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It sounds like this will give you about a 60 degree listening angle.
That will provide a nice stereophonic spread. The K-Horn is a very nice sounding speaker.
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1 hour ago, 001 said:
@Alfredo Prada the cost of materials and labor / at least 1k$ 20 -25 h for sure at $? per hour , plus extra $ to veneer the cabinets versus MDF or plywood , plus the Parts so closer to 4k$ -
Location , USA ? here is a pair of klipsch CW IV , 3 months old , cost 8414$ - selling price 4400$ modern drivers , horns , the latest technology in klipsch crossovers .
https://stlouis.craigslist.org/ele/d/union-klipsch-cornwall-4s-new/7437525535.html
I am not sure where your numbers are coming from, but I have no interest in debating them.
However maybe I can give some perspective.
In my youth, "car guys" when asked about their car (their pride and joy) would respond with the simple phrase "built not bought". It was said with pride. That sort of pride and passion still carries weight with a segment of the population.
I know I am a dinosaur, but until one can embrace notion of "built not bought", you will not understand why some head down that path.
Just my 2 cents,
-Tom
PS: I hope that Alfredo and others like him will pursue that passion.
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28 minutes ago, 001 said:
I would recommend to buy a used pair of klipsch LS II around 4k$ , The LS II is a serious Speaker , or older Khorns , or even used CW IV
I see it differently.
EvCo built a pair of speakers (a proven model that I am sure will sound great). He spent about half of what you are suggesting. From that he will have years of enjoyment and the pride that comes from accomplishing the project himself. EvCo is to be congratulated and I hope his build will inspire others.
-Tom
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FFBman: That is good news on finding a quiet amp for the Jubilees. It is not always an easy thing to do. I went in circles trying to find a low-noise amplifier for my Klipschorns many years ago.
Do you find the minDSP to have any hiss, buzzing or noise? They certainly have a number of attractive features.
Good luck,
-Tom
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Perhaps we should step back for a minute.
Originally, I posted this review so folks could enjoy and consider what was said about one of the new Klipsch offerings.
Then what happened ....... folks have taken this thread as an opportunity to bicker and argue.
Is this what the internet has done to us .... simply given us another mechanism where we can argue and be negative toward on another?
What are you guys truly interested in? It's rhetorical question so please don't bother to respond.
-Tom
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Cornwall IV review from "Enjoy the Music"
This is fairly recent and I don't believe it has been posted before on the Klipsch Forum.
The review is positive, however there is some conjecture (on "why" it sounds the way it does) that seems faulty (IMHO).
-Tom
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Travis, This rollout has been going on forever. They need to be in living rooms across America.
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It is a New Year ...... Have any of the new Jubilees actually arrived?
I mean ...... delivered, in your house, set up, and playing music.
Many of us would love to see photos on how you shoe-horned them into your living space. The more photos, the better.
If they have not yet arrived, then wait before responding since none of us want to hear about delays, promises, excuses, and supply chain problems.
Looking forward to the photos (Jubilees and smiling faces).
-Tom
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On 12/18/2021 at 6:03 PM, Itsme1979 said:
I had recently purchased a storage unit in town..
After goin through it I had come across a pair of nib cwo's.
I had only removed from box just for verification of the contents..
They are absolutely pristine from 1977....
I had seen an auction for used ones from 1980 rated 8 out of 10 sold for $3k..
Does anyone have an idea what these mite b worth..???
Any help would be greatly appreciated..tia
Marc
I have photos upon request..
I tried inserting them said file was to large
I have no doubt that the cabinets are in great condition. However, I am old-fashioned and "NIB" means New in Box. It is hard to imagine that cabinets that are about 44 years old can be called "NIB". It is just not realistic. In either case, enjoy them.
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Forty years old and never used ...... why, that really is remarkable.
Maybe he could also sell me the Brooklyn Bridge.
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25 minutes ago, Thaddeus Smith said:
Same. And the software to manage it over the network is compatible with windows 10+. I paid just over double that listing price and felt like I got a great deal then.
When you set up the network connection, was it quick and simple or a series of headaches?
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This DSP crossover is a good one.
2 in and 6 out (input is either digital or analog). This is what I have been using for several years.
The prices for new units are outrageous and the used ones do not come up very often. So this is a catch !
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324953288579?hash=item4ba8b9af83:g:lQ0AAOSw69ZhweXX
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It is curious ... the cabinet is only about 3 feet tall.
