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    McIntosh MA6600 Integrated; Technics SL-1210GAE Table; Audio Technica VM760SLC Cartridge; Sweet Vinyl SC-1 Click/Pop removal pre-amp; Klipsch Cornwall III Speakers; a beautiful wife and two dogs as only room treatments.

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  1. Um, yeah... Like everyone, imho. Many tried, none succeeded in claiming the $10k prize. https://web.archive.org/web/20130716171611/http://tom-morrow-land.com/tests/ampchall
  2. Excellent! You'll be glad you did
  3. I just love how people imply Klipsch engineers were stone-eared and clueless UNTIL they engineered THEIR particular version of "X".
  4. Egads! Put your speakers back together as they were and leave them alone. I'm pretty sure that if a bunch of wadding material would have made them sound better, the engineers at Klipsch would have added such. This picture looks exactly like the inside of CW3. That said, a peek inside Klipsch Heritage speakers is a bit surprising. ..They are quite primitive when compared to the insides of other comparably priced (or even much cheaper) speakers. Goes to show it's all about outcome. ..If the speakers sound great, does it really matter if they seem rather crudely constructed?
  5. What is clear from your post is that you obviously cherish your vinyl collection and seem devoted to playing it for some time to come. ..Also, it would appear your Technics 1800 is quite long in the tooth. Lastly, it seems you have the means to buy the 1210GR if only you can justify the cost. It it were me, I'd buy the 1210gr and be done with ever upgrading my turntable; it will truly be all the TT you will ever need. Your current table is old enough that it's likely you'll experience some issues in the not too distant future. And when you do, there's no guarantee you'll be able to find a tech and or parts for the repair. And at that point, the 1210GR may either be more expensive or out-of-production. You've waited this long to upgrade, no one could accuse you of being frivolous w/ your $$ Just my $.02 (which may have an actual cash value of closer to $.01)
  6. If you're buying a modern day solid-state integrated amp, make your choice based on the features you want (eg., do you require tone controls, balance control, etc..), the power you require (easy w/ Klipsch b/c they are so efficient - 40w should be > than enough), and the look/ feel that you find appealing. Any Yamaha, NAD, Denon, Marantz, Onkyo, etc.. in the price range will sound pretty much alike.
  7. Hi Dolph, My thoughts.. As others have said, the first thing is to make sure your stylus isn't worn, and that you have an excellent cartridge that is properly mounted. My cartridge is the Audio Technica VM760SLC Here: https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/cartridges/type/moving-magnet/vm760slc And it works very very well w/ my Technics SL1210GAE. If you MUST upgrade your table simply b/c you have the itch (no shame in this, we've all made upgrades for the same reason) I'll point out that if you switch to any but the very best belt-driven tables, you're apt to be disappointed with the speed stability. Your table is a quartz-controlled direct-drive design which means it turns the table at a precise 33 1/3 rpm AND (perhaps more importantly) does not perceptibly drift from the that speed. ..If you switch to a belt-drive table that is in the same price range as the 1200GR you will likely find sustained notes on piano, guitar, violin, etc . are audibly drifting in/out of pitch. To me this is quite frustrating. To others, not so much. I owned a Technics GR for 6 months before upgrading to a Technics SL-1210GAE. These tables are fantastic. And, to be honest, I'm not sure the GAE offers much improvement over the GR other than a more luxurious feel when handling & operating the table. If it does sound better, it certainly doesn't sound 2 1/2 times better. The $1600 1200GR is better built and sounds better than ANY $4k belt-driven table I have heard. And like you, I simply don't like the plank plinth designs that dominate the market these days, especially in the same price range as the GR. Here's another thought. ..If you love your vinyl but have grown tired of all the pops & clicks consider one of these devices. ..For the same price (or less) as a 1200GR you can listen to your vinyl with your current table but with nearly ALL of the pops and clicks removed - with a simple push of a button as you listen. ..And it does it without audibly damaging the vinyl sound you love (you can check this yourself as you listen). Yes, some vinyl purists will object to the idea of digitizing the vinyl signal but that doesn't bother me at all. I love vinyl, but primarily b/c the format encourages the listener to listen to an album side from beginning to end (it's a pain skipping songs!) and b/c I love the physical album cover, it's artwork and liner-notes, etc. I own the Sugar Cube SC-1 Mini and absolutely love it. It's so transparent I leave it engaged at all times. https://sweetvinyl.com
  8. Audio being a hobby does not mean it isn't (or shouldn't be) evidence-based. When you peruse the websites of nearly every audio gear mfg., you will find definitive statements about performance often with white-papers, graphs, charts, etc.. which purport (operative word) to support the claim. Evidence - whether it truly meets the definition, or not - is very much a part of this hobby. But what qualifies as compelling evidence to you may not for me. As for "one's life depending on it", well... it's always my hope when I plug an amplifier in that it's properly engineered so to not cause an electrical shock or fire. ..And there have been some I would never leave plugged while not home.
