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I missed this! Thanks @Madman1 Please do keep me in mind.

That is kind of what I was thinking about the KG4's. Both on the upgrade and as a "good starter option." Very nice to get confirmation I'm looking to sell a CR2020, it doesn't seem rich enough to my ears for my Chorus IIs. And apparently it is so much effort to recap that it has to be your ultimate item to do so.

Would you consider shipping?

My brother-in-law just spent a week with us and after listening to upgraded Klipsch Chorus IIs all week long on vintange Sansui and Marantz gear, he has gotten the bug and is looking to acquire that sound for himself. I told him to find Quartets or Fortes first as, Chorus are both larger and more expensive than he wants to start with. I live in Raleigh and can drive ~ 150 miles to get them, and he lives in Knoxville and can do the same. Crited or not would be fine; if they aren't, he will do so. As an aside, he is also looking for a Sansui 5000x or 7070. Doesn't have to be recapped, but must work with clean faceplates and minimal marring to cases. If you have or know of some, please let me know! Also, just a question. How would KG4's compare in sound quality to Forte II's? Similar? Thanks in advance!

Those are beautiful speakers and great price! I sold my Forte IIs when I got my Chorus IIs. I did not realize at the time that I was allowed to have both...

That was a fun read!

Anyone with thoughts on https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis9cgii-audio-research-ls7-tube-preamp-w-extra-tubes-tube and MAC275/Khorn? AudioResearch LS7

Wow, that is beautiful piece!

Thanks for the suggestions @Tom Mobley and @Dawson's Ridge. I think my father is interested in going with a tube pre-amp. The Audioclassics was a nice site. Thanks for pointing me that direction.

My father has klipschorns driven by a Mac 275 and a Rotel preamp. The Rotel does not sound that great with the amp and horns, so I started doing some research. I've read the best pairing is the Mac C220, but that is quite a bit more than he wants to spend (best used I could find was ~ 3k). I was trying to get some input into other options to pair with this system that were < 2k.

I offered him 2500; he said he wouldn't dip below 3000, so I didn't haggle, as that was a couple hundred more than I was willing to give after seeing them. They are nice, but right cabinet is "good", not excellent. Left is excellent.

I went and demo'd them with my Outlaw (wasn't willing to box up the Marantz for it). They sounded pretty great even with crappy placement (3 inches from corners, 4 inches off floor and 30 feet apart with shallow listening area). Right cabinet was not in excellent shape and he wasn't quite ready to let go of them, so we didn't come to an agreement, but maybe someday Thanks to all for their input!

Thanks for all the quick responses and advice. I have the most awesome wife that is actually encouraging me to get them. Second question. Current Receivers are a Marantz 2270, fully refurbished/capped, and a new Outlaw 2160. I prefer the Marantz unless I really want to listen loud. Thoughts on how those two would sound with these speakers? I know the Khorns are extremely efficient, but would these be enough power for good bass response?

What kind of work (if any) would be needed to get these to spec? I did Crites crossover upgrade to my Chorus IIs and the results were well worth it.

I do like Oak. My chorus II's are what look to be same finish. They were posted 6 days ago on CL.

Buying. Asking is $3200, only 15minutes away.

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For what is listed in the title with no upgrades, what would be the price range for excellent, no visible cabinet defects? Trying to see if I should go see a CL offer. With consecutive serial numbers and oak finish/black fabric grills.

Thanks @veloceleste. I was kind of thinking the same thing. I've NEVER heard vintage sound through my Chorus IIs. I'm paying him for his time to come over with a 2226b and the 2270, both fully restored to see what those sound like. Then heading to listen to some of the choices I listed above on some forte III's in a local audio store. I'm hoping the forte III's will be similar enough to my Crited Chorus IIs to compare without having to take home.

I have access to a fully restored, capped, cleaned, bench tested 83 watts per channel before clipping pristine Marantz 2270 for 1500.....I'm torn in spending that much money. Listening tomorrow.

I should add that the kind of music I listen to is somewhat eclectic and that I'm in the very early stages of educating myself about amps, preamps, discrete vs. integrated, tubes etc... I've always just been a run of the mill Onkyo, Yamaha, Denon AVR type with a deep appreciation for Klipsch since my Forte II's (1995 through last year) and now Chorus IIs that I bought from my father when he got his K-horns. I am just now branching out into better fidelity. I tend to prefer warm with strong bass and clear vocals over exact precise and I don't listen to a lot of jazz or orchestra. Example music in a given day: Rush, Foo Fighters, Anne Bisson, Dire Straights, Floyd, Supertramp, Holly cole, Joe Bonammassa, Mark Knopfler, Queen, Acoustic Alchemy, Joy Williams, Peter Bradley Adams, etc... To drive the Chorus IIs, for new I am considering the following (if I go up to 1000) Rotel A12 Outlaw Audio RR 2160 stereo receiver NAD C 368 For less money, considering. Yamaha A-S501BL NAD C 316BEE (would I still get good strong bass at sub reference listening levels?) Emotiva TA-100 I would consider an amp/preamp combo but have really no good knowledge of options. I also know very little of great used in my price-point of up to 1000. p.s. Can a moderator please move this thread to "2 channel audio"

Backstory: I have a pair of Chorus IIs that I upgraded with both the Crite's crossovers as well as the tweeter diaphragms. They used to be the FL/FR speakers in my 5.1 surround sound system and were driven by a Denon AVR-X3300W (105W). When I wanted to listen to music, I would switch to 2.1 with a 80 hz pass to a R-10SW. Current Story: New house and now have a room just for music! Will be replacing the FL/FR in the 5.1 with TBD and my Chorus IIs are now in their own room. The new room with my old AVR driving the Chorus IIs sounds very good to me (with full spectrum to 2.0 and sub removed) and one option is to keep the Denon AVR on the Chorus IIs and spend ~ $500 on new AVR for the home theater. The other would be to get a good receiver/DAC combo for the Chorus II and move the Denon AVR back to the theater. Given the sensitivity of my speakers, and my desire for wireless connectivity, I tried to go cheap and ordered a Yamaha RX-V485BL to drive just the Chorus IIs and it sounded like crap. I returned it. Criteria important to me: Wife would like to not see subwoofer in new room, so initially will not have one, would like to have enough good clean power to not need one I primarily only listen to lossless or 320kb/s streaming over my network I would like to spend < $600 Probably would prefer non-tube because of cost Want to be able to take the optical out from chromecast audio to hit a decent DAC in the amplifier ( I ordered the CCA today with the thought of a good 2 or 2.1 amplifier. If it doesn't work, I will up the budget for a Sonos Connect instead or some other option) I want to be able to at least do bass/treble/loudness adjustments without having to buy a preamp Would like some kind of processing on amplifier such that I can listen to levels well below reference and still sound good For new I was considering this at the top of my price range: Yamaha A-S501BL Natural Sound Integrated Stereo Amplifier (Black) I would love your thoughts and opinions on that item given my criteria above. I would also love to hear about used options that would meet those criteria I am very much an audiophile noob; please correct me on terminology Thanks in Advance.

"two similar items"..... A and B were NOT similar items. Right?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-KLIPSCH-FORTE-SPEAKERS-IN-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-/201989500280?hash=item2f07832d78:g:uGoAAOSwvjdZXvgJ

Thank you for all the input. Anyone have experience on the Bob Crites Center I linked?