BobbyT

I'm really leaning toword the RF7-RC7 combo now. But I really like the i link, usb input, and mcacc on the Pioneer. Plus I'm very happy with the Pioneer 45A I've been using, the 59AVI would just be so much better. Do you guys think the Pioneer will be strong enough to push the RF7s at least while I'm still in my smaller room? Then when we move later if I find myself with a larger room I could add an amp. I know TKD will say yes but what about the rest of you guys. I do have a great relationship with my Klipsch dealer. When I first started to go from synergy to reference they gave me full retail on trade in for my synergy despite thier age. And started giving me discounts on top of that. I think the guy I deal with is just as excited for me to get this new system as I am and not just cause of a big sale.

One more quick thought on the B&K. It is upgradeable for future surround formats.

---------------- On 3/28/2005 1:31:41 PM colterphoto1 wrote: Hey Bobby, totally confused yet? What's the latest thought process? Michael ---------------- Confused doesn't begin to cover it. And here I thought after 2 years of narrowing it down this post would have produced a clear winner. I have 2 thoughts going right now. 1 like MR Mcgoo just said, keeping everything digital lessens the need for the LR mains to produce bass because the Pioneer with i link will redirect it to the sub. And if I get the RSW15 this should be seamless. So 5 RB75s or 4 RB75s with RC7 and RSW15 I think would sound phenomenol letting the Pioneer do bass management, time alignment, and eqing. The other thought is to concentrate on just the front speakers and electronics and change surrounds when the time comes to move. This would be the B&K with the 3910 connected via analog for music. And 2 RF7s with a RC7 and probably a SVS sub for movies. I'd use the subs in the RF7s for bass on music. And then when I move space permitting bring out the RF3-II for surround. So I guess I'm right back where I started. One other thought is the RF7s would be safer since I have a 2 yr old.

Thanks for all of the replies so far. It's given me a lot to think about. Which is why I'm asking now instead of right before I buy.

I do have a rough budget with a little room to play. I did have a lot of room to play but I decided to buy a nice set of wheels and tires for my car . I have a lot more CDs than anything else right now. But after I have the new system I am planning on getting more SACDs, concert DVDs, and DVDAs if dualdisc doesn't put an end to them. I'm also going to hook up an Apple airport express for internet radio. That is another plus for the Pioneer as it has a usb input for streaming music from a computer. If I don't get the Pioneer setup I will need a universal player with good dacs and good bass management. I'm in Louisville, Ky. Now that I think about it I believe we talked over this past Christmass about seeing the Trans Siberian Orchesta.

---------------- On 3/27/2005 6:23:04 PM tkdamerica wrote: It sounds like you are close to having your mind made up. ---------------- I could only wish. All of the responses now have me rethinking different options. I've actually been working on this,researching and listening, for almost 2 years to get to this point. I have a 2 week vacation scheduled at the beginning of August during which I plan to buy, set up, and tweak my new system. Mr McGoo one more question. I read your system profile, most impressive by the way, and saw that you run RS7s and RS3s. How do those sound on multi channel SACD and DVDA? I thought bookshelves would be better but I must admit that I do like the sound with my RS3s.

I did some number crunching and if I go with choice 1 I could also get a RSW 15 instead of the PC Ultra. Does anyone know which would be better for music. Movies are important but not as important as music accuracy. Also my Klipsch dealer carries the Paradigm Servo 15 but I don't have any experience with it.

Mr McGoo some questions. What amp are you using to drive your RF7s? Is thier a difference in sound in multichannel since you are using an outboard amp and the Pioneer's amps? And the one that holds me up on RF7s, If using the Pioneer setup with i link, mcacc, and a good sub, wouldn't the RF7s be not used to thier full potential even with a good outboard amp?

I assumed the amps in the 507 would handle the RF7s dips. Your replies to some of my other posts are what led me to the Pioneer i link setup. I could look at the 56Txi-59Avi combo with a B&K 2 ch amp paired with RF7s and a RC7. I may not have enough room in my current house for RF7s . But I'm not afraid to squeeze them in .

