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  1. 28 minutes ago, 001 said:

    I would recommend to buy a used pair of klipsch LS II  around 4k$   , The LS II  is a serious Speaker  ,   or older Khorns , or even used CW IV

     

     I see it differently.

    EvCo built a pair of speakers (a proven model that I am sure will sound great). He spent about half of what you are suggesting. From that he will have years of enjoyment and the pride that comes from accomplishing the project himself. EvCo is to be congratulated and I hope his build will inspire others. 

    -Tom

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  2. FFBman: That is good news on finding a quiet amp for the Jubilees. It is not always an easy thing to do. I went in circles trying to find a  low-noise amplifier for my Klipschorns many years ago.  

     

    Do you find the minDSP to have any hiss, buzzing or noise? They certainly have a number of attractive features. 

     

    Good luck,

    -Tom

  3. Perhaps we should step back for a minute. 

     

    Originally, I posted this review so folks could enjoy and consider what was said about one of the new Klipsch offerings.

     

    Then what happened ....... folks have taken this thread as an opportunity to bicker and argue. 

     

    Is this what the internet has done to us .... simply given us another mechanism where we can argue and be negative toward on another? 

     

    What are you guys truly interested in? It's rhetorical question so please don't bother to respond.

    -Tom

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  4. It is a New Year ...... Have any of the new Jubilees actually arrived?

     

    I mean ...... delivered, in your house, set up, and playing music. 

    Many of us would love to see photos on how you shoe-horned them into your living space. The more photos, the better. 

     

    If they have not yet arrived, then wait before responding since none of us want to hear about delays, promises, excuses, and supply chain problems. 

     

    Looking forward to the photos (Jubilees and smiling faces). 

     

    -Tom

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  5. On 12/18/2021 at 6:03 PM, Itsme1979 said:

    I had recently purchased a storage unit in town..

    After goin through it I had come across a pair of nib cwo's.

    I had only removed from box just for verification of the contents..

    They are absolutely pristine from 1977....

    I had seen an auction for used ones from 1980 rated 8 out of 10 sold for $3k..

    Does anyone have an idea what these mite b worth..???

    Any help would be greatly appreciated..tia

    Marc

     

    I have photos upon request..

    I tried inserting them said file was to large

    I have no doubt that the cabinets are in great condition. However, I am old-fashioned and "NIB" means New in Box. It is hard to imagine that cabinets that are about 44 years old can be called "NIB". It is just not realistic. In either case, enjoy them.

  6. 25 minutes ago, Thaddeus Smith said:

    Same. And the software to manage it over the network is compatible with windows 10+. I paid just over double that listing price and felt like I got a great deal then.

    When you set up the network connection, was it quick and simple or a series of headaches?

     

  7. BTW, The issue of whether to go for DSP (and bi-amping, room correction etc) is a worthy topic but substantially different than the current discussion on modifying some of the standard analog Klipsch crossovers. 

     

    Perhaps a new thread is in order or reviving some of the previous threads that were more on-topic. There is already a ton of good information that has been posted. Chris was a frequent contributor and did a good job in laying out the major issues. 

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  8. 4 minutes ago, geoff. said:

    @Dave MacKay, one thing I have seen many users comment on in this forum is that the cheaper ones often fall short of expectations.

     

    Which stands to reason.

     

    From what I have read the Xilica XP-4080 is the end game here. I think it is what is used in the latest Jubilee.

    There is no doubt that the Xilica XP is a good unit (although it does not have digital inputs, which some of us prefer). What is not being mentioned is the "cost to play". The Xilica unit does not come on the used market very often and the new ones cost close to a thousand. 

     

    There are options and much of it depends on your signal chain (is the attenuation before or after the DSP box, are you using vinyl, and will you be feeding the box a digital signal ....).

     

    Good luck,

    -Tom 

  9. It easy to spend thousands. 

    It is perplexing since it is an investment and some individuals don't like the outcome. 

     

    My suggestion is to buy something inexpensive and try it out. If it is a failure, then you can sell the box and recoup some of your money. For instance you can buy a Behringer DCX 2496 (new about $350 and used about $250). If you were in the US, I could sell you a NIB unit for a decent price. The DCX is not the last word in quality, but it is quite affordable and certainly more than enough to get your feet wet. There are other alternatives including the MiniDSP (although they do not have digital inputs).

    Good luck,

    -Tom

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  10. I will continue to be candid .....

    Plugging the ports will certainly change the deep bass. I can't imagine that it would improve the deep bass.

     

    Continuing to be candid ......

    I think of much of what you are seeking has little to do with electronics. Unless you are comparing across units that include some real dogs.

     

    I believe what you are seeking (with these speakers) is mostly governed by room geometry  and room placement. The good news is that after some false starts, you have now stumbled upon a better strategy.

     

    Good luck,

    -Tom

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  11. You are not understanding things. 

     

    The low pass on the woofer is first order (as you have identified). This was true for both the Type A and the Type AA. The difference was in the high pass on the tweeter. The Type A was 1st order and the Type AA was 3rd order. This was done (along with the front-to-back diodes) in order to protect the tweeter (limit the voltage). 

     

    I think we are on the same page, but I did not want others to be confused.

  12. 1 hour ago, henry4841 said:

    Would be close enough in my world. AA's are 1st order crossovers where values are not that critical. I noticed that CBHeart wants your old square caps. ..........

    You do realize that AA crossovers are NOT 1st order (the Type A were however). Maybe this was a typo. The tweeter filter is 3rd order. I hope no one gets confused about this. However, I do agree that the filter on the tweeter may not be that critical since there is so little energy (from program material) up that high anyway. 

  13. Congratulations to Roy and the folks at Klipsch !

     

    The newest version of the Forte was listed as a finalist for both Stereophile's Speaker of the year and also as Editor's Choice for Component of the Year. 

     

    In looking at the reviews and the competitors' prices, It might make sense for Klipsch to raise their prices to something astronomical. 

     

    Congratulations to all ....

     

    -Tom

     

     

    https://www.stereophile.com/content/stereophiles-products-2021-component-year

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  14. The same hunches are bing re-hashed. 

     

    Important: this happened to both speakers not just one. Let's not get carried away by an improbable "coincidence"

    Important: The OP said the bass was lost to an extent "that they sounded like headphones". "Sounding like headphones" is a major (not minor) deficit. And with other speakers in the room "those sounded normal"

     

    Obviously two things would be helpful. ) First - an inspection of the wiring and a volt meter to check for a open circuit (crossover or blown woofer and by some weird coincidence it happened to both). Second - run some pure tones through the speaker (at least an octave or two below the crossover point).

     

    Those would be interesting results (and some have already mentioned these diagnostics).

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