Vega211R

Since the transformers and other items don't seem to be affected by age like the capacitors, you could leave them and just replace the caps. The capacitor kits should be all you need. In most cases, the complete crossovers are only replaced when going for a distinct upgrade to a different type, not for maintenance reasons. Great! Thank You..

For the speak placement, or you talking about your surround speakers, or the rear surrounds? 5.1 or 7.1?

I bought the RC-64 about 6 years ago. Since the RC64II may be better, you will love it.

Since I'm new to vintage Klipsch I want to be clear. A lot was posted saying the crossover's may be the problem, and some just mentioned the capacitors. A pair of new crossovers is $175.00. That would be the whole thing. The rebuild kit is $38.00, which mainly consist of the capacitors. Since these have a little age on them, 1977, would just the capacitor kit be enough or does any one think I need to replace the whole shootin match??

Makes sense. Thanks.

Question: I've had several responses that advised me to put my Heresy's ON the FLOOR. My question is why? Over the years I have always thought that speakers sounded better off the floor. Even if it's just 12 inches or so. Just asking...

Thank you.

I have already tried/done that. They are now acting as my left and right surrounds. For that the stands or needed. Thanks.

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Yes I did only mention 3 of my speakers. I'm using the Heresy's for the right and left surrounds. I do have them on stands right now about 2 feet off the floor.I have a pair of CDT-5800 ceiling speakers I'm using for the rear surrounds. I wish I would have went with something in the wall instead of ceiling. Maybe later. I have a pair of vintage Cerwin Vega 211R's that I'm using for right and left fronts. Twelve inch woofers also. I bought them in 77 when I bought my 9090DB. I have the RC-64 for the center, and a Paradigm PS1200 subwoofer. I have another pair of the CDT-5800's in front mounted left and right of the TV which are suppose to be the presence speakers. For right now I have to chose which I want to hear. The rear surrounds or the presence. I go with the rear. The RX-V2600 is 7.1. It's also rated 1080I not 1080P for the video. The TV is a Samsung PN63C8000 63" Plasma. Now for the Heresy's, I am going to do pretty much all that was suggested pertaining to the caps and crossovers. I plan to get started on them toward the end of the month. I will get them to sound as they should. Again, thanks to everyone for your input and sharing your knowledge to help... I let ya know when it happens.

FYI: For anyone who may not know this. For cabinet's that have a oil finish, such as my Heresy 1's which have a Walnut Oil, Klipsch recommends using a product called Watco Rejuvenating Oil. Follow directions and treat the wood every 1 to 1.5 years. It just wipes on, let set for 15 to 20 minutes, then wipe off. It really makes the wood look great. Also just dust as usual every week or so. It's made by the Rust Oleum people. You can find it at Lowes or Home Depot. Now also I want to offer a little something for everyone's help who would have a use for it. When I purchased my Hersey's as mentioned, they were shipped double boxed, with the inside box being their original box when sold new. They also had all of each speakers manuals along with warranty cards all in the Owner Information Packet for each speaker. Each packet had two manuals. One says Klipsch Loudspeaker Systems, The Ultimate in Fidelity of Music Reproduction. It covers the Klipschorn models. The Belle Klipsch and Cornwall models. The Heresy model, and the La Scala model. Printed in U.S.A. 11-75. The other manual also says Klipsch Loudspeaker Systems and covers the same speakers. It's really the same type of manual, but this one was Printed U.S.A. 5-77. A newer manual. This literature may be hard to come by, I'm really not sure. But if anyone has any of these vintage Klipsch models and would like a copy of either or both of these manuals let me know. Other than a little yellowing of the paper they are in very good shape. What I could do is scan each cover and page and email to anyone who wants it. You could print it out on a good quality paper, even photo paper, and it should look very good. There are some nice photos. One manual is 11 and the other 15 pages Just give me your email and I'll shoot it to you.Anyhow, thanks to all.

I don't know really what type of finish is currently on your La Scala's. But if it's something like a oil finish/stain, Klipsch recommends using a product called Watco Rejuvenating Oil. It's made by the Rust Oleum. I've been using it on my Heresy 1's that has a Walnut Oil finish for years. It really keeps the wood looking great. I apply it only once every 1 to 1.5 years. Just dust with a furniture product weekly or so..

OK.. I think we pretty much have a consensus here. Caps and crossovers are looking mighty strong as being the culprits. Thanks to everyone for all of yall help and input. Since there seems to be good sound coming out of all 3 on both speakers, and from the bit I've learned from yall tonight, I'm putting the caps and crossovers in my sights. I will look and most likely go with what some of you recommended. It may be a little while, but I'll get back after its done hopefully with some good news. Thank to all..... Oh... I own a 9090DB, there is a lot of room for improvement there, not to mention the caps are all tired there too. I bought mine brand new in January of 1977. Done gone thru the inside twice..

As nice and great as I think Klipsch speakers are, I also like the Paradigm Studio 100's. Is it OK to say that here?? I know they are another whole sound. But a good one. If your Heresy is working correctly, you would need an amplifier at least twice as powerful to get the same headroom out of the Studio 100 that you would get now with the Heresy.... but I don't know how powerful the amps you listed are; they might be powerful enough for either speaker. The Yamaha RX-V2600 is a 7.1 rated at 130 RMS per channel. The Sansui 9090DB is 2 channel stereo rated at 125 RMS per channel.

