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With the autotransformer we are talking about attenuation or decreasing the midrange output. So 3db of attenuation is where Paul Klipsch set it in the type A and AA crossovers. The higher the number in db, the lower the output of the midrange. Bob Crites.

6db has the tweeter twice as loud (3db louder) than the midrange. I would not like that at any level. Bob Crites

The AK-2 has 6db of attenuation which even the guys in the lab at Klipsch agree was a mistake and 2db too much. They did that based on testing of the prototype of the K-55M which came in 2db higher in output than the K-55V. Later when they tested production versions of the K-55M they found it was really the same output as the K-55V, so they corrected that back to only 4db in the AK-3. Dean, I am pretty sure you heard that story the same time I did down at Hope. Bob Crites

I first tried to do this back in 2011 right after working out the 2-way Cornscala Style D using the HF140 and LTH142. Essentially just adding a tweeter to cover the top of the HF in the Style D. Never made that combo really work to my satisfaction. This current attempt will not likely be the HF140. Not sure what it will be yet. I have a couple of different candidate drivers to use for the midrange, just need to find the time to do more testing. Bob Crites

I have also had a similar setup just in the mock-up stage for quite some time. Working through driver selection currently. Have not yet settled on exactly which driver to use for the midrange. Pretty sure I have the tweeter nailed down. Bob Crites

Yes, let me know when.

Thanks for that zener part number. The 1N2973B is a 9.1 volt zener. The zener used in the AA crossover is a 5.1 volt. That means considerably more power is allowed to the tweeter in the KP 2.5A than was allowed by the AA crossover. Bob Crites

I have seen a picture of the 2.5A but have never found a schematic or had my hands on the actual crossover. I appears to use the same cap set as the 2.5B crossover except the 2.5uF caps were done using a 1.5uF and 1uF in parallel. Also the zeners were on it but I don't know what part number zener was used. Doesn't seem to be the same zener used on the Type AA crossover. Bob Crites

Some of the crossover designs have a resistor in parallel with the poly switch which allows the tweeter to continue working at a much reduced level when the polyswitch opens. Some like the KG-4 just have the polyswitch so the tweeter will go completely silent when the polyswitch opens. Bob Crites

Happens pretty often to the woofer circuit since that one has no cap in series. Normally not for the other two drivers since they both normally are protected by the DC blocking ability of a cap. And usually the woofer voice coil opens before the fire can get going really good. But if you leave the cap out of the autotransformer circuit you have no such "fuse" like a woofer voice coil to save you.

I breadboard a similar circuit often when doing testing to enable easy changes in attenuation. However, when I decide on the attenuation, I revert that circuit back to having the cap before the autotransformer. I just would not feel safe leaving that large low resistance coil in there for the long term as a direct low resistance path to ground. Thinking of course here of the chance that the amp could fail and put a high current DC supply across that autotransformer coil. Now that can and does happen with the woofer circuit. But in that case, generally the relatively small woofer voice coil opens petty quickly taking the path for current away. The autotransformer with much larger wire will just continue to cook until something in the amp gives up. Like I said, just can't get comfortable leaving that in the circuit long term and without me right there monitoring it. Bob Crites

Both the K-77D and K-77F were made by Daiichi in the Philippines.

There is much more to that than Dean said. I could probably build a type A crossover from scratch quicker than I could turn an E-2 into a type A. Lots of rewiring on the terminal strips (which are fragile by that age and likely to break) and also the inductor is wrong value and would have to be replaced. And with what the guy is selling that pair of E-2 for, probably cheaper to buy a new pair of type A.

Dean you need to take a good look at the E-2 schematic.