ClaudeJ1

While I don't know why they were made that way for 2 channel (very large "bookshelf?"), they seem to be the ticket for a 5.1 system since they can "lay low" below an HD TV or projection on the wall.

My brother might have a pair of these for sale. They were professionally veneered in Oak. They have the horns turned 90 degrees. Are they worth more as single center front in a 5.1 system?

My brother has a pair of Horizontal Cornwalls he is thinking of selling. He bought the cabinets from a musician who had pulled all the drivers out to use for PA. He got them Oak Veneered and bought all new drivers and Xovers about 20 years ago. They should work really well for you in the center. I'm sure someone else would buy the other one who is in the same boat. Email or PM me if interested.

My brother might have a pair of these for sale. They were professionally veneered in Oak. They have the horns turned 90 degrees. Are they worth more as single center front in a 5.1 system?

Well you did a good job AFAI can tell. Thank you. The main reason I even asked is because I wanted to find out if there is any attenuation going on with the tweeter horn. If so, how much, because I may be interested in using a Cornwall III tweeter (tractrix) with my newly acquired LaScala cab for the 6th channel on my 6.1 receiver, I have a K5J from 1956 with a JBL LE 85 driver, which is 16 ohms, so if the Cornwall III tweeter is effcicient enough, I could run it straight into the 2 uF capacitor of my "A: Xover and maybe bypass the autoformer if I needed less attenuation. I know the Cornwall III specs out at 102 db efficiency, which is only 2 db away from a LaScala/Khorn, so that tweeter may be useful. If it's being attenuated on a Cornwall III, then I know it would work with a La Scala. Mostly I want to know if there is an Lpad or autoformer being used on that tweeter. tweeter K-107-TI 1" (2.54cm) Titanium diaphragm compression driver high frequency hornK-79-T Tractrix

Sure I would love a photo of the cornwall III schematic, you are the first to respond. Are you curious enough to do it? If it's like the Chorus, is should be attached to the plastic cup that holds the speaker connectors. thanks in advance.

Anyone have one sketched out or a picture of the Xover?

I'm driving 2 Khorns, 1 LaScala, a Chorus II rears with an Onkyo, 6xxx series. Gorgeous sound. I have had Khorns for 30 years, and this is as good of an amp as I've ever had with 2-channel, including Marantz tubes.

OK, so I'm assuming that the Autoformer taps are, in effect in series/parallel with the cap value feeding the coil of each respective driver, so I need to consider the inductances of the Autoformer as part of the Xover point?

I have a digital meter, so I can only measure the DC ohms of a voice coil, which is about 13 ohms for the JBL mid driver and about 6 ohms for the tweeter. Both appear to be close to a K55V and a K77 in terms of nominal rating, but I'm not sure.

Got a great deal today for sure ($35). Gave it a sponge bath inside and out to get rid of dust and dog hair. It's Fir plywood, not birch, like my 1977 center channel La Scala. This one will make the 6th channel in my 6.1 setup (presently 5.1). Thanks for pointing this out, Bob. Co-incidentally, I had to pick up a couch for my college daughter only 3 miles from this guy's house. I'll have to pull my K33 E from the Peavey FH-1 and plug in my Klipsch K5J horn with the JBL LE85 and use a spare JBL 2404. I just need to get a fine threaded screw (one missing) from the hardware store to mount the woofer. Anyone know what year this cab was built? I enlarged the Ser. #. It also came with a Peerless 70 Volt Xformer, which I removed. We'll see how it plays tomrrow. I have a boatload of film capacitors, so I will listen to these first before I upgrade them. Bob, can I run the tweeter and the midrange off separate taps on the autoformer? Pretty the JBL stuff is way more efficient than the Atlas stuff and the drivers don't match each other in efficiency.

Well, I rescued the Xover, Bob, and got the empty LaScala cab for $10. The whole thing required a major sponge bath, but it lives. I will upload pictures.

So why couldn't you be in Atlanta or someplace closer? I would jump on that if I were close by. Bruce OK, so how about if we meet for lunch in Cincinnati, then? I'll bring the speakers, you bring the cash.

She's got 2 but I married the youngest and best looking of the 3.

Understood. My fiancee co-signed for my original Klipschorns 30 years ago this year, right before we were married. They arrived right after the honeymoon, so she left for the day so my 2 music buddies and I (with some imported beers) could set them up and enjoy them. She also arranged for me to tour the factory in Hope for my 31st birthday 22 years ago. She came along and we spent the day with Mr. and Mrs. Paul W Klipsch. What a woman!!

