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On 4/1/2022 at 6:01 PM, Tom05 said:
Lascala’s look sweet ,they look like a serious no nonsense piece of equipment,
and that’s just what they are. Nice looking room🤓
I agree and thanks.
That said, CW's look pretty cool also.
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I agree with the suggestion for restoration above, but having said that, all of them are very good receivers and once properly refreshed should sound great with the LS's. If if had to choose one, I'd go with the 4100.
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While I've reached my personal gear mountain top at age 65 by being able to presently own McIntosh MC30's, MC225 and MC240 and want for nothing more(well, ok, maybe a second 225), I've owned several Decware's in the past, both amps and preamp/headphone amps, and I was never disappointed with either the products or service. Both top notch. I can heartily agree with everything stated here about the company. When I was buying from them the wait time was only about a month, and I'm not sure I'd want to wait 5-6 months for an amp at this point, but I have no doubt that those that do won't be disappointed.
2 hours ago, jimjimbo said:Apparently, they aren't missing many sales opportunities if hundreds of people are willing to wait a year. Scroll though the real time build sheets and see that folks from all over the world are ordering. I have no problem waiting for a unit that is a very high quality build, has a lifetime warranty, has excellent options to customize for whatever a customer would like, and where the owner of the company will actually take the time to speak with you on the phone, or via email. I spoke with Steve for over a half hour before I ordered where I described my room acoustics, my speakers, music choices, etc, etc. and he was more than willing to listen and make a recommendation.
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Like everything in this hobby trust your ears and compare as much as possible. I replaced the original cans/crossovers in my ‘77 La Scala’s with new Crites crossovers w/ Sonicaps. Listened to them for about a month and didnt have any serious issue with them. Then one day decided to swap back in the originals and after just a few minutes I knew I preferred them. It’s hard to say why other then to my ears with my gear in my room they just sound right. When I bought the LS’s from a friend several months ago he had tested them and they were within spec according to him. I have no way to test them myself but it’s irrelevant to me. I’ve been doing this audio thing for over 50 years and learned that while I respect the opinion of others particularly those with more technical know how then me, and use those opinions to establish some baselines in what gear might be right for me ultimately, when I can I try to compare as much as possible to choose what makes me want to listen the most. And in this case the original caps do.
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29 minutes ago, Islander said:
It’s been said here a few times that a pair of La Scalas plus a good sub can sound better than a pair of Klipschorns, plus you don’t need “Khorn corners”, which many homes don’t have. The downside is that the Scala+sub setup takes up more floor space. Many people (including me) can live with that.
I'll take them without the sub and settle for as good as Khorns. Ok, maybe not quite as good. 😁
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7 hours ago, RandyH said:
The AK6 , and AK5 have enclosed backs khorns , that no longer need proper corners as that allows for toe in -any khorn can be converted to have enclosed backs -
- one could always place a non enclosed back khorn anywhere in the room using false corners -
- enclosed backs khorns can also be placed in corners
The newer Khorns mentioned are pretty much out of my price range, and messing around with mods like fake corners is more then I want to pursue unless it's a deal too good to pass up.
And even then, they would have to be pretty dang outstanding to better what I already get from my LS's, which, BTW, I and wife love the way they look and they seem made for my room .
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Would love Khorns but don't have proper corners, plus none are available locally. But adore my '77 LS's. I firmly believe that what you feed them really affects what comes out of them. McIntosh MC225 or MC30's really sound incredible through them, and they certainly deliver enough bottom end for my enjoyment with those amps.
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18 hours ago, scalawag said:
Hmm. I have the CT-120 tweeters mounted to Dave's wood MAHLs and to my ears they already sound smoother compared to the K77s. Would I realize any additional audio "enhancement" by performing the mod you suggest? Searching this Forum the consensus is that there would be no harm in bypassing the diodes with the BC tweeters I am using, but I suppose I could confirm this by emailing B Crites....
I noticed a not insignificant difference when I disconnected the diodes. Much smoother to my ears.
FWIW when I got new crossovers from Crites for my '77 LS's, I ordered the A's without the speaker protection diodes based on their recommendation. I let the crossovers break in with the Sonicaps, and I like them well enough, but the other day I swapped back in the originals with the oil caps, and I still like them better.
To each their own.
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Break in is complete on the Crites' A X/O's. They sound quite excellent, and the combination of the LS's with either the MC225 or MC30's is outrageously great. Every owner of these speakers should have a chance at some point to hear them with these amps. I'm sure there are many other great combo's, but I'm good with what I have.
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1 minute ago, billybob said:
Yes...
Ditto.
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1 minute ago, Westcoastdrums said:
USHIP, they'll get there safe and reasonably priced....
Don't need/want them badly enough to trust shipping. Would want to seem/hear them first.
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I'd buy those in a second if they were close to me. GLWTS they're gorgeous.
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1 hour ago, mungkiman said:
These were made in the spirit of a Klipsch Shorthorn and offer a passing resemblance, but, other than that, there is nothing Klipsch about these. Not even the cabinets.
But, if they sound good and you like the price...
They're local and look interesting, and seemed kind of rare. But I don't need another pair of speakers, unless a nice pair of Khorns show up in the same area. But thought I'd try to get the skinny on these as I've never seen a pair.
