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I bought it mostly for the audio after hearing all the raves. Honestly I was disappointed. Although the impact was there, it seemed 'fake'. It was like listening to a badly mastered SACD or DVD-A of a stereo recording (why is the guitar behind me?). A fist swinging thru the air doesn't make THAT sound. Perhaps I should check my calibrations and give it another look-see.

I had to do that myself. I have spent the last several minutes cuddling my lamp cords so they wouldn't feel bad. Boy! My amps' feeling are hurt. I talked to them though and they're ok for the moment. They understand that they are not in the serious tweakers part of town and can live with that. They also promised not to go out on any dates with the Lamp Cord section of stereo town... You just keep your high flauting, amplifying thingy ma bobs on you own side of the tracks. If I catch'em any where around my lamp cords it's shotgun wedding time, hear me shipmate!?

I had to do that myself. I have spent the last several minutes cuddling my lamp cords so they wouldn't feel bad.

What's the story CG, what do the good folks up north have to say of your mis-fortunes?

uh...... hmmmmmmmmm.............. er........ oh, never mind. Too easy, Richard . . . . . I'm sitting here on hold for going on an hour now for my son's Christmas Rockband guitar that needs an RMA and I get this guff. OK, I'll take it. Need to show this one to the wife, maybe I can get a free trip to the pantRy for some goodies.

Little update, very little. When I got to the panty to lay the new hardwood flooring I had to remove the built in shelving as it rested on the floor. The wife decide that I should make an entire new shelving system. I built it out of nice wood with extensive millwork and I was prepping it to start the staining process and SHE STATES SHE WANTS IT PAINTED GLOSS WHITE AAHHHHHHHHHHHH! 4 days of routing edges, being extremely anal about plumb, square, yada yada so I would not have to use any filler. I know that I am slow but I could have slapped that puppy together, filled in with chaulk and rolled some white on it. OK, I feel better. Back to the point, I have made the drawings using Gil's graph paper and the ideas submitted by you fine folk, made the major cuts out of 3/4" oak ply and ripped some 3/4 x 2" oak for trim and stiffeners (decided on 2" so I can enlay the Wii sensor and IR repeater sensor). I even shelled out for a new dado blade as my Craftsman rotary adjustment blade just never made a smooth bottom, always had an inverse "V" at the bottom. Memo to self, buy some stock in saw blades. I"ll get back to work soon as I can.

ya long haired hippy!I'm an idiot. Gotta have a band before you can play mutiple instruments. Leave it to my 7 yo. Glad fighter jets ain't this complicated.

I can not keep this thing connected. My son got the set today. Drums work fine but the guitar will initially connect but after the first input from the guitar (any button) it losses connection. Batteries are full @1.54 volts and distance to Xbox not a factor. Microphone doesn't work either. Anyone?

You have my sympathies[:'(] I think I'd be getting a little PO'd by now.

Glad you got it working out. Now do a little (lotta) reading, buy an inexpensive RatShack SPL meter and set it up manually, it'll help. While the onboard setup is very useful $30 bucks or so and some research will pay dividends. BTW, I was out shopping for the wife who at the last minute dropped an earbud request on me. I stopped by a HTIB store (BB) and the informed clerk almost gagged when I turn down the B0$e and asked if they stocked Klipsch; he'd never heard for that Chinese brand but if I didn't like Bo$e then I might as well spend the $3.99 on the generic ones. I told him that when I was his age I had two sets of 901's but then I heard real speakers and gave them away. Merry Christmas to all.

Yo' Cigarbum, my heart bleeds for you! Let's see, Cornwalls upstairs with the new 275 (what was that McIntosh you took from up there, whaaa). Oh yea, I forgot the Cornwalls AND LaScalas you have downstairs with, what, OH yea, more McIntosh. Wait, then there's the spare amp. Merry Christmas Bob. You guys gotta get a look at the MCS (JC Penny Bob thinks) amp and pre-amp hanging out there. That is a marketing dream, wonder what it sounds like?

Okay now that it seems you are out of the woods (Praise Him), this post is worthless without pictures...of the nurses.

Give him a small break, last time the new amp arrived it wasn't quite ready for power due to ehh... 'dampness' and bit the big one. It's been long enough; the fireplace is hot and I know your room, it's way comfy......TURN IT ON!

