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    How much Chinese made product is in the Heritage and Professional lines?

    in General Klipsch Info

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    On 2/9/2021 at 10:55 PM, henry4841 said:

    It is hard to get away from Chinese components in electronic equipment. Most components in crossover networks are made in China, been that way for a number of years. I seriously doubt you will get Klipsch to provide their source for drivers or horns. Apple products are designed in USA and made in China. 

    I do appreciate the economic difficulty of avoiding Chinese made components. Historically, Klipsch has been quite open about where and from whom they get their components. I'm simply looking for an official Klipsch response or at least a response from someone that has verifiable information (or at least inside knowledge - like colterphoto).

    How much Chinese made product is in the Heritage and Professional lines?

    in General Klipsch Info

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    OK. Gotcha. There are a number of true sunshiners about. I was trying to be diplomatic. It took a few goes. You knew what I meant. 😀

     

    I'm simply curious as to the grand total of actual USA produced content. I'm not denigrating the source of whatever is currently installed and supplied.

     

    I posted in the Pro forum to see if Roy would reply. I'll give it some time and if nothing, I'll put it in the special forum for Jube owners. I know Roy reads that one.

    How much Chinese made product is in the Heritage and Professional lines?

    in General Klipsch Info

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    On 2/10/2021 at 2:54 PM, RandyH000 said:

     the Crossover parts are Made in South Korea which is a USA Business Partner -- 

    On 2/10/2021 at 2:51 PM, Panelhead said:

      The Eminence woofers are made here. The Atlas mid drivers are made here. The tweeter is supposedly a Celestion product. Those were UK products. Might still be. 

      The internal wire is Audioquest. Made here.  

      The crossover components mostly likely are the only parts from China. And that may not be entirely true. There is a large resistor company here in Houston. Texas Components. Film caps are easy to make, there may be a domestic maker of the yellow film caps used today. Same with the chokes. It is a coil of wire.

     

     

    Thanks. Most useful replies in the thread. Regarding the south Korea manufacture, how do you know this, RandyH000?

     

    I know the Heritage bins are made in Hope. I don't have any information on the Professional gear's bins. I suspect Hope. Suspect.

    all about that bass...

    in Subwoofers

    Posted · Edited by laager

     

     

     

    Maybe one fine day Klipsch will produce a truly deep horn loaded sub to complement their cinema line. Nothing stopping them but plain economics... However, should that day ever come, I'll be a buyer.

     

    They already do, the 1802...

    No, the 1802 only digs down to barely acceptable Hz levels. 26Hz @ +/- 3dB isn't remotely competitive with other horn or tapped horns, let alone the DD-18s. For music, sure. Great. However, for HT, it's a non starter.

     

    Sorry, but, complementing their CINEMA LINE, is what I was addressing.

     

    It's not truly deep. It's just a common sub. Not even a deep sub.

     

    Just because THX doesn't specify down to the sub 10Hz levels doesn't mean it's not there in a soundtrack. So, talking about THX spec is meaningless and pointless when it comes to HT, which even you further allude to. So, I'm really not sure who you're arguing with. Me, or yourself.

     

     

    1802 are very much STARTERS for home theater. 

     

    The specs are comparable specs (similar environment). So,Unless it's sub 10Hz they are non starters for me. Praise them all you like. I can hit lower, louder and harder with smaller. I'd like horn but the 1802s just aren't in the running.

     

    I support the horn loaded argument. I'm simply saying it's not practical for HT with current offerings when you want a fair and reasonable space allocation for the sub(s).

    all about that bass...

    in Subwoofers

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    The Jube, in most rooms gets weaker below 60 Hz. so you may as well use a tapped horn there instead and REALLY keep the IMD low.

     

     

    I'd love to go horn loaded (or even tapped horn) on the very deep bottom end but the size of the subs becomes ridiculous. I run a pair of DD-18s and I can make the windows nearly fall out of their frames at under 10Hz without even running them at maximum. As for accuracy, well, I don't think anyone really has just cause to complain about the Velodyne Digital Drive system. As tight as any serious horn loaded sub I've ever heard (which really isn't many). The DD-18s are huge but compared to any horn loaded sub that can dig as deep, accurately and loud, they are tiny.

     

    Maybe one fine day Klipsch will produce a truly deep horn loaded sub to complement their cinema line. Nothing stopping them but plain economics... However, should that day ever come, I'll be a buyer.

     

    They already do, the 1802...

    No, the 1802 only digs down to barely acceptable Hz levels. 26Hz @ +/- 3dB isn't remotely competitive with other horn or tapped horns, let alone the DD-18s. For music, sure. Great. However, for HT, it's a non starter.

    all about that bass...

    in Subwoofers

    Posted · Edited by laager

    The Jube, in most rooms gets weaker below 60 Hz. so you may as well use a tapped horn there instead and REALLY keep the IMD low.

     

     

    I'd love to go horn loaded (or even tapped horn) on the very deep bottom end but the size of the subs becomes ridiculous. I run a pair of DD-18s and I can make the windows nearly fall out of their frames at under 10Hz without even running them at maximum. As for accuracy, well, I don't think anyone really has just cause to complain about the Velodyne Digital Drive system. As tight as any serious horn loaded sub I've ever heard (which really isn't many). The DD-18s are huge but compared to any horn loaded sub that can dig as deep, accurately and loud, they are tiny.

     

    Maybe one fine day Klipsch will produce a truly deep horn loaded sub to complement their cinema line. Nothing stopping them but plain economics... However, should that day ever come, I'll be a buyer.

    Klipsch KPT-1802-HLS Horn Subwoofer

    in Klipsch Pro Audio

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    Is there a frequency response graph for this sub anywhere? 26Hz +/- 3dB is pretty solid but not enough to cope with a lot of LFE out there. I'm quite interested in what it can do below that and the graph would give some indication.

    I can see where we would all be curious about this. Just keep in mind that for THX theaters, going much below 25 Hz. is not part of the specification. Whereas, with the advent of all the tapped horns out there and the HT guys that dig down to single digit sub sub bass, I do get the reasoning behind your question.

    I'm wanting to convert to horns on the sub but with 2 x DD-18, it's difficult to find a suitable substitute. The DD-18s aren't the best but they are (in tandem) PDG (Pretty Damn Good) and in tandem will provide very solid single digit levels. However, it's more the 15-25Hz range I'm interested in. There's a lot in that range that's worth listening to, err, feeling. I do appreciate that a great many folks don't realise what's there, but believe me, it is, and I want it.

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