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considering the fact where i came from, logitech is just another common product brand. even if it is THX certified, it is not going to sell well enough. talking about klipsch is even worse. promedia is nearly non-existance here in malaysia. anyway, considering the amount of money i am going to pay for a logitech, i will still go for the promedia. i have read the initial review on the z-560 in 3dsoundsurge. it is impressive alright. but it doesn't say anything that it will blow the promedia away. performance (sound quality in certain fields) is very very close to the promedia or on par or even slightly better. but it still comes down to the buyer. do you want to spend USD 199 on logitech or USD 299 on promedia???? or wait for creative megawork 510D estimated to a USD500? of course looking down at the price, logitech is a good buy. but i see no specs on thos speakers yet and i am waiting for someone to review the set , open up the mdf woofer cabinet, and see what's inside. . i have open up my promedia 4.1 to look at inside. .. nice layout and good enough components and i have found the source of all the heat perhaps its time for some more thermal paste.

yo justin, may i know what u mean by speakers upgrades?

pioneer 16x has 2 version 1) DVD-116 tray version, 16x dvd, 40x cd, ata66, 256kb buffer but no digital out, oem version, slightly cheaper 2) DVD-A06s slot version, 16x dvd, 40x cd, ata66, 256kb buffer with digital out, full retail with box. i recommend both, but depends on what version u like

don't need to unplugg. if your sub is warm .. then should not be a problem. mine is warm too..

hmm. this is a very volatile topic to talk about anyway.. first of all, it depends on a person's budget, then his taste and preferences, then what type of system he has .. and his environment.. hmm. mission, i guessed that is a hifi brand speakers. should be a UK brand and bought over by DENON. saw the mission speakers in the website of DENON. but speakers are very subjective to a person's preferences... for example, u might not like the sound of mission speakers, i might like it.. and of course, the system involved also plays a major parts of giving the sound a characteristic of its own martin logan is very very expensive at its high end model, not mistaken at US 85000 a pair of its electrostatics speakers. i have not heard the sound but its has a class of its own.. it is not for us to say whether it is good or not.... but one thing for certain, the quality will be there. hmm. btrigg, are u refering to an article based on Wilson Audio Watts & puppy speakers??? expensive speakers too... but very nicely done... as i said before, this high end speakers makers produced speakers that have class own their own.. so the same pair speakers might sound different on a different system.

justine.. i went to your link and saw the 1000 watt pmpo speakers... it might threaten even the klipsch synergy legend series. hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha

yo storm i don't think u can compare your martinlogan with klipsch.... .. totally cannot be compare as they are from different classes.. so no need to say anything.

Hey REM... i agreed with doomsday.. i understand how u feel about the promedia malfunction when u run it.........BUT... about the malaysian thing, i was just trying to tell u that warranty issues will take some time to solve or to be clear... i am just trying to tell u to stay cool despite the frustration and dissapointment.. just send it for warranty then u will find out the truth.... in this way, u will get a new promedia and please.. think properly before u put out a reply. REM, some of your statements are really irrelevant to the topic we are discussing ... read properly before reply

please go to www.3dsoundsurge.com for an article that was written to compare between sirocco and promedia v2-400. and read that and u r going to have some ideas how they performed against each other. please remember that the promedia is the older version. enjoy reading.

some will tell u sirocco.. some will tell u promedia 4.1 it be quite an endless debate... and the comparison will be affected by a lot of factors.. e.g the environment, the audience, the type of music, and bla bla bla.... so hard to compare but i can tell u, both speakers are goood...

i think u better write to the amy platt from promedia tech. anyway.. mine don't have the random noises .. my headphone jack works just fine... and do u mine to describe your problems?? what type of random noises??? and when u plug in your headphone jack, make sure u mute your speakers.. u have to mute your speakers. or else, u will think that the headphone doesn't work. cos promedia doesn't act like a midi hifi where once u plug in your headphone, it will automatically mute the whole system ..

not mistaken, the satellites for quintex are made of wood or something like that, while the promedia's satellites are from plastic (if that's what klispch called them) anyway, quintext comes with ksw-10 sub with mosfet . i think definitely it will sounds better...

if u want to get a better HT system, there are better ones than quintex.. in hometheater... , quintex is only average.... even the review say so... there are other brands better than that.... at the end,,, the question will come back to " how much money are u willing to spend on your system" buying promedia 4.1 does solve your problems but not really neccessary to purchase promedia 5.1 and it also based on what u really want. .. but u cannot compare the promedia to actual HT system out there from different manufacturers....

i agreed.. that's why i jumped on paradigm.. u cannot compare to a different class .. HT paradigm compare to a promedia 4.1. cost and different class ... if a person use the HT system for pc.. he/she needs a receiver again...... and definitely it will be much better than promedia..... and the cost.. so i am happy to have the promedia.. cos i don't think i can justify the cost of my speakers to be too expensive... when compare to my entire computer system. i have no problem hooking up a amp with my computer. i have a sony va80es receiver... surrounds speakers.. but all those cables and the space.... anyway.. i LOVE promedia 4.1

i praised Amy because she gives me quite a fast reply and i am happy. PERIOD. i don't think u can aspect all this replacement issue to be settle in a week or so.. try IBM harddisk in malaysia..... 2 months at least..for replacement. and we have master distributor again in malaysia...... just cool man and Don't simply ask us to go and search for girlfriend..... why u want to put an irrelevant subject here just because u r dissapointed?? i am just trying to help here....