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BTW, The issue of whether to go for DSP (and bi-amping, room correction etc) is a worthy topic but substantially different than the current discussion on modifying some of the standard analog Klipsch crossovers.
Perhaps a new thread is in order or reviving some of the previous threads that were more on-topic. There is already a ton of good information that has been posted. Chris was a frequent contributor and did a good job in laying out the major issues.
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4 minutes ago, geoff. said:
@Dave MacKay, one thing I have seen many users comment on in this forum is that the cheaper ones often fall short of expectations.
Which stands to reason.
From what I have read the Xilica XP-4080 is the end game here. I think it is what is used in the latest Jubilee.
There is no doubt that the Xilica XP is a good unit (although it does not have digital inputs, which some of us prefer). What is not being mentioned is the "cost to play". The Xilica unit does not come on the used market very often and the new ones cost close to a thousand.
There are options and much of it depends on your signal chain (is the attenuation before or after the DSP box, are you using vinyl, and will you be feeding the box a digital signal ....).
Good luck,
-Tom
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It easy to spend thousands.
It is perplexing since it is an investment and some individuals don't like the outcome.
My suggestion is to buy something inexpensive and try it out. If it is a failure, then you can sell the box and recoup some of your money. For instance you can buy a Behringer DCX 2496 (new about $350 and used about $250). If you were in the US, I could sell you a NIB unit for a decent price. The DCX is not the last word in quality, but it is quite affordable and certainly more than enough to get your feet wet. There are other alternatives including the MiniDSP (although they do not have digital inputs).
Good luck,
-Tom
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As stated above: First, listening for 6 months is a good idea
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I will continue to be candid .....
Plugging the ports will certainly change the deep bass. I can't imagine that it would improve the deep bass.
Continuing to be candid ......
I think of much of what you are seeking has little to do with electronics. Unless you are comparing across units that include some real dogs.
I believe what you are seeking (with these speakers) is mostly governed by room geometry and room placement. The good news is that after some false starts, you have now stumbled upon a better strategy.
Good luck,
-Tom
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Am I understanding you correctly that you blocked the port(s)?
I will be candid, if this was given to you as advice ..... then that advice is very suspect.
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1 hour ago, ClaudeJ1 said:
Needs more output channels.
This is a garage sale thread. Maybe we should not knock the product.
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1 hour ago, RandyH said:
Does anyone have pictures , or the specs sheet , or the Thiele TS parameters of the K-281 12” Fiber-composite cone woofer -
The woofer is used in the Forte III-Forte IV and the Klipsch Heritage Jubilee
Hey Guys, Why not focus this thread on congratulating Roy and the folks at Klipsch on the well-deserved recognition they are getting.
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Henry, we are on the same page (you may have missed my follow up post).
The thing that is interesting, given the efficiency of the driver and horn loading, is just how loud that must have been to blow tweeters using a Type A or a Type AA crossover. There must be many deaf users out there ....
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You are not understanding things.
The low pass on the woofer is first order (as you have identified). This was true for both the Type A and the Type AA. The difference was in the high pass on the tweeter. The Type A was 1st order and the Type AA was 3rd order. This was done (along with the front-to-back diodes) in order to protect the tweeter (limit the voltage).
I think we are on the same page, but I did not want others to be confused.
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1 hour ago, henry4841 said:
Would be close enough in my world. AA's are 1st order crossovers where values are not that critical. I noticed that CBHeart wants your old square caps. ..........
You do realize that AA crossovers are NOT 1st order (the Type A were however). Maybe this was a typo. The tweeter filter is 3rd order. I hope no one gets confused about this. However, I do agree that the filter on the tweeter may not be that critical since there is so little energy (from program material) up that high anyway.
LaScala for this room
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First order of business is to get the bass bin tight in a corner.
1) if the aim of the top hat is too forward (in front of the listener), that is actually okay (within reason). In fact this was a trick that PWK advocated in the Dope From Hope as a way of creating a larger or more stable sweet spot.
2) If you want to aim the top hat directly at the listener. It can be done with a slight amount of woodworking. Someone did this and documented the procedure about ten years ago. (Note: when I say ten it may have been closer to 15 - due to my aging brain). This modification has a tolerable but slightly odd look. Maybe someone else can remember who did this -it was one of the regulars. Part of this depends on whether you are getting a type C cabinet (no collar under the top hat) or a type B cabinet (collar and also a toe kick molding).
Good luck,
-Tom