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  1. 11 minutes ago, RandyH 000 said:

    we never had these problems ,  the trucks that went up and down our streets , and the planes above  in the skies  ,  all day long   ,  drowned any of that noise-


    There was a CTA bus turnaround right across the street, it was always noisy.


    The Supra was a good car, similar to my 82 280 ZX in performance and fuel economy.

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  2. I received a loud stereo ticket right in front of my old apartment in Chicago, cop was a total dick. I had a 1979 Toyota Supra at the time with just the factory stereo dashboard speaker playing. Ticket was not a cheap one either.

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  3. 13 hours ago, EpicKlipschFan said:


    i was asking why you told me to look at the size difference between the 2, they are within ~1" of each other...


    what i buy isnt in question here, i was replying to your initial post about using multiple dayton subs.  


    thanks for the permission to buy what i want, you are also welcome to buy what you want. 


    SVS   Overall Dimensions: 22.5" (H) x 20.5" (W) x 29.9" (D) (with grille)  ---------------------------    13,376.2 Cu In.          


    Dayton   • Dimensions (plastic feet included): 19-3/4" H x 19-1/4" W x 19-3/4" D. -------------   7,508.7 Cu In                


    Just for the record.



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  4. 3 minutes ago, EpicKlipschFan said:


    why? they are about the same size.  now times that by 3-4 multiples as was suggested for the daytons to match the 16 ultra.  my point was multiples & large horn subs arent always practical or possible.


    Nobody said it was a match.


    Feel free to buy what you want.

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  5. 21 minutes ago, EpicKlipschFan said:

    i dont doubt 4 of the daytons would be better... thats 60" of woofer!  but lets be realistic here, quite possible he & many people don't have room for 4 subs based on the dimensions posted.  same for the table tuba subs... looks like they are rather large, 30x30x16 or 60" long for the long style.  plus they need to be built,  not too practical for many people that just want to add a good sub to their system.  & just because SVS mixed up the power cord is no reason to be fed up with them, they will make it right & stand behind their product for many years to come, even after the warranty expires.


    i agree the price is high on most these upper level brands, but SVS has good deals in the discount section & can find them used for less than half the price with transferable warranty.  there are better options out there but size &/or positioning of multiple subs arent for everyone.           


    Look at the size difference between the Dayton & SVS cabinets.




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  6. 2 minutes ago, wuzzzer said:

    Didn't PWK say something like "not all instruments play from the exact same spot on the stage" ?


     Good sales pitch. :emotion-21:


    Time alignment makes a noticeable difference. Horns suffer in this regard.



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  7. 1 hour ago, EpicKlipschFan said:

    the cord is just a standard power cord used on personal computers, cost a few bucks.  SVS customer service is top notch, sounds like a fluke to have the wrong cord sent & the scrathces on the 1st one could have happened in shipping.  either way just buy a new cord locally & im sure SVS will credit you for it & send a new cord.  shoot, they will usually replace amps & woofers out of warranty... try that with klipsch or any other brand subs & they will laugh at you!  


    a 150 watt dayton sub wont come anywhere near the pb16 ultra performance! 


    Multiples will allow better performance.


    More than 10 times the price for an air pusher = better options.

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  8. 10 hours ago, David y said:

    I want great impeccable quality performance with great warranty. Thanks for the suggestion I wonder if they have any quality woofers there. Ima look into it. Just looked into them, I don’t think they have what I’m looking for but thank you. Not expensive enough lol.


    If i was to spend any where near the amount you spent i would recommend something horn loaded.



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  9. On 6/18/2020 at 10:26 AM, EpicKlipschFan said:


    curious why you say the amps will never last a long time?  the reason these amps & many other mass produced amps fail has been identified & when they are repaired they should last for a very, very long time.  when repaired they get all new quality caps & the notorious bad glue that usually causes the failures is removed & replaced with a non conductive silicone. 


    & arent the amps matched to the speakers power level?  i wouldnt call 350 watts rms "weak"...  for the ~$125 price of repair theres no reason not to repair the amp & retain the digital functions of the sub as well as resale value.     


    The inside of the cabinet is a harsh environment for an amplifier but i agree, value plummets not having the OE amplifier. Nobody wants them, parts value really.

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  10. 10 hours ago, Endo said:

    My bad. I thought I'd read everything twice... and I still missed that.


    Still wondering if anyone can speak to Lab 12 in THTLP. vs. Lab 12 in the 'Lab12 Tapped Horn'. The boxes are about ~300 c.i. apart from each other and THTLP has a larger mouth despite its being shorter overall. Just curious. 



    The room dictates response.


    Tapped will generally play a bit lower at the expense of frequencies over 60 Hz or around.


    Tapped horns will have higher distortion numbers in general from the exposed driver


    Going fully horn loaded will benefit from having multiple units unlike any other design.

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  11. 1 hour ago, ClaudeJ1 said:

    If you want to boil things down to a single factor, then it's the horn's 1/4 Wave LENGTH that determines the Low Frequency Cutoff. The Belle and LaScala are both "Short Horns." of about 2.7 feet in length.


    My Quarter Pie bass horn, which fits nicely into a corner is 5 1/2 feet long. So if you take the speed of sound at 1126 feet per second, and divide by 5.5, you get 204.73. Now take 1/4 of that number and you get a horn Cutoff frequency of 51 Hz.....................................a LaScala/Belle is about 1/2 as LONG as a Quarter pie, which makes both of them have a 100 Hz. cutoff.


    An MWM bass bin, patented in the early 80's by Klipsch, is a 6 foot long horn, so it's cutoff is about 47 Hz. This is for full horns with a sealed rear chamber, but the length applies to tapped horns also. I just cut lumber for a 22 ft. long SUPER Tapped Horn, which should go down to 12.8 Hz. or lower when you add ROOM GAIN to all of them.


    Horn length is only part of the equation.

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  12. 33 minutes ago, Endo said:


    Thanks for the comment. Not finding much on Fc... From what I gather, seems the baseline frequency (Fs) shifts upward when the driver is mounted in an enclosure of any kind (including horns?)? So, is it fair to say the Fc is simply an adjustment that happens with cabinets? Now, I am wondering what the Fc is for a Klipschorn?


    I am about to build a dedicated low-frequency cabinet (my first time at this) so, I'm naturally curious. I'll start a new thread.


    Fc is the resonant frequency of a sealed cabinet.

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  13. 10 minutes ago, Endo said:

    [Insert thread hijack warning, here]

    Clearly, I'm missing something here--trying to learn about this stuff.

    If they aren't horns, what are they (?)


    Horns are just direct radiators below fc.

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