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Hey, I don't have RS-7's (yet) but I do have mounted the synergy version, and I needed a ceiling mount that would hold all that weight and still be multi-directional (so I could point them down at the listening area) from the ceiling..so I used Omnimounts and the threaded insert in the back of my SS surrounds to mount the things from the ceiling...I think the RS's have the same insert? They look good, fit the threading exactly and are very sturdy, and not real (note- kind of ($25-40per mount I think)) pricey...just make sure you find out the thread twist from the Klipsch website or the documentation that came with the speakers, and the weight and compare your needs to the mounts available on www.omnimount.com...I went with the celing mount 20.0 (for speakers up to 20 lbs) and while I would have preferred to flush wall mount these things, it just wasn't possible, as my room is strange too. AND you can purchase them directly from various sources on the net! If you want picts I can get one for you! K

I got the room registered today, I will be there...So let's all check in who is going. This is first vote from DFW, where are the horn head groups. Bruce

Dean, Got your PM, thanks, and I responded, essentially stating, where do I send the cash! Still haven't gotten your e-mail, left another PM. I guess the option fo e-mail AND PM'ing doesn;t exist in these new forums? Bruce

Hey man! Sorry for this but...I apologize to all fo the other forum members... You and I just can't seem to communicate, I have sent you at least two PM's and several e-mails to the old e-mail addy that I had? Wanted to know if you are going to the Heritage meet in Hope, and if so, could you bring a pair of RF-7 crossovers, prepaid of course? Please please please PM me! K

Hey! That reminds me, did you notice the one scene with Jolie standing next to Farrell and actually <looking up> at <him>...I laughed out loud. Apparently, he is a pretty tiny little guy, and she is pretty tall...I just don't buy her looking up at him...then in the cut away, to make her look shorter, she is all slumped down against his shoulder...watch it, I thought it was pretty funny... K

Hmmm... I agree, I was disappointed. I think the one thing that killed the film outright was the attempt to show so much historical aside without concentrating more on the characters. Stone really thought is was necessary to narate all of the history surrounding the events through Aristotle and Ptolemy, but if you didn't know the history first, it was very very difficult to follow...then the bouncing around back and forth in time, 9 years ago, present, 10 years ago, present, child hood, present...it was disjoint and confusing. The battle scenes were confusing too, he heads off with the horses and tears ***, then doubles back and does what? Now I have read about the battles and they were really pretty brilliant, but all you get from this movie is that Alexander was just lucky...till he wasn't. And the homo-sexual relationship took up most of the time, because it might be sensational now, but was common place then... Overall, I was not impressed at all...and what was up with Jolie's accent...and everyone else having a Scottish/Irish accent??? Good grief, just pitiful. YMMV. K

Dean! I know it was meant to be humorous, but most of us know where you live. It doesn't surprise me at all, it is only by doing side by side comparisons that I have a clue that something might not be quite "right", otherwise I just chalk it up to the "sound" of that pair of speakers...and then toss in different source components and material and you will have a hell of a time getting it all straight... K

Thanks for the responses. Frz, I wanted a pair that was raw birch and the same year as my Cornwalls, I know that sounds stupid but I wanted to finish them to look just like my glowing gold Corns that I recently finished natural and waxed...my mistake...I won't do it again. It looks like these things were concert speakers they are so banged up...also, the coil glued onto the crossover had been jarred loose and was banging around, really good stuff...I am just making my self madder. But they play, and sound pretty damend good (after I replaced the tweeter diaphragm and re-hot-glued the coil on)...I really don;t want to put any cash into these things now to replace the mickey crossover... The picts were pretty detailed, and I asked for others...oh well. Dean, thanks for that information...the reason I really asked is I am pushing these with a backup Yamaha that has a switch on the back that says something to the effect, "Push switch to (A) position if you fronts are not less than 8 ohms, with surrounds not less than 8 ohms, and ( if your fronts are not less than 6 ohms with surrounds not less than 6 ohms"...something like that...while I don't really care that much for this amp, I don;t want to blow it up either...any chance of that? K