These will go up on Ebay in a few days, but I posted here first. The other speaker's serial is #8923142. claudej1@aol.com

more photos. No major nicks anywhere. Beautiful grain and color. Tight bass, great sound, but you already know that.

Pair in excellent condition. Consecutive serial numbers. Detroit Area. Pickup only. Asking $595. will deliver to 50 mile radius.

I know that most Klipsch listeners have been known as "DB freaks" at one time or another, myself included. However, I feel that we should follow the advice of PWK about protecting our hearing for the long haul and to listen at levels that are more "realistic" to real music, with perhaps a real symphony as reference or a smal club Jazz ensemble. According to OSHA, we can toloerate 90 db levels in a factory for an 8-hour shift without permanent hearing loss. 93 db for 4 hours, 96 db for 2 hrs, and so on. I'm not sure that these numbers are conservative enough. The people that set up the standards for 5.1 specificatons feel that, for the home, 85 db should be a "normal" listening level, with the system allowing for 105 db peaks at all requencies without distortion. Since even the Klipsch computer speakers can meet this criteria, how many of you monitor your listening levels with a Radio Shack sound meter? I do it and find that from around 85 to 88 db level at my listning postition gives me satisfying results. If you guys measure, what is the average listening level for YOU?

I'll go one better than LaScalla II's. I have 77 Khorns (original owner), will all new film capacitors on the mid with custom 3rd order Xover on JBL 2404H twweters WITH twin subs. I guarantee I can beat La Scala II's with that. The only way I could improve this is with Jubilees Bass Bins and 402/K69's in the corners, but I would sill have subs to get me to 20 Hz and fatten the low end around 60 hz. down in a smaller room. That would be the ultimate Klipsch high end in my book. Lowest distortion, most detail, highest output with any amplifier. Aesthetics can easily be improved with veneers or speakers hidden behind a large corner grill cloth..............it's all about the best sound and that is what I would do if I had insurance money to work with.

I got my fiancee to co-sign for a loan to get my Klipschorns when I was 23. They got here about 2 days after my honeymoon. I paid $1,600 a pair plus 4% tax. Paid them off quickly and ordered a LaScala center while I built PWK's mini box. I had 2PH3 stereo since I was 23 (1977). My wife arranged a trip to Hope when I was 31 and I got to be PWK's guest for a day. We are celebrating 30 years together and with tons of Klipsch everywhere (computers, gargage, etc). She is great (I got her Heresy's one Xmas).

I have the other DVD and will buy this one for sure. I had a job to do in Grand Rapids and wanted to be there, but a contract is a contract!

Wouldn't the conclusion of that statement be that the source material is at fault - not the amp? Basically, if the amp is accurate, then the only way for the amp to lack warmth is for the input to also be lacking warmth??? That's not to imply that compensating for the source material is a bad thing, but I think the difference in perspective might change how one approaches a solution. Do we try to compensate in the amp-speaker interface where the greatest amount of distortion is occuring, or do we move to say the preamp-amp interface where we don't have as much distortion to worry about? Or how bout the player itself? Or how about learning to appreciate the shortcomings of the source material and accepting a narrower range of music to listen to? It seems PWK's approach was to build up the most accurate system and then make his own recordings that didn't lack any of the warmth, depth, or whatever else we desire in our music. Precisely. That would be my take on it as well. Those recordings of his sounded just wonderful. All I can say is Paul was right. His was the best I heard. I also attribute it to the false corners and the fact they the 3-channel array was at least 4 feet from the bay window, which eliminated the early reflections that we suffer from in small rooms. His living room was huge. So the direct to reverberant ratio was high, letting me hear the original ambience in the recordings, which were all live performances with orchestra, his ultimate sound reference. I belive PWK and Valerie attended symphonies and operas until the very end, but I don't know that for sure.

100% agree I not only agree, I have a similar setup for my Khorns. With two 15's, two 12's, two passive 15's and 2 ports, my VMPS subs with 400 watts of power really fill out the missing low end of my Khorns, yet there is no sacrifice in transient response, etc. since they cross at 60hz lowpadss and I run the Khorns full out (they roll at 60hz, although most wouldn't admit it). Your 3-way Jubs with subs have got to be the best of the best IMHO. I'm sure PWK is smiling down on that setup for sure.