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  1. Why are you having such a hard time believing that MDF is a better choice when every speaker manufacturer under the sun (minus one or two) who uses wood uses this material? I find the claims that it is a better choice because of rigidity, consistency and sound characteristics are more believable than your assertion that it is chosen simply to save a few dollars. Heck, if spending the extra bucks for plywood gave Klipsch a bragging right they would certainly have chosen it and made hay about it in there brochures etc. But they didn’t because they know better And you still haven’t addressed my question about your extraordinary concerns about water resistance. What other component that is part of our hi-fi set ups was ever engineered with water resistance in mind? Not our amplifiers, turntables, tape decks, flatscreen TVs, etc. None of these need to be water resistant so why would speakers?
  2. Yes, that AND iIt doesn't advance the medium in any substantive way. ..It's cool to see a levitating platter. ..But does it reduce rumble or W&F in any noticeable way? ..No, not when grove noise is what it is.
  3. Pretty cool but it seems to me this levitating drive approach Is a solution in search of a problem. We already have turntables with better wow and flutter performance and S/N ratios. The Technics SL-1210GR appears to outperform it in every respect that may be audible. And costs considerably less. I find it curious that in the video you do not actually see the needle land on the record. I suspect that initially the needle impact causes a little bit of wobble. Indeed, in the close-ups it looks like the whole platter is ever so slightly wobbling. I don’t mean to detract from what they’ve achieved. It’s very very cool. But it Has to move analog forward or it will simply be a fascinating gimmick.
  4. I'm a subscriber and read the review. Although the subjective comments about the speaker were positive, the measurements were a bit disappointing. And I was a bit dismayed that in the Manufacturer's Comments section in the issue, Klipsch chose to simply copy/paste text from their brochure. ..Very strange. Typically, you'll find comments from an engineer speaking to measurement anomalies or functional issues, etc.. I would have expected some comments from Roy. Their review of the Heresy III was more positive, but lacked any measurements.
  5. And Yet 99% of audiophile speakers are made from MDF. Vandersteen, DynAudio, KEF, B&W, PSB, Infiniti, Paradigm, Polk, and on and on all use MDF with hardwood veneers. Indeed, they’ve done so for years. And most are still around today without any cosmetic issues. This is certainly true of every speaker I have ever owned - some for over 20 years (still perfect). Personally, I think you are vastly overstating the risks. After all, none of my other components were engineered or manufactured with water resistance in mind. Not my amplifier, my turntable, my DAC, my CD player, my Mac Mini music server, my plasma TV, etc.... All were built with the assumption the owner would keep them out of the elements. My hunch is that consistent density wins over rain resistance as an important design consideration for audiophile grade speakers , except in cases where they are to be used where they might be exposed to elements (train stations, amusement parks, etc..).
  6. Patricia Barber music is very well recorded w/ great dynamics. ..Sounds like she's right in the room with you. The problem is, her music is sooo hard to like that you'll want to show her the door almost immediately.
  7. Rather than adding the cost of subs to Heresy's maybe consider instead just buying Cornwall III's - they dig deeper, play louder, and probably take up less space than H3's and a Sub. I too love occasionally cranking music to ear-bleed levels and have been known to do so with a Bombay Saphire martini on-board. Still, I find the CWIII's to be extremely satisfying despite dropping off at the very lowest frequencies. The only time I miss a subwoofer is when I make my system pull double-duty as the L/R front and sub for movies. ..And even then ONLY when watching movies with lots of deep deep special effects which usually isn't my thing. ..I don't miss hearing explosions and the footsteps of T-Rex's enough to add another run of unsightly cables and another big box to our common room and deal with the challenges of finding the optimum crossover frequency, etc...
  8. Can't recall if I've made this comment before, but these pics are great - HOWEVER, these craftspeople need to be wearing respirators for gods sake! Know any smokers who have died from COPD? ..It's an awful death. And the same can happen from environmental fallout, like toxic paint/ stains and sawdust. So Klipsch, show your employees some love and appreciation by INSISTING on respirators.
  9. Totally agree with this. ..I'm sure Cory is a good guy and all but if there's a Klipsch dealer within a reasonable distance give them a chance to earn your business. I'd be totally cool with paying a nearby dealer a bit more. If we don't support our local Klipsch dealer they will all soon disappear.
  10. Go for it, particularly if you're able to hear them before buying to confirm nothing was knocked loose inside. ..I would consider that to be highly unlikely. $2000 for cosmetically damaged CW III's seems like a good deal. ..And though you might not be able to make the damage invisible, I'm betting you'll be able to greatly improve it.
  11. Here Is a closeup of my Cherry Cornwall llls
  12. I don't mean to offend, but I would not even think about modifying a speaker in this way - particularly a current production model that may still be under warranty. So you're adding bracing to fix presumed resonances, but you're also decreasing internal volume which is apt to have all sorts of ill affects. Remember, those who engineered these speakers had every opportunity to design bracing into the design if they felt it would improve their sound. And they didn't. Before even considering this I would insist on a careful direct and blinded comparison b/w a pair so modified and an original pair - I would NOT simply take someones word that it improves the speaker. I have Cornwall III's and will admit that they sound fairly hollow and unbraced when you knock on them. Yet, I hear ZERO smearing at ANY volume and with any kind of music or test tones that could be attributable to resonances. To my thinking, adding bracing sounds like a solution in search of a problem.
  13. Sound better after break-in? Doubtful. More likely it's an acoustic issue related to your listening environment. Regarding break-in, here is what Bob Crites (noted Klipsch historian and designer/manufacturer of Klipsch upgrades and replacement components) has to say: (from his website)
  14. Please elaborate. ..My McIntosh MA6600 uses a digital volume control. ..So what exactly am I missing?? My previous integrated amps and pre-amps all used analog stepped controllers and ALL of them attenuated volume at different rates for each channel. ..In other words as you turn the volume all the way down either the right or left channel would go silent before the other. Though not related to the volume controller they all also allowed bleed from other inputs that could be heard by simply playing a source, then turning to an unused input and turn the volume up. ..Before turning the volume half way up you could hear music from the source. ..I found this maddening. This NEVER happens on my Mac NOR my Onkyo AVR - both of which have digital pre-amp sections. And I hear all the detail that I heard through my separate analog preamps (Bryston BP-25, B&K Pro-10MC). As far as I'm concerned, much of what happens in a pre-amp should occur digitally. ..Technology has taken us to a better place where pre-amps are concerned.
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