Hey, I had the unfortunate experience this weekend of getting suckered on an Ebay deal for a pair of Heresy II's, claimed in great shape, yeah, you know the deal... Now, AFTER I have replaced the blown tweeter, and realized the woofers are ten years NEWER than claimed (indicating to me on these "non-modified original speakers" that they have been pushed VERY hard)...also "minor scratches" have turned into several mashed corners down to the MDF, and veneer coming up in one corner...if I wasn't so mad at myself for beleiving the ad, I would be a lot angrier at the seller...Just goes to show, even a lot of questions still won't reveal the blatant lie, and I am pretty sure I am stuck with these. I noticed that the nominal impedance is 4 ohms? What is up with that? All of the II's I have seen have been 8, so my questions are obvious: what does this mean, why did they make them 4 ohm, how does it help/hurt sound...what is the effect on the amp pushing them? (And for those of you who will no doubt tell me to search the archives, I DID...and found nothing!) I planned on using these beat up things for rears, but my amp will have to be pushing out a lot more power to deal with that...right? What does this do to SPLs? K

Hey Art, The get together was a blast, I think the Dunlavy's were definitely the star of the show. Those Cary's are sweet, beautiful minimalist blocks...I have to say though that I have already been over to Dodd's site, looking for a pair of those amps. I have wanted to jump into tubes (having no previous experience with them at all), and I think those set the threshold for me, and I will have to compare everything I hear from now on to those amps. I enjoyed meeting all of the guys, putting a face on Seadog and Shadimar, and the jazzheads in room two were a hoot, I have a feeling that we could end up drinking way to much and playing that Dizzy disc at much too loud volumes, ears bleeding, whiskey flowing...we will need find a suitable setting for that, NOT your living room. I too wne thome and spent about three hours listening to my horns again, and I will keep my Corns and RF's for now, but I ahve to say that I think I have the itch to make one of those Raw Acoustic tower driver array kits...as Gary said, for the the price they had some great sound, would be an awesome project. Thanks again for the invite, and please lets us know here where the next speaker event (3 weeks from now ?), I would love to come if I may. Oh, and if any of the guys need some cash kicked in for shipping those speakers and components back, please let me know, I would be more than willing to kick in. Thanks again, Bruce

NICE! Coming from crossover guy...sheesh! K

Dean! Thanks for the information, I will go home and take 'em apart tonight. The problem is, many of these folks are buying "new" RF-7's that have been sitting for a long time due to stock/price/inventory issues at some dealers, so it is possible that we may have some of the newer models hanging around pretending to be "new", but they are really NOS. Hey I sent you an e-mail myself about building me some new crossovers adn bringing them to the Heritage gathering in AK? I will message you again. Thanks! K

Start a new thread on it, I am curious now too... K

I was just kidding Art, I really am looking forward to listening to the gear...I have nothing but respect for audio heads of all kinds...should be interesting! See you there. K

I tend to agree...I am going to have to get a much larger room, or a much sturdier house before I upgrade to an ultra. Playing the 75-85 decibel test tone from my pre into the sub damn near separates the drywall from the studs as it is, and I never (well hardly ever) listen to the system at volumes like that... Thanks for the information, I will do some reading on driver excursion, pretty inteesting stuff...so am I correct in saying that a stiffer driver (which will by construction travel less and require assumably more power to move), will be able to handle higher volumes? Isn't the trade off for higher volume less sensitivity and possible delay? Do they get around that by not making the cone material stiffer but the magnetic push pull more dynamic? Or am I just way off base here? K

Well I guess that is my point..So Velodyne plays flatter at higher SPL's...Wow, that would be like Texas stadium at half time levels... I just can't even imagine it for HT, really... K

OK, we need to start a new thread about the specifics, contact person, where there is a possible place to stay, where are we going to meet up and when, who to look for, itinerary, maybe swap cell phone numbers off forum, etc, yes? We are coming down to the wire, and need to gt the specifics nailed down...what is the name of the meeting place/restaurant/farmhouse? Numbers to the museums, Trey's number maybe (will you be wearing a big goofy Mickey hand or cheese hat or something, so we know who you are?) Specifics boys and girls, folks who enjoy horn-loaded speakers crave specifics! K