  9. Well, I hope that's what it was. But I doubt it. He said "my Heresy IIIs needed a year or more before they fully settled in!" Ugh.
  10. Some speaker manufacturers (plus some component) know the break-in claim is nonsense but allow it to persist b/c it helps reduce the number of people who return speakers b/c they failed to live up to expectations that were often set by wildly glowing reviews, online group-think, etc.. Some companies (not necessarily Klipsch) know if they specify a long-enough break-in time, people will simply grow accustomed to the sound of their new speakers and become resigned to keeping them. Or maybe they'll go back and reread the glowing reviews and will simply convince themselves. Do you really think PWK would support the idea of 400 hr breakin period?? Of course not. ..Nor did Bob Crites. ..In fact he said it took a mere few minutes.
  11. Fine, but to me that is not a very evidence-based approach to this hobby.
  12. No? ..So he was referring to the speakers foot speed - it's 40yd dash performance, perhaps? Here's the quote: "..the Cornwall IV is amazingly fast"
  13. I appreciate you taking the time to post. Thanks. That said, his claim that it needs 400 hours of break-in is so beyond ridiculous that IMHO it totally disqualifies him as a reviewer. 400 hours!!!???? After that comment I found it hard to take seriously anything he said. If true, how does a manufacturer even develop a speaker? At what point do they conclude listening tests - confident they're hearing the finished product? ..At 10, 100, 300, or 400 hours??? ..And at what time are measurements taken - or does the speakers sound change but not the measurements? (which would be a very interesting claim). Ugh... ..There's also tons of silly audio-babble that is also disqualifying. For example (paraphrasing), "The speakers sound incredibly fast" A rather worthless review, imho.
  14. No.. I've heard each in different setups but never side by side. ..Both sound great to me. But I stand by my comment that whenever I HAVE heard new/previous iterations of speakers side-by-side (volume-matched, etc.), the differences ended up being much smaller than the manufacturer would lead you to believe. I suspect this would be true of F3 v F4, H3 v H4, C3 v C4, etc.... Was Klipsch NOT an excellent speaker company that had considerable engineering, and manufacturing resources on hand when those previous iterations were designed/ built? Yes, of course they were and did. Has Klipsch's understanding of speaker design taken some HUGE leaps forward in the years b/w the 3's and 4's? Not likely. I'm simply encouraging posters not to succumb to buyer's remorse and trade in their 1-2 year-old F3's without first hearing the F3 alongside the F4. ..Ideally while blinded, volumes precisely-matched, etc.. ..If they do this I suspect they'll agree that the differences are small, perhaps even imperceptible.
  15. These days, amps sound mostly the same. To wit: the $10k Richard Clark Amplifier Challenge. From the website: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/193850-richard-clark-10000-amplifier-challenge/ : "The Richard Clark Amp Challenge is a listening test intended to show that as long as a modern audio amplifier is operated within its linear range (below clipping), the differences between amps are inaudible to the human ear. Because thousands of people have taken the test, the test is significant to the audiophile debate over audibility of amplifier differences. This document was written to summarize what the test is, and answer common questions about the test. Richard Clark was not involved in writing this document." This does not mean one should be totally indiscriminate when choosing an amplifier!! Indeed, one should make sure it can drive the speakers to required levels without distortion becoming audible. ..For Klipsch speakers, this should be fairly easy due to their incredible efficiency. Of course, there are also other considerations, like features. Are tone controls important? ..How about a Mono switch? ..Or maybe wattage meters?? And form factor matters too. ..If it's prominently visible sitting in the family great-room, then maybe you'll want it to be attractive or at least unobtrusive looking. Do you want DSP room correction, etc..? But don't succumb to the idea that matching your amp to your speakers is akin to matching your Cabernet to your expensive filet mignon. ..Nope.
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