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---------------- On 1/26/2003 2:52:38 PM HDBRbuilder wrote: I have to agree with Q-man on this point...most folks have NO IDEA of how their bass bins actually work...and have always been at least a bit curious...but afraid to take a peek, since most are afraid they will "screw" something up if they do so. But once a bargain is being talked, and money has been seen...then they are far more likely to allow the inspection of the woofers by a potential buyer who shows knowledge of what he is about to do!!...especially if they are in a hurry to make the sale! The additional bonus to the seller is getting a quick primer to the workings of what they have been listening to for a time...thereby settling a bit of their curiosity...while at the same time ensuring the buyer everything is "kosher"! ---------------- Great points HDBRbuilder after all,.. when you buy a car, whether its off the lot,.or off someones lawn.. you check under the hood,as one of the first things..right Besides......"its fun" I remember one of the first things i did when i got the Cornwalls into the house was to take the back off,..and see the inside of these babies,..and WOW.. no cost cutting here btw mine were bought new. BUt....i still opened em up !! One thing i wanted to know was........? the different styles of k horns they went A, B, C. one was and industrial "raw form horn and i think one was the full furniture version with the separation between the horn cab and folded horn,.with a rise at the bottom the other ,im trying to remember, was a more plain furniture cabinet with no split between the horn cabinet and folded horn..and no rise at the bottom am i right about these * the full furniture cabinet with the split and riser is the one im going for.. in fact..i think its the only one made now right? * how bout those deluxe finishes...?? or have they dropped em Thanx man Rob

---------------- On 1/25/2003 10:51:20 PM lynnm wrote: Those are very nice units and are as important to the development of the Hi Fidelity era as the original Klipschorn ! See: http://www.octave-aw.co.uk/autograph.htm These are as important in Europe as a pair of Paul Klipsch signed Klipschorns are in North America . ---------------- lynnm Thanks for the link. IT looks like one of the greats, for sure! Someday i look forwared to hearing a set I can see where it runs in the same class as the Klipschorn, and a select group of others. the 9' Stienway's of speakers very nice,..and thanks again Rob

---------------- On 1/5/2003 1:25:33 AM Jim Cornell wrote: I was wondering if some of you guys would be interested in a 18 inch Crate 600watt industrial bass woofer, modified with the the RP-3 tower AMP? Connect it to the sub output, and your set, i put this together when i had 4 cornwalls, with the bass at the lowest setting, it rattles everything in the house! The down part, ITS THE SIZE OF A CORNWALL dam near! 80+ pounds, Make an offer, E-mail me Let me know its been just sitting in my living room, im tired of looking at it Regards Jim ---------------- Jim Thats a REAL subwoofer!! Nothing like true bass extension!! Thats why im going with a set of KTP 484 that will sit on either side of my behind the screen Lascala center speaker. powered by a vintage Dynaco 416 of course! nice sub though and YES i can relate to the cornwall sized cabinets having owned a set for a few yrs.. real sound! Rob

I see a set of Tannoy Guy R Fountain Corner Speakers on ebay. Not being completely familliar with all of the Tannoys, is it a horn design?,.. or something just shapped to fit in a corner. It looks like a very ellegant cabinet. typical of that era of Tannoy. Has anyone heard a set? Do they sound anything like the Westminster? (westminster is what my neighbor next door has These are BIG speakers. anyway's the guy's are still listed on ebay current bid :US $9,700.00 if anyones interested have fun., Rob