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Are these the real deal, and are they worth picking up?
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ele/d/walnut-creek-klipsch-shorthorn-speakers/7453072829.html
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Got that 225 today. The MC30's a couple months back.
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26 minutes ago, KT88 said:
So Mcintosh is some kind of new currency?😎
And a lot more fun then crypto!😏
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1 hour ago, henry4841 said:
I like those can type motor run capacitors for woofer to mid crossover, the kind PWK used. For mid tweet crossover I am using those NOS Russian PIO sealed caps. One can do better I am sure but you can also do much worse as well. The cost is not that great using the ones mentioned. Not sure about finding those sealed Russian PIO ones at this turbulent time though.
I like them also but ultimately caps are way down on my list of sonic priorities. As long as my ears aren’t telling me they’re awful and I know they’re up to spec I’m ok with them.
After putting the A/Sonicaps back in yesterday I can confirm that they easily meet the above criteria for me to enjoy them. Today they’ll get to play with the latest addition to the family , a McIntosh MC225 which never sounds less then great anyway.
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I’m in Oakland. I own 77 LS’s and also a pair of 77 CW’a. And yet…
Pls somebody buy them and get me out of this.
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7 minutes ago, KT88 said:
Just my 2 cents. I have Crites xovers that can be switched from type A to type AA. From my point of view, it is the different circuitry that makes a big difference, not the capacitors. Since I can change over, the components, including the capacitors, remain the same. I don't like these sonicaps at all with the K400 and K77. They don't become more acceptable to my ears even after 40 years of continuous playing. I have fitted my Crites xovers with polyester caps instead.
But regardless of that, the AA circuit allows for much more speech intelligibility. At medium volumes, the AA sounds better. At very low volumes, the Type A xover has the slight advantage of a very organic sound. But somehow everything sounds a bit artificially prettified and less clear at the same time.
Point taken. I'm glad I bought the A's to at least being able to compare. As I indicated, I'll listen to them for a few weeks and then decide which way I want to go. Keep them in there, change to the AA's with original caps, or maybe even replace their caps with polyester or something else.
It's all good.
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15 minutes ago, henry4841 said:
Not surprised by that statement. If someone is happy with the sound they have why fix it. Nothing wrong though with those willing to spend the money just to satisfy some curiosity. That is exactly what I have done building over 30 amplifiers.
On the other hand...
It's fair to say that I really didn't give the new caps an even chance. The old caps have had 45 years(at least!) and while I don't hold to the convention that they require changing because they're old, I do think that what I'm hearing in the new caps is going to change, and to be honest they sound pretty good right out of the box as I indicated when I first put the new crossovers in .
So I've put the Type A's back in and am going to leave them there until at least the end of the month before I do anymore judging. At that point if I decided to swap in the old one's again, I should have at least a couple hundred hours on the new one's and that should tell me if they're going to stay or not.
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8 minutes ago, billybob said:
Well, do what you think best.
Not trying to make more work for you...just chiming when in doubt.
Not at all I appreciate your advice very much. That's why I made the post, to see what reactions I would get. I go back and forth with this stuff and while I trust my ears, I also realize that sometimes I need to forego instant pleasure for the payoff that having a little more patience brings.
It's easy enough to swap the Type A's back in, and that's what I'm going to do.
3 minutes ago, henry4841 said:Doubt it has to do with network and more to do with new caps. Not a significant difference between the two.
I agree. My post was confusing. I realize it's the sound of the old caps that I like.
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3 minutes ago, billybob said:
Thinking you need to let your new crossovers a little more time, about a week or less or more to form. There is a debate however, between those that believe in capacitor burnin and those that do not.
From my experience, something came together for me after a few days, hours in.
jmlo...thanks.
Yes I've been thinking that a couple days is not enough time. I only wish I didn't like the AA's as much as I do. But you're right, and I'll get the A's back in there shortly to give them more time.
FWIW I do believe in cap break in.
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Today I decided to put the original AA's back in to see if I could hear much difference, and much to my surprise I could. And I liked the AA's quite a bit more. There is nothing really wrong with the new crossovers, but the originals have more richness, more soul, more color. They just sound more real to me. So I'm going to leave them in there for now.
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Minimum Room Size for La Scalas?
in General Klipsch Info
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I've had to move things around since reinserting my Allison One's back into the main system. Optimum placement for them is against a wall, and the only wall to place them against in my living room is where the La Scala's had been. So those now have been moved out to the center of the room. About 10 feet from the listening position, about 5 1/2 feet apart in the picture, but I can move them another 1 1/2 feet apart when I'm using them. I keep them like this to be able to lessen any obstruction to the Allison's.
Driven by my McIntosh MC225, of course they still sound great. What surprised me somewhat is that the bass has seemingly increased which surprised me. I'll have to get used to them placed like this, but assuming my wife is ok with it(and over 26+ years she is pretty much ok with any of this nonsense) there they will stay until I figure out something better. I have a second, smaller bedroom system but I have a pair of Cornwalls in there already, and that system just doesn't get used much and I want to be able to use my LS's, along with my A1's and AR3's(on top of the Allison's) as much as possible. I love them all.