[:@] Patience my friend...........NOW turn it ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![8o|]

The wife gave me an overhaul of my McIntosh C-28 and MC-2125 for Christmas; Mr Terry Dewick accommodated a expeditious turnaround (they sound wonderful); I got to spend an evening with the Cigarbum who opened his beautiful mountain home to my family. Terry did his normal magic, nothing new for him but I am in awe of the sound. CG and his better half provided my family with shelter from the dirving rain, food and drink. He gave me a chance to hear some outstanding music on his superb Mc/Klipsch systems(s), enjoy a fine smoke and to meet a true gentleman. My son will forever remember his first Live Round Fires and actually hitting the target. My little girl loved the house and how kind Bum and Bummett were to her, if you guys wake up to find a woman in the hot tub blubbering "I'm in heaven", you know whose wife that is! Thank you all, I am blessed. Mike

Mr Gil, SIR, I received the graph paper today. Such generousity and FEDEX to boot. Thank you, thank you! It will be put to good use as soon as possible.

My dear wife wants a new set of "ear buds" like my 7 yo's to listen to her MP3s while working out. I would really like her to have Klipsch (just because darnit) but a: she has about 75% hearing loss in one ear and b: I don't know which ones to buy her. Christmas getting really close here!

More true words have not been spoken!!!! I don't think I have ever read anything on these forums that I can begin to agree upon as much as the above statement. 1) Best speakers you can possibly afford 2) Acoustics, Acoustics, Acoustics, reads just like Location, Location, Location, and just as impoertant!!! 3) Then worry about electronics. Pre amp and amp first. I can't tell you how much it maks me want to puke when I see major speakers and major hardware shoved into an acoustical nightmare!!! Roger Not a slap Roger, but it's easier for some of us to try to 'overcompensate' with what we have as a house and do the best we can then to buy around a system that we didn't own when the shelter was purchased. Next home purchase will be gone into with a lot more thought into this. Or at least as much as the boss will allow.[]

My dear wife wants a new set of "ear buds" like my 7 yo's to listen to her MP3s while working out. I would really like her to have Klipsch (just because darnit) but a: she has about 75% hearing loss in one ear and b: I don't know which ones to buy her. Christmas getting really close here!

I'll suggest again... in my opinion, the speaker is the first thing to worry about... the room is probalby the second thing to worry about and THEN I'd think the electronics would fall into place as an item of major influence on the sound. I do know this; there was quite a difference in depth and sound stage width (sweet spot went from a single seat to sofa width) when I went from Onkyo P-3060 and M-504s/M-508s to the McIntosh. I tried Fosgate and it shrank again.

Coytee, OT here but we are awaiting word from Terry when he can 'one day' the preamp and then we will be diving up to Knoxville for the day (20-22nd) and then to CigarBum's to impose on him for a time. Bob, get the ceeegars and whiskey ready. Sorry, I do not have any Lawrence Welk vinyl.

I just friggin knew there wasn't an answer to this. I used to own several Onkyo M-508 amps into my Chorus, Quart etc before I got the Belles. Funny that while I was missing something (what?????) I never even considered getting rid of the Klipsch and I don't know why. What would I replace them with? I got the McIntosh and I went WOW! Then I got the Belles and I went WOW! WTF is it that I still am missing? 30+ years of being around aircraft noise but darn it I want want to hear and feel the sound (not sub woofer boom). Sometimes I think that my speakers (system) doesn't have....something .... in the mid to lower mid range and I should be losing high freq. stuff even though tests prove that I have lost 5 db at most. Room? While not anywhere near optimal, I have placed treatments to counteract. OK, I just got word that an work problem I have been fighting for 10 days got fixed so I should be happy. Where is my warm (?) sound?

any tube stuff. I have toyed with the idea but I am ignorant of the "upkeep" and the requirement to tube roll for a sound. Really now guys, no BS. Would a person hear a MAJOR difference going from SS to tubes given a price point? Case in point, going from McIntosh C-28 and MC-2125 tuned and working fine to whatever would be an equal trade in resale value, would I have a great difference? Open ended question and now I'm getting the come here from the wife so I will leave it at this for now. Forgive me, please!

Thanks for all the help gentlemen. I will get to work on some version over the holidays if the slave driver here gives me a break from the flooring install. Post a pict when done. James, William and David; thanks a bunch! [][][]

If I were to try another tube amp tomorrow, I personally wouldn't go for a McIntosh but I'd try another OTL amp. (now exiled in the closet with endless Christmas songs playing over the Muzac system) the muzac will be played over Bose powered by McIntosh; such heresey; be off with ye