---------------- On 1/24/2003 1:33:37 AM jt1stcav wrote: Unfortunantly, my experience has been mostly negative (which pisses me off to no end)! My brother used to work at a high-end audio salon in Tampa that sold loudspeakers from such manufacturers as EgglestonWorks, Thiel, Magnepan, Mission, Vandersteen, Dynaudio, Meridian, etc. When he mentioned our dad's Klipsch, the other employees would either laugh or sneer...never once did he experience a positive comment! Later when I visited another like salon, filled to the brim with lots of tube gear and loudspeakers from Definitive Technology, Epos, Paradigm, ProAc, McIntosh, Miage, NHT, Snell Acoustics, etc., and was looking at tube preamps, I was asked what loudspeakers I owned. When I told the salesman I owned Cornwalls, he gave me this look as if I had just farted and stunk up the joint! I've never patronized either audio retailers again. Most of my non-audiophile friends never even heard of Klipsch, but mention Bose, JBL or Polk Audio, and oh yes...they know them! Besides my dad's boss and a doctor our family knew years ago, I know of only friend who owns a pair of Klipsch KG 5.5 horn-speakers. Unfortunantly, he only bought them because he got them at a deep discount, and not because they sounded better than the Infinitis he also auditioned (if the Infinitis were cheaper, he would've bought them instead). He knows they're horns and that they're efficient, but he doesn't really appreciate them like we do; he's a computer geek who also has a stereo system (JVC A/V receiver and Toshiba DVD with no center channel or surround speakers; he did just purchase a Hitachi 57" rear projection HDTV monitor, but still has no plans to buy additional speakers for HT use). This Forum doesn't interest him in the slightest. Wish my experiences were better... ---------------- I have heard similar things... When i bought my 1981 Cornwalls, they were considererd top of the mark. I worked at a Audio dealer at the time , where we sold just about everything audio, and were lucky enough to carry many manufactures home and pro lines... I bought my cornwalls after hearing the owners Klipschorns the night before..at his home There was no question... i went down and put my $2600.00 canadian..for a pair of CWO Cornwalls with the risers. I had to have the exact same finish as the bosses cornerhorns... Didn't buy horns, because i didn't have two good corners to put em in.. But...the Cornwalls.....still had "that sound" But over time peoples perceptions change. Remember... these were the days when PWK was running the show. And at that time,..excluding PRO, what is known today as..."heritage" was the only thing that the home audio line offered.. Now there are many branches to the Klipsch tree. Yes i too have heard, ,Well they aint what they used to be,..or,.they used to be top of the line..but not anymore. The marketplace is so crowded with the "mid- line speakers . Perhaps people make that comparison to the heritage...and come up dissapointed, with the more moderate priced Klipsch speakers Because.... Heritage sounds different than any other speaker in the klipsch lineup. I also have heard offhanded comments from high end NON klipsch dealers One dealer gave to me "his greatest sympathys" for owning cornwalls But ....i put it down to them pushing their own goods,while knocking the competition. I have also heard Well....i can get a much better sound from a smaller powered sealed box. I do find alot of the negativity base on the lower priced Klipsch, found in the megga stores, and bought by some folks who could not begging to tell you what a Klipschorn is. There is a certain snobery in high end speakers. Some consider heritage....outdated 40yrs past the mark....in comparison to the "new "high end models The best way i can conclude is by saying that ,especially the heritage line is not worse, better or outdated. IT just sounds different. to some ears its Count Bassie in the front row To others its like a P.A speaker. Raw agressive harsh. look at it this way Klipsch heritage is like a Harley Davidson. it stands out on its own. because...it is different from the pack. Some people luv em..some hate em ITs that simple *p.s The MCM pro speaker, incidentally is the most awesome Pro speaker ive heard or used.!

---------------- On 1/23/2003 12:03:17 PM Invidiosulus wrote: Robb, A pool party sounds like a good idea. LOL klipsch on the balcony above the pool, a big screen tv showing the superbowl. All the warm weather here is nice during the winter but the summer months make up for it. It gets so hot and humid down here it feels like you are moving under water LOL. Last night some friends of mine and I watched the Bourne Identity(good movie btw). After the movie about 1 in the morning we sat out on the porch and finished off some pizza and beer. It was nice and peaceful and cool outside. The problem when it does get cold down here is some of the apartments are really poorly insulated. My buddies apt cools off really fast when it gets chilly outside, I've seen cardboard boxes with a better insulation factor. My apartment however seems to be just fine as the walls are rather thick which makes them practically soundproofed as well. I can blast my stereo at over 100dB and my neighbors can't hear it. Hehe, and with all my computers and stereo gear running all the time my apt stays pretty warm without use of the heater. If I had tubes I would propably have to run the AC all year round. Try and stay warm guys, Music warms the heart and soul. Peace, Josh ---------------- Josh My little sis lives in Atlanta GA I see on the dish,.the temps for there yesterday were low too! BUt yea,.. can relate to the humidity there! Hard to beleive that its just 4 months utill, i start to play football up here again i play semi pro, wr/db. But with yesterdays temps, seems like forever. and...im glad its not.. cause i luv to play. bee good Rob

---------------- On 1/23/2003 11:48:19 AM m00n wrote: Dudes, you guys that live in those alianistic arctic areas, don't you guys have some kind of way to keep your car engines from freezing? Seems to me that there would be some kind of an engine heater you could buy to help keep your engines from freezing up. ---------------- yep, Moon...saturns come standard with block heaters...as most modern cars do ... even the guys here from down south most likely have em in the car...but never have to use em but giving the temps... im sure some vehicles that were plugged in still didn't start. I even saw the towing company over at the police station,..boosting one of our brand new impala cruisers. so..thats the kind cold we had here Brrrrrr !