Maybe that is a good idea...I really want to hear those Gallos mated with the Cary...and I wouldn;t want to shame those folks with some crappy old low end, BEC crossover, rebuilt, raw birch Corns Might make someone cry. OK, then, lets hold off on bringing the guns to this one, eh Dog? We can stand back and be amazed at the **real** high end stuff... K

By db I am assuming that is the Plus driver? Crap, that review makes me think I should have held out for an Ultra...I love this 2039+ though boys. I can't really imagine something that **much** better. Anyone have one of these things, and has made a comparison? I love the tech talk, but I want a forum member to tell me what the difference is, if they can... Thanks for the replies! K p.s.: By the by, the picts from that other thread showed one of the new hand rubbed top-of-their-line box woofers, and they are HUGE, enormous things, simply dwarfed the TV in the picture...amazing (what would you something like for - low sound wave warfare?)

Recently, I came upon a thread in another, unnamed forum of a couple of guys who went to the SVS factory in Ohio, and took some pictures, what specifically stood out were the pictures fo the Plus and Ultra subwoofer drivers sitting next to each other...the Ultra is a monster in comparison... So my question is this, what is the real difference? If the two drivers sound at the same frequencies (depending on the tuning), and each are played at the same power level on the same equipment, will they sound different from each other? Or is the difference that the Ultra can handle higher db/wattage/amps/SPL for more sustained periods of time at higher rates than the Plus driver, or is it just about bottoming out? K

Hmmmm...You know what, since i didn't make the Hornhead get together, I might just bring them (if I can convince the wife to help me haul those heavy buggers from my upstairs office to my truck... I was listening to them last night, Dave Matthews Band, and it was something else, just makes me sit there with a big smile on my face (and they are positioned at a less then optimal 4 ft. from my head on each side...) Jeff, you bring the Heresys, and I will bring the CWII's?, what do you think? Bruce

Jeff! Yes, bring them, I would be interested in hearing them! You don't happen to be selling a pair on E-bay right now are you? K

Thanks Gil, I appreciate your time. You ahve been the most helpful on this subject and i would like to recognize that...thanks for trying to upload the flyer, that would have been great, but I understand the timeout issues. I am just not crazy about MDF, certainly not over the birch ply. And I did search the archives, but I didn't answers to my specific inquiry, without wading through apparent pages and pages of nonsensical argument about heritage versus reference, esoteric placement comments, sensitivity white papers, etc. The search function is not as dynamic as I would hope, and I am sure I would get blasted for four separate threads asking more "specific" questions all about the same thing, yes? Of course it would have expended as much time if you would have weighed in to answer a few of the questions, and gain my eternal appreciation and support, then to tell me to "search the archives", but then again my cup is half full, how is yours? But thanks for your suggestion and response at any rate. K

I didn't get any feeedback on my question regarding the best years for heritage speakers in the home theater section...except an insightful post about magnets, thank you Gil.. No answers to my request for best heritage years, or best crossovers, what is up with the MDF v. Birch (when did that happen) or much of anything else... SO I will ask here this one small question...can you unstrap a Heresy II speaker? From what I have seen the fronts AND the backs are glued, how do you get to the crossover, take the woofer out? Does that give enough room for taking out the crossover? Thanks, K (WHy doesn't the e-mail subscribe function work anymore?)

Thanks for the reply! Now answer me this, when did the Heresy go MDF? I am assuming that you mean that particle board stuff as opposed to the birch plywood of my beloved Cornwalls? Can MDF heresys be finished (sanded and such) if they were "raw birch"?? Is this just a birch skin over MDF? The ones I am looking at have mitered corners (which appears to me to be a definite change form the butt ended Heresy I), but that mitered corner matches my 86-7-8 Cornwalls, and would look like a matched pair...should I look for an older set? What about the crossovers? Are they different from I to II, and if so, how? Thanks again... K