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Thinking I'd like to try a Heresy for a center. Rather than hunt around for an older used pair, I might just step it up to the IV. Found a dealer for around $1200 new, and while that's not terrible. I thought I'd check here too, just incase. Tampa/st. Pete area

These are sold. Hate when people can't take down their ad.

I think I posted them several months ago

Wouldn't mind one of these to try as a center. But I'm getting error when trying to get their contact numbers. Sent an email just incase.

I haven't looked into bi-amping with the tube amp, although its only 8 W and my other amp is a 5x200 monolith, so probably not a good match for bi-amping. But I did come across Home Theater bypass, and maybe a way to hook up the tube amp as a power amp out of the Onkyo. But wondering if that's really complicating the issue way beyond what I should be.

FWIW, I emailed HSU and asked them about their thoughts about using 2 subs, hooked up both to the HT and Music systems at the same time. one issue is that some AVR's sent out impedance on the RCA sub out even when they are off. So if you were using the tube amp in the "music" system via high level inputs on the sub and the volume was low, you'd simple need to disconnect the RCA from the subs and everything should act normal. Also would need to engage the sub crossover when listening via high level music system, but maybe turn off the crossover on the sub when in HT mode and let the AVR do its thing. they also said dual VTF-15H might or might not be enough low end, depending on volume levels you listen to.

yeah, I guess I just need to step back and think what I want. I have so many options spinning around in my head its becoming overwhelming and stressful. It bothers me not having a set plan and definite path forward. You are right, my original "HT" system (Onkyo RZ50, Klipsch RF-7iii, RC-64iii and RP-600m) would probably play 2 channel music just fine. There are pure audio and direct modes you can play around with to take the AVR processing out the mix if you really want. But I had my heart set on tubes for the 2 channel music. Will I hear a difference? Very well I may not but I REALLY wanted to have a 2 channel system with a nice set of tubes to look at. One option, I suppose, I sell the Klipsch reference premiere speakers and just go with Heritage for all of the speakers (LS II for the main and perhaps heresy for center and rears?) and then if I keep the AVR, I can go with a couple nice subs and call it a day with just 1 system. Maybe its the 2nd separate music system that's causing the issue. Maybe its the tube amp with no sub out. Maybe its both, I'm not exactly sure at this point. Meanwhile, the Willsenton R300 int amp was delivered yesterday and is just sitting in the box. Part that surprises me the most is that the tube amp seems to be the issue as many are pointing out. I thought these had been around for so long I figured there was no issue at all buying something without bass management or rca out

I emailed Rythmik and described my room and situation and they didn't think they have anything that will work. I was a little shocked. They have their $1500 15" F15HP that does have a high level input option but the guy that responded to me didn't think 2 of these would be enough in my room. Someone on AVS posted that they use some REL subs with separate music and HT systems. They have RCA and high level inputs hooked up at the same time. I liked that idea and it would really simplify just to have 2 nice subs total, but then someone else chimed in that they thought it'd be a bad idea to do that. It's never simple....I have no idea which way to go.

My room is 21x28 so fairly good size. But I guess it all depends on who you are talking to. There are definitely guys with four 21's in rooms smaller than mine. In fact, GSG just launched some nice looking 24's.

LaScala II's

The GSG guys are recommending 21's! But I wanted to do the 18 cubes to keep the height under my screen

I think I was trying to say they only have high level in (and not out). I may have thought that high level and line level were the same interchangeable terms. But yes, high level out would be nice but doesn't seem to be the end of the world. I hope the Willsenton wasn't a mistake not having the rca sub out. The other int amp I was kinda eyeing was the VT70 from LSA and that did have a sub out but I really wanted to try the 300b

I have no idea, just looking to see how others have added subs into their 2 channels setups. This'll be my first tube amp and 2 channel setup. I looked at a few of the minidsp products and didn't see any with speaker line level connections.

I am planning on the MiniDSP for the home theater setup with two 18's but wonder if this is overkill on the 2 channel system. Spend all this money on tubes and then add in DSP? And I'm not even sure if MiniDSP can work via line level inputs and outputs?

1 sub would be easier for placement, although I still have issue #1 above (or maybe its not a concern) But maybe I just upsize the single sub and just hope its enough in my room. I guess that's the whole problem here is the lack of any sort of bass management? Everyone with 2 channel setup just runs a single sub?

Hi all, I have a Willsenton R300 integrated amp coming today and was reading up on adding subs. As there are no sub outs on this amp (but multiple speaker outs of varying resistance), I think I would have to rely on high level line connections. I think hooking up 1 sub is pretty straightforward but I have always read that multiple subs will help even out the bass response in the room. 1. The subs I am looking at (HSU ULS15 or Rythmik F15HP) only have line level in, so I think you need to run a connection from the amp to the speaker and then another run from the amp to the sub. So the crossover on the sub takes care of the sub output, but then the speakers are getting full range. Is that an issue? Usually, I'd think you'd have a high pass filter, but without a line level out of the sub, I'm not exactly sure if this is a concern or not. 2. On another forum, it was suggested to hook up the left speaker outs to the left sub and the right speaker out to the right sub, but I'm concerned this is not the proper way to integrate multiple subs into a 2 channel setup. I think you'd want both L and R to both subs but man, that's a lot of speaker wire out of our speaker outs on the amp.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/6091176010916589/?mibextid=dXMIcH If I needed another project, maybe I'd try them.

Looks like the GSG full Marty. I'm going with the 18" cubes myself https://shop.gsgad.com/

Yes, finally! Picked up @michaelwjones set a few weeks ago. Found a cheap one way direct flight and then after listening for an hour or so. got them packed up and loaded into a rented Excursion and headed back to Tampa with a quick overnight stop in Macon. Been playing around with them vs my rf7iii's. The LS sound "wider" and def play louder at the same AVR settings when switching back and forth. Need to work on placement and room treatments still but enjoying them so far. I also want to decide if I keep the rf7iii as a separate home theater and gaming system or sell them and use LS for the only mains. The set in Tampa have some unfortunate scratches. If you can get by that or perhaps figure how to repair, what a deal that is.

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Wow, what a crazy price if you can deal with some scratches. These are like 5 min away from me

have you seen this one? I skimmed thru and don't think I saw it mentioned. https://www.stereophile.com/content/lsa-vt-70-integrated-amplifier seems like a pretty good value at $1299 to dip someone's toes in

welcome @IowaFightFan

yeah, I was thinking sales or alerts. not sure how often people are looking for something like this so I just threw it out there. not sure how well stickies work, though and if people just look at the new posts

not my ad, let me see if I can find it again for you edit: I found the post, still seems to be there, I asked how someone can contact him