---------------- On 1/22/2003 12:08:33 PM Invidiosulus wrote: Ahh, Nothing like tales of the frozen north to make me appreciate this florida weather. 73°F and sunny. I lived outside of madison wisconsin for the first part of my life and I miss some of the weather up there but not all of it Peace, Josh ---------------- Well yesterday (wed) it was -40C here in Arnprior,..just outside of Ottawa canada My saturn is a frozen offering almost got it started,,..when it think the starter gave out.. LOL good thing we have two cars... so i say POOL PARTY AT JOSH'S PLACE !!! ha! STAY WARM rob

The other night , i watched the end of a story about Jimi Hendrix. LOL Not that i care much about Hendrix,.but it got me thinking,.. what if he were alive today,..and still in music...? Say,..his 2003 CD were just released, how would it sound,.. what kinda stuff would he be writing now? Maybe a departure from the "rig smashing" stuff that he was known for... Guess i think the same about John Lennon. Johns been gone for a while now. But IF he were still with us,.. what would his 2003 CD sound like. what might john be doing musically now? what would these guys think of CD? Its great to think eh ....imagine... Rob

---------------- On 1/19/2003 8:07:45 AM HDBRbuilder wrote: My having had personal experience with PWK...I am quite sure HIS intention in development of the Jubilee was NOT to deprive the general public from being able to afford its purchase...by pricing it so high that only the rich could afford it! But, rather, his intention was to design a speaker that was a two-way, fully horn-loaded design that was easier to manufacture and that would do a bit more in accurate sound reproduction than his venerable Klipschorn would do, while being of smaller size and not requiring an existing or false corner-fit in order to perform properly. The fact that it will be priced higher than the Klipschorn...at DOUBLE the cost of a Klipschorn...was, I am quite sure, NOT PWK's intent! I would venture to say that his intent was to use his engineering experience, combined with advancements in technology over the years, to come up with a two-way speaker design that simply was NOT POSSIBLE at the time he designed the Klipschorn....and that also was not possible for many years FOLLOWING his design of the Klipschorn. Knowing PWK, he thought long and hard over the years about this project before he ever began any research and development on it! And he was very well aided in its development by TWO prime helpers...one of whom was Roy DelGado, who was co-developer of the project, and without whose efforts, while working hand-in-hand with PWK on this project, the Jubilee would never have seen the light of day in ANY form or fashion! The pricing of the speaker was, alas, not the work of the engineering department! One thing many may NOT realize is that...over the years...a very large number of folded and other type horn designs were either copied or purchased by the company for testing purposes. There is probably not a single horn design from all this time (OR, for that matter, from the BEGINNING of horn designs!) that was NOT tested in one fashion or another by the engineering staff. Often a design would be used as a platform to test modifications, however slight or radical, to see just what the capabilities of these designs were...and to keep in mind certain aspects of these designs when the engineers developed new speakers for testing over the years. An additional bonus was that so very many companies throughout the world offered-up, on a regular basis, their drivers for testing at the lab...often with very interesting results! So the Jubilee development was a culmination of "lessons-learned" by PWK and the engineering staff over almost a half-century of testing and design...BEFORE the project was even embarked upon! I am quite sure that PWK had the "idea in his head" for many years before he decided to start the project...and actual start OF the project was brought on by developmental successes in other areas besides the basic bass-bin design of the Jubilee. Nevertheless, even when the project was initialized, there were many changes made to the original bass-bin design in order to get it to the point where it met the design parameters sought by PWK and Delgado! The fact that this project finally came to fruition was the work of many...but there are three individuals who devoted MANY hours to this project-in-development alongside PWK(one of them was Mrs. Valerie, of course)...and a good part of the reason so very many hours were devoted to this project is due in no small part to the realization of all concerned that PWK would NOT be in this plane of existence for very much longer! It was PWK's "baby", but it was the LOVE of certain others FOR PWK that kept this project rolling at so feverish a pace until its finish! Trust me on this!! ---------------- I wanted to add something to this link,..but after reading HDBRbuilders post,..he pretty well explain's the product in relation to the "mans wishes" As someone said earlier here,. this will put the klipsch nameplate on esoterica...now For good people who do have the spare $$$$ to buy in this price range, the quality will be unbeatable,...like other things available at this pricepoint.. Like cars, rare far east furniture, etc etc I know someone that has a $14,000.00 cherry grandfather clock in their foyer. BUT ...its the only one ive seen....like that. The numbers get so much smaller as you go up. It would be a very select market. ITs a tricky business decision to "go there" How may would you sell or build in a yr? How many tannoy Drednaughts or westminsters did they move . OR how many people do you know....have em? I hate it when marketing gets in the way of art,..but hey thats business nowaday's HDBRbuilder was right But im not sure thats the Paul would have wanted it. p.s has anyone heard the Jubillee commercial cabinet..??????? Personally that would look awesome in a deep cherry or Mahogany finish..!