After reading through that thread about the 3910 It doesn't look so good anymore.

Thanks for the reply. I meant to write the Denon 3910 instead of the 2910 and have edited my first post to the 3910. I don't have room for rear towers. We are moving in about a year but I won't know if I'll have room for rear towers until then. I figure nice Bookshelves like the 35s and 75s are a safer bet. I have RF3-IIs that will be stored in thier boxes when I upgrade. If I find myself with the room for rear towers in the future I can always pull them back out .

I'm getting closer to buying a new system and I have a couple of ideas of how I'd like to go. Could you guys tell me which would sound better. I'd guess at 85% music and 15% movies. I listen to multi channel SACD, DVDA, concert DVDs, and 2 channel CDs. I'm not wanting to get into seperates. choice 1-5 RB75s 2 RS3s(I already have these) SVS PC Ultra or Klipsch RSW 15 Pioneer Elite 56Txi receiver Pioneer Elite 59Avi DVD connected via i link choice 2-2 RF7s 1 RC7 2 RB35s 2 RS3s SVS PC Ultra B&K 507-2 receiver Denon 3910 DVD Does anyone know how good the bass management on the Denon 3910 is for SACD and DVDA? Edited:I initially put the Denon 2910 DVD but I meant to put the 3910 and added RSW 15 to system 1

Still no i link except on the Z9. Looks like I'll be switching to Pioneer Elite.

Music Match is a good one and so is Itunes.

Metallica S&M is also very good

I've had both. Both companies make great products as does Pioneer Elite. I picked Yamaha because that's the sound I preferred. I'll probably be switching to Pioneer Elite for an ilink tup this summer. I guess the point I'm trieing to make is that one is not any better than the other. They just have a different sound on music playback. HK and Onkyo also make fine products. To add to cornwalled's comment. I kept the Yamamha because I also thought it had a smoother sound.

---------------- On 3/3/2005 4:30:53 PM rick88 wrote: I am a huge fan of hers! If you enjoyed the show you must pick up the DVD Alison Krauss & Union Station Live. It has state of the art picture and sound quality! Enjoy. ---------------- I have this on SACD. It's amazing.

Go to www.cdbaby.com and type Norah Jones in the search. It will spit out a list of artits with a similar sound. And you can listen to demos on the website before buying.

Trans Siberian Orchestra-Christmass Eve and Other Stories The Lost Christmass Eve Dream Theater-Images and Words

Any word on if they are adding i link to any of the new receivers?

just a play on words

---------------- On 2/4/2005 1:14:02 AM toddvj wrote: Well, no that's not it. At least in the case of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure & Bogus Journey (I guess I did have a couple), the DVDs fill the Widescreen TV. I still think maybe the the top and bottom are cropped from the fullscreen version. Anyway, some lawyers will be getting rich off of this one. ---------------- You just described pan and scam. Anyway I saw a short report on the abc morning news about the lawsuit and they reported all of the titles are pan and scam.

---------------- On 2/3/2005 9:10:30 PM m00n wrote: 5150? Really? I think 5150 is by far their worst recording. Well, between David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar era. ---------------- 5150 has some great songs and I think it flows good as a whole album. Not just a CD with a couple of good songs on it.

From what I understand all of the movies on that list are pan and scam but sold as widescreen.

---------------- On 2/3/2005 5:58:17 PM tpg wrote: ---------------- On 2/3/2005 5:33:59 PM BobbyT wrote: Van Halen 5150 ---------------- THANK YOU!! I was really worried because I had not seen a single mention of Van Halen in the entire thread. I'd vote for anything VH (though would lean probably towards 5150 or 1984 for '80's era if I had to choose) ---------------- 1984 is an awesome album. But on 5150 Van Halen hit a major growth spurt musically.