I see your type in the old car market all the time. They would rather drive something all 'original' than fix it up to be safe and drive well. Yes, I also know the type. But I want the BEST of BOTH WORLDS. If I am able. If I can afford it. That's why I'm asking for help here to try and diagnose and fix the problem. And yep, when it comes to certain things, I, like many others do like originally. Whether it be a old pair of speakers or a black 1980 Corvette with the L82. Because its Original only Once. But if there are problems, and you do it right, you may be able to have both, functional and original, or something really close. We should all be safe and drive well. The reason I said what I said, about being a little leary about messing them up, because it I do mess them up, scratch em, ding em or whatever, I'm going to kick myself in the ***.LOL And I do have that Corvette. Safe to drive and pretty much all original..

Oh I agree. I will try and do everything that was suggested in your post and others. I'm not certain how far I will want to go with the Heresy's if indeed they are the problem. I really do want to keep them. Just their cosmetic condition and how they stayed that way is a story in itself. I got the scoop from the original owner after I first got them in. As nice and great as I think Klipsch speakers are, I also like the Paradigm Studio 100's. Is it OK to say that here?? I know they are another whole sound. But a good one. For my center channel I'm using the Klipsch RC-64. I really like it. Thanks to everyone for the help and suggestions.

I just read thru this. Maybe I might start off by cleaning all the internal as was stated. This pair of Heresy's were made in 1977. So they are getting up in age. I'm sorted feeling as that guy was about the originally and value. As I said earlier, these Heresy's are 99.95 Mint. No scratches. No dings. Not even on the bottom of the speakers. They do look new. The original owner said they always sat on some type of cloth on speaker stands. The backs have never been off. So by them looking this good, I am a little leary about messing with them. But, they don't sound as good as they look.

I'm sorry I did not mention this earlier about my other amp. I also have a Sansui 9090DB which I have also tried with the Heresy's. I did get a different/warmer sound, but not what I was looking for. My buddy's sounded very clean, meaning even at low volume all sounded crystal, a fair bass. He had no subwoofer hooked up. As I said, they do sound ok. There's no static or noise you might hear with somethng blown. Just kinda muddy.

My receiver is a Yamaha RX-V2600 and I have a Sony C79ES cd player. My room size is appox. 20x20. At my friends the room that his stereo was in was a little larger. I remember coming home and playing the same CD on my system with my speakers and his Heresy's sounded much better. I can't say that now with my Heresy's. I know my receiver and player would rate better than what he had at that time. I'm thinking the acoustics or speakers. Or maybe even a combination. I don't know..

I posted this yesterday in the General Questions Section, but this might be the right place for what I'm asking: After hearing some Heresy 1's at a buddy house a year or so ago,I knew I had to get me a pair. I also wanted a pair in good cosmetic condition. After watching Ebay for quite sometime I found a pair described as all original with nothing ever done to them. Their cosmetic condition turned out to be 99.95% Mint. Like new. A great find. But somehow they don't sound near as good as the ones my buddy had, which he no longer does. He sold them to his brother out of state. Anyhow, I know my receiver is quite a bit better than the one he had. My CD player is also much better. I'm even listening to the very same CD/music. His speakers sounded better. I can only think of two things that could be making the difference. One being the difference in the acoustics of the two different rooms. The other would be my speakers may need some type of work. I am new to the Heresy's but I've read that maybe the crossovers could be part of the problem. I don't know. Don't get me wrong, they do sound good, but far from great. As for as his speakers, I do not know if they were all original such as mine. I do not know if any work was ever done on his. So, any thoughts?? Help Welcome..

After hearing some Heresy 1's at a buddy house a year or so ago,I knew I had to get me a pair. I also wanted a pair in good cosmetic condition. After watching Ebay for quite sometime I found a pair described as all original with nothing ever done to them. Their cosmetic condition turned out to be 99.95% Mint. Like new. A great find. But somehow they don't sound near as good as the ones my buddy had, which he no longer does. He sold them to his brother out of state. Anyhow, I know my receiver is quite a bit better than the one he had. My CD player is also much better. I'm even listening to the very same CD/music. His speakers sounded better. I can only think of two things that could be making the difference. One being the difference in the acoustics of the two different rooms. The other would be my speakers may need some type of work. I am new to the Heresy's but I've read that maybe the crossovers could be part of the problem. I don't know. Don't get me wrong, they do sound good, but far from great. As for as his speakers, I do not know if they were all original such as mine. I do not know if any work was ever done on his. So, any thoughts?? Help Welcome..

Thanks to all for the help and advice. I also think I will go give a listen to the H3"s as Moray suggested. Budman, I live just out of Baton Rouge, La

I do have a pretty good sub. I kinda have a mixture of stuff. lol Yamaha RX-V2600, Paradigm PS-1200 v4 Active Sub-Woofer, Klipsch RC-64 center, Klipsch Hersey I's for surrounds, Cerwin Vega 211-R's for fronts, Klipsch CDT-5800-C for rear surrounds and front presence speakers. Yea I know, I should have match more. But it is what it is. It sounds good. Thanks..

Thank you for the reply and information. If I would consider selling them, you said to not touch the crossovers. As I said in the beginning, I really don't know about the mechanics of this or any speaker. Is the crossover the same as the caps which you said I should change in the first sentence? Again, thanks for the info..