---------------- On 1/14/2003 9:24:41 AM rf3iicrazy wrote: I agree bad ss gear can't hide form revealing klipsch. Although I've done comparisons with my ss & tube amps and my ss amp can really hold its own. Tell You the truth I could live with either one. They both have there strength and weaknesses, but good ss can make those Klipsch sing at any spl, IMHO!! Tom ---------------- I'll wade into this.... First to agree with Tom, by saying my cornwalls were VERY revealing,.and could show a poor amp design off,..in a flash While owning Cornwalls,.. i made good use of the time,.to try different amp/recievers of the day..(having worked at a Klipsch dealer where we sold other nice things too... the differences were really apparent. good: awful: H/K citation 16 series A Technics se9060 dynaco SCA 80Q Sony str 4800 H/K A402 Pioneer spec 2 Bryston 3B Crown DC300A IOC marantz model 2 (tube) Bose 1801 Luxman LV 105U (hybrid) Best : Mcintosh MC 2002 (ss) MCintosh C-26 preamp NAKAMICHI CA-5 preamp Hafler DH 200 amp (ss) Wish i had the chance to hear the cornwalls with more tube equipment like the early H/K citations, phillips and Mcintosh.. but the above , gives and example over a wide range of time,prices and configurations.. enjoy ROb

---------------- On 1/15/2003 7:59:40 PM tigerwoodKhorns wrote: Rob, I am glad that you posted that PIC. My "tigerwood" k-horns are the zebrawood that you posted. actually, the grain on mine is more pronounced (more contrast with a reddish tone). When I finally borrow a digital camera and have some time, I will post a pic. I absolutely love them. The owner told me that they were $10K. I don't believe him, but I imagine that they do cost more. Does anyone know what they go for new? Chris ---------------- Chris oh,.they are Zebrawood?? that explains that large graining.. I can't remember the guy on ebay saying zebrawood,..though ..Oh well. $10k,..?? i believe it... there was a belief around the shop that PWK's boys would make it (finish wise) ,.if you wanted to pay for it. The boss told me, that there are some very exotic finished Horns that were shipped to the Orient. $$$$$$$$$$ Personally,.. i like the darker the finish the better. But this stuff at the times they were made stood up with some of the finest furniture available....anywhere i mean..even my Cornwalls in the CWO with the finished risers..stood the test. fine sound...fine furniture (and the second part is how i know im gonna get my horns into the house.....ha ha!!) Are all the furniture finishes gone now? options,...etc bee good Rob

---------------- On 1/15/2003 7:17:24 AM greg928s4 wrote: I contacted the seller and got the photos. He was not able to upload them because of the size of the photos, they were huge. I resized them and sharpened them up a bit for him and sent them to him. Maybe he'll put the photos on ebay now. I've attached one here. How do you get the photos right in with this text page, instead of a separate attachment? I've seen some on this forum but I don't know how to do it. I've got three other photos, including one of the PWK signature. Boy I'm tempted to drop my re-veneering project and buy these! But I've already got the Rosewood veneer, and the Khorns for that matter! These are 3000 miles away! Someone's going to get a very special pair of Khorns. Notice in the photo that he doesn't have them in corners! Greg ---------------- Greg That was a decent thing you did there Greg! Everytime i think ive seen the most awesome set of these speakers....,another comes along. That just blows me away Has anyone ever seen a set in Zebrawood? The Klipsch store i worked for, sold a set to a retired Col,but i never seen them outside of the packing crates I hear its a very deep, rich grained finish. and the cost is allmost double , that of the standards,. black,.oak,.walnut,..etc Im attaching a pic of a set i had seen on ebay i think,..before christmas. 1965 horns in glorious oiled walnut These look well cared for But i luv the grille cloth Can't say ive ever seen that cloth before. Nothing like the ORiginals....eh boys Even more valuable with PWKs "john Handcock" enjoy ROb

