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  1. At more than 2” taller than the IIIs it will be a bit harder to fit these in with many decors. They were already gigantic. Still, I look forward to hearing them at my dealer.
  2. Any word on whether they will use all birch ply in order to enhance water resistance?
  3. To me this was a weird reply. ..From the outset it was odd. No "Thank you for the Review..." which seems to precede nearly every reply found in the Manufacturer's Response section? Why on earth didn't Roy speak (write) to the specifics of the review. The struck me a s strange reply and a sorely missed opportunity to provide some balance to what strikes most of us as a poor review.
  4. So you tried pairs and each exhibited the same problem? . Are they close to each other in terms of production sequence? Perhaps a bad batch of crossovers were installed in the speakers and a regrettable laps in quality control failed to catch both pairs. As suggested I would ask the dealer to come out and take a look and to bring proper measuring equipment/instruments . My CWIIIs also extend down into the 30s with little change in output.
  5. The problem is likely the volume control on the amp, not the speakers. Though it may be true that their high efficiency makes such channel imbalances more apparent. I sent back a Peachtree Nova, and a Bryson BP-25 (A preamp) for adjustment/ repair and neither came back totally balanced. Hence, I sold them. Sadly, i think it’s inherent in some volume control designs. This is one reason I suggest people NEVER get an integrated or pre-amplifier that lacks a balance control.
  6. I don’t follow. I am referring to the Manufactures Response section in the back of the stereophile issue in which this review appeared. This section of the magazine is there to provide manufacturers a chance to respond to issues raised by a review. And there seems to be much here that Klipsch (i.e, Roy) could have responded to. Of course Klipsch would not want to come across as being defensive, but there’s nothing wrong with politely crying foul over bad measurement techniques
  7. The manufacturers response to this review read like A few paragraphs copy/pasted from the website and brochure. Instead, why didn’t Roy take Atkinson and Dudley to task for these review irregularities everybody is talking about? Seems like a missed opportunity to me. The same thing happened with the forte review
  8. How about this for $139? I have one that I use to drive our patio speakers. I have tried it with my Cornwall’s and it sounds great. Able to drive them to painfully loud levels without hint of strain or distortion. Plus, there are a lot of online reviews attesting to its reasonable reliability. The inexpensive monoprice amps and you mentioned would give me pause not because I don’t think they would sound fine but because I would worry about their reliability. https://www.crutchfield.com/p_021AMP100V/AudioSource-AMP100VS.html?skipvs=T Also, this has a balance control and on the back there are tone controls.
  9. Personally, I think it's absurdly over-powered for those speakers. ...Here's my specific concern: I had a 2nd generation Peachtree Nova (just 85w/ch. I believe) driving my (then) Paradigm S8 v2's - speakers which aren't nearly as efficient as your H3's. While the amp sounded clean and clear at normal volumes, it had a peculiar problem when listening at quiet levels. Whenever I turned the amp down to a low (but clearly audible) level one channel would attenuate more than the other (I can't recall which). And since the amp lacked a balance control, there was NO remedy apart from sending back to Peachtree for repair. ..If memory serves, they simply replaced it. The second unit was slightly better but was still clearly off. If this issue is inherent in the type of volume control Peachtree uses, I wonder if you might experience this at regular listening levels since you'll likely be using so little of the volume controls rotation. As a result of my experience I resolved to never again own an integrated amp (or pre-amp) that didn't have a balance control. ..To my thinking, it's a bare necessity. And though many may not feel this way, I think most would agree a volume control that is linear is a must. As an aside, I do think Peachtree's gear is beautiful looking and has a nice solid feel.
  10. Why so determined to denigrate my system dude? With the Mac meters barely hitting 10 watts it plays loud enough to draw a visit from the cops and deep enough to rattle dishes in our cupboards - all without the slightest hint of strain. ..So I'm content. ..I hope you find contment too.
  11. As a relevant aside, perusing Klipsch's pro series website you'll notice that MANY (if not all) of their permanent installation speakers (like the Ki-396 series) are built with an MDF motherboard (aka front baffle).
  12. I agree. I think some attach some degree of pride-of-ownership to speakers made w/ ply which is fine. ..Just don't try to suggest speakers NOT made this way are inferior. ..There are simply too many examples of fine speakers out there that are made from MDF. The aforementioned SALK and Vandersteen are just two examples. ..I don't think MDF sounds appreciably better, but I certainly don't believe PLY does either. I do agree, however, that speakers meant for amusement parks and transportation stations, etc.. should probably be made from ply.
  13. So what about all the voids NOT discovered by the router? Voids in the middle of a panel? Aren't they apt to cause resonances? Sorry, not buying it. ..And for all the reasons I've mentioned before. You're speculating as to what PWK would chose today. What is not speculation is that almost EVERY other speaker company uses MDF, including Richard Vandersteen who is just as committed to the quality of his speakers as we knew PWK to be.
  14. Why are you having such a hard time believing that MDF is a better choice when every speaker manufacturer under the sun (minus one or two) who uses wood uses this material? I find the claims that it is a better choice because of rigidity, consistency and sound characteristics are more believable than your assertion that it is chosen simply to save a few dollars. Heck, if spending the extra bucks for plywood gave Klipsch a bragging right they would certainly have chosen it and made hay about it in there brochures etc. But they didn’t because they know better And you still haven’t addressed my question about your extraordinary concerns about water resistance. What other component that is part of our hi-fi set ups was ever engineered with water resistance in mind? Not our amplifiers, turntables, tape decks, flatscreen TVs, etc. None of these need to be water resistant so why would speakers?
  15. Yes, that AND iIt doesn't advance the medium in any substantive way. ..It's cool to see a levitating platter. ..But does it reduce rumble or W&F in any noticeable way? ..No, not when grove noise is what it is.
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