with my biamp rig. I think if you choose this path you will be rewarded with great sound. Greg

Michael, What do you think of this idea If the slow boat to China doesnt work out,then I might just start cuttin' to fit the Altecs and stack everything on top of the bass bins I got from you AND use my integrator from my BagEnd system to boost that roll off of them bins.They would see a 12db per octive gain starting at 70 hz and below!!!!Can those pro woofs handle that,the bins are a sealed enclosure with that type of roll off or does the horn configuration change all that? Just an idea. Greg

I have this site saved in favorites,great DIY ideas there and many more pics to look at! Greg

Colin, What size is it? Greg Edit:Nevermind,I see the spec at the bottom by the price.

Looking forward to the pics. Greg

I believe you dog is chillin' with the new setup lol. any advise on getting a set of Scala's to China? Greg BTW great pics!

Yes,lol Greg

Charlie, I know you are,just say when! Greg

Don't you wonder deep down why a guy would go to all the expense to ship in used speakers, instead of buying new, to China, without seeing, or hearing them? LOL,yes I see potential RED flags everywhere.I agree it makes little sense. Greg

Thats an interesting idea. Greg

Cant get any bites locally.I had them sold to my step brother but he decided to get a 50 cal.Marine sniper rifle.If WWlll ever starts I know who I will be with,he cant fire 20+ serious pieces of hardware all at the same time.Guess no one wants to pay $1400 for a near perfect set of Scala's.The potential sale is thru an ad I ran at Audiokarma. Greg

Great advise guys. A little update here.I have researched the guys feedback and have corresponded with a few of them thru the Audiogon site.One reply was that he sent the guy a pair of Von Schweikert speakers with no problems,another replyed that he would do buisness with him again. The potential buyer wants to send me the money via paypal when we determine a final cost In my mind I would immediately transfer the funds to my bank and ship after I see the money.I have a local shipper that is an agent for BAX shipping.I will get more info from him on Monday. Unless the potential buyer is maskeradeing as several people across secure websites ho looks to be for real.He says he will deal with the logistics of this and only wants me to get info on local shippers.Looks like he has expierience with shipping to China with all the purchases he made on audiogon. Thanks for all the input,Greg

speak wrote: I am gearing up to get back into tubes. thanks for any leads. check out Marchand,they make tube x-overs and sound very good I hear(active).He can supply you with a kit of any configureation. http://www.marchandelec.com/ been looking at thier tube x-over for awhile now.Just a matter of time. Greg

I understand the part about cash in hand!!!Thanks I have to figure out the logistics and that was where I was at a loss.Thanks to you guys I have an idea where to start IF it gets started. Too bad he couldnt drive halfway like Michael did on the bass bins!Would that mean we would end up in HawaiiLOLThanks Michael. Great info that has made me think,more is welcome! Greg

I will check into that with him,guess I ask him to specify an agent or recommend one and go from there. Thanks,Greg

not only get the money up front, be very wary of money orders, they can be forged and you will be stuck. A wire may be a good idea, but you will have to give bank info. Paypal is also tough as if teh buyer says that they did not receive the speakers, you wil be charged. Be very careful here. Chris Very good info,something I did not think of AND will be aware of.The buyer has refered me to his feedback on Audiogon.Looks ok but anything can be forged. http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fb.pl?user=Lindseyf&&&& what do you guys think? Greg Edit:didnt know that once the money was in the paypal account I could forfiet if buyer said he didnt recieve them!

They wont ship without the money in my paypal account. Thankyou,Greg

And what makes you think they have family members in California? I assume you are referring to the San Francisco area? Mike The buyer specificly asked if I would deliver to a local logistics company,no mention of family. Greg

Thankyou, Now were getting somewhere,good info,I have a place to start now.Any more ideas are welcome! Greg

OK guys,this is a good one. I think I have my Klipsch LaScala's sold to a guy in CHINA,yes I know...wow buku shipping costs. My mission is to get them there UNDAMAGED! These are my babys and I want them to arrive safe and sound.I am not sure how to proceed here.I know I will not package them myself,and need a professional shipper. I want to make sure they do it right and will probably try to supervise the actual packaging,if they let me,at least I want to know how they are gonna do it!. Any suggestions are welcome....HELP!!!! Greg

Charlie, Love that antique TT,bet you had to fight a mob to get it! Greg

LOL.that is true! Greg