---------------- On 1/13/2003 9:59:57 AM James D McCall wrote: I have no idea about the price, but the sound should be SLAMMIN'! Maybe not the last word in bottom octave extension, for sure, but still, that set-up should absolutely drill you into the back wall! You go!. ---------------- thanks james! yea..,thats the effect we are looking for!! I picked lascalla's because,.having sold them a way's back,..i know that they are ,Dynamic, agressive, and very fast! The perfect match for a movie soundtrack I picked Pro subs, because i don't hear that mushy extension,.. present in some of the better home subs..(mind you..not all of them) and these were used in the MCM grand setup ,.. so i figured would be a nice match for the Lascalla's. and being kind an old fashioned sound person i like everything powering from its own amp channel...all discreet electronics. (comes from working for a pro sound installer while in college) the sound setup so far: speakers: ktp 484 subs (x2) Klipsch lascalla left center right KLipsch in-wall for surrounds (sides ,rear) model TBA, 3 sides,(each side).2 in rear. stewart center channel ready screen man...these are expensive!! Amplifiers: Dynaco stereo 416 (subs) 1 per channel Harman /kardon cit 16/a left-right fronts Harman /kardon cit 16/a center,spare Bryston 2BLP sides, rear surrond Hammond locking,fan cooled rack independent double ,filtered 20A service for main/sub/surround amplifiers amp rack to be stationed behind center lascalla ,behind screen. monster cable wiring from speakers to rack. THX processsor TBA HELP !!!!!! i have no clue I have a seperate post for that... up to the min,.thats it thats all.

I think ive solved all of the amp/speaker needs for our behind the screen system. BUT...now comes the critical part. The THX processor. And this is where im gonna need help from you guys. Im looking for a rack mounted thx processor with discreet outputs for all power amps. THis is a device that i want to set "once" and leave it,. I am going with separate components rather than a HT "reciever" Being when the technology changes,.. so then, i can just change the front end of the system, aka the processor, and keep my amps/speakers/ crossovers,.etc,.. it will be mounted in the amp rack, away from curious fingers. the single source for the whole setup will be a single DVD player. im trying to keep it simple. suggestions would be great guys Processors is one area of all this , where i do not have alot of experience.. thanx..again guys ROb

Guys anyone have an idea of what a pair of KTP 484 pro subs go for?,..each that is? To use in between three Lascalla fronts. A dynaco 416 should power the subs Ok ,..i would think.... 1 per channel?,.. in a medium sized,..but fully dampened..carpeted room.. Or second choice would be a pro carver amp what to u think..? Im going somwhere with all these questions by the way. ITs part of a behind the screen system were trying to put together here. someday...i hope we finish it... thanks guys

---------------- On 1/7/2003 8:09:36 PM TBrennan wrote: I used to drive LaScalas with a Dyna 400 back in the 70s. Sound was very good and had real deep soundstage, weird, sometimes music sounded like it was coming from the street, you know, outside the walls. I think the Dyna sounded as good as any stuff back then including Mac and Ampzilla. www.chicagohornspeakerclub.org ---------------- excellent my friend ! because La scallas is what Jude and I are considering for behind the screen sound. For movies,..i can't think of a better speaker they are fast, aggressive and dynamic As for the stereo 416,.. it will most likely be powering subs.. for the system havn't decided on those yet. the home subs ,alot of them sound mushy.. but all this has to go hand in hand...eh

Has Anyone owned, or auditioned the Dynaco 416 basic amp,..with any of the heritage? Is it anything like the 400 (highly rated in these posts....i see) How would it say,..stack up to the Mcintosh of the day..(ss) im considering one for part of a big behind the screen system most likely to power subs,. @300w into 4 ohms thanks guys

everytime i think of someone trying to buid a klipschorn themselves,. i beleive its a prescription for insanity! i mean,....1 wrong turn, one wrong calcuation. A neighbor of mine insisted that he could build a pair of Belle's. well... the first one was completed,, and auditioned. I gotta say,... ...and it sounded awful, just terrible raw,.....harsh. no warmth at all.. Not like the one's in the showroom,for sure!!! The second one,..never got started. Guess he saw the hand writing on the wind,... out of frustration..he never finished the set. The wood for that one went towards a kitchen cabinet,.for the dishwasher! . LOl Folded horns are a class upon themselves (for many reasons) I used to know someone that built MCM horns but...they are bigger... even then...they never sounded quite like the "ones from Hope" Guess thats why PWK said,. klipschorns belles, lascalla and heresy would never be offered in kit form they are "systems" but there are DIY plans on the net I don't know of their sucess rate.. but...i do see it as a lesson in frustration. because....you"ll never get .."that sound"... happy hunting,.. rob

WOW I just had a look at that dynaco site. has anyone seen or used that big stereo 416? 300W into 4 ohms,.. could be good sub amp? no? can't remember seeing this one on the pre-owned websites...too much have fun rob

wow,..that big Dynaco has me more intrigued with every post i see here Can honestly say i ve nver had the chance to hook that one up..here at home. Im curious though,..you were saying it was one the best of its time..which i don't doubt. How did it stack up with the Mcintosh amps of the day..?? As for the Cit 16,, i never did get a chance to see how good or bad it really was,.as mine grew legs,..and dissappered from my living room one night , as a part of a break in. I never was able to replace it. Oh well,.. now since ive sold my Cornwalls,.a few yrs back,..its on to klipschhorns...and what ever amp that may be powering em. maybe a mc 2002. hmmm choices choices.. bee good Rob

JOSH ISN'T COMMERCIAL SOUND BEAUTIFULL !! KINDA LIKE BEING IN A CANDY SHOP JBL DOES MAKE A REALLY NICE PRO SPEAKER. WHAT INCIDENTALLY, WERE THEY POWERING THE JBL SUBS/MAINS WITH IN THE THEATRE? MCINTOSH? BRYSTON? CARVER? THERE HAD TO BE A FAN COOLED RACK AROUND THE BACK OF THE SPEAKERS SOMWHERE. THE NICEST COMMERCIAL SOUND IVER HEARD SO FAR WAS IN A CLUB(YEA , I KNOW ITS NOT A THEATRE) WITH A MAMMOTH DANCE FLOOR USING 6 MCM TWIN 15" BASS CABINETS, AND FOUR TWEETER HORN CABINETS POWERED BY 5 HARMAN /KARDON CIT 16 A. 3 OF WHICH WERE BRIDGED TO MONO FOR THE BASS CABINETS. I HAVE YET TO HEAR ANYTHING YET,.THAT CAN THROW OUT THE BASS LIKE THE MCM BOTTOM. THE THX GRAND USES THE MCM BOTTOM I BELEIVE. GREAT SPEAKER. PEACE TO U MAN ROB

Hi BOB I know you guys must break out into a cold sweat,whenever heritage questions come up. Are they still running the custom finishes, eg:rosewood,zebrawood,cherry,oak,walnut ,etc?? Someone mentioned(and it might have been you) that after a certain timepoint they will only be the natural,..or lacquer finish.. also in the corner horns,.. do they still build the 3 cabinet styles,..like they used to or just one "classic" version i think one was a raw version and the other were to furniture versions.. with the top version having the rise at the bottom of the bass cabinet and the split between the HF/LF cabinets.. just curious why? Our house plans are set back till the end of next summer,..and would REALLY like to get a furniture finished set of horns after all,.besides being the musical instrument that they are... they are awesome piece of funiture in the deluxe finishes.. Hope your folks are getting through the backlog as good as can be.! I went through this in the furniture business. merry christmas.... ps Does anyone have a pic on what a Lacquer finshed set of horns look like??? Rob

the Dynaco 400is one that i never hooked up at home. and i worked for a store once that carried all that stuff dynaco,accuphase,harmankardon,marantz,mcintosh phase linear,hafler, and so on ......... was like being in a candy shop ...i guess Have had only one dynaco at home a sca80Q it was my aunts...that i borrowed for a trial. not bad,.. but still prefer the a402 the dynaco sounded bright with my 82 cornwall. will most likely p/u another cit 16/a ,just for the sake of replacing the one that grew legs a few yrs back,..and dissapeered from my living room. as for my favorite amp Its a Mcintosh MC2002. but one thing at a time horns first..... evrything else comes after.... Rob

hi folks Just saw a awesome set of horns on ebay in Mohagany, with cane like grilles I have never seen a set in this finish,. but i can only imagine what they had cost the owner new. By comparison.,..I also see a set of COrnwalls in dark Mohagany...on that same page Man...they don't make em like this anymore A boss of mine,.had a set of horns in rosewood ...just breathtaking *although my oiled walnut cornwall's (CWO) were nice too. enjoy,.. Rob