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    WTB Forte II, Possible Quartets- anywhere between Raleigh - Knoxville

    in Garage Sale

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    On 6/28/2019 at 8:58 PM, Madman1 said:

    Hey Biscuit, 

    I’m actually working in Raleigh right now and I always keep an eye on cl when I travel. There is a few Marantz receivers in Raleigh right now. Really nice looking 2235 with wood cabinet. I think it would be quite nice with fortes or heresys, maybe a bit light on power for kgs tho. Seen some Sansui receivers around Knoxville. 

    I missed this!  Thanks @Madman1  Please do keep me in mind.

     

    WTB Forte II, Possible Quartets- anywhere between Raleigh - Knoxville

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    27 minutes ago, Emile said:

    Haha ... know I'll catch hell for this, but I think the KG4's are "pretty" good - especially for someone who is just starting with this hobby. (I had KG4's in my small stereo room and replaced them with Forte's ... yes, a bit better, but not night & day. But, not a Forte fan ... replaced them with CF-3's and yes; now it is a big difference.)

     

    Re the amp ... if he just wants to "try" something (and probably upgrade later - which is the fun part of this hobby) I suggest a Yamaha CR-620 or 820. Lots of those around for $100-$200. :D  (Have a 620 on my rear Cornwall's - very good sound.)  And ... KG4's are $200-$300.  Haha; he can get started for $300-$500. AFTER that he can spend big money on Mac amps and Khorns.  Just my thoughts :D 

     

    Cheers, Emile  

     

    Add-on ... the KG4's will require Bob Crites' Ti diaphragm upgrade

     

    That is kind of what I was thinking about the KG4's. Both on the upgrade and as a "good starter option." Very nice to get confirmation :)

     

    I'm looking to sell a CR2020, it doesn't seem rich enough to my ears for my Chorus IIs.  And apparently it is so much effort to recap that it has to be your ultimate item to do so. 

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    WTB Forte II, Possible Quartets- anywhere between Raleigh - Knoxville

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    My brother-in-law just spent a week with us and after listening to upgraded Klipsch Chorus IIs all week long on vintange Sansui and Marantz gear, he has gotten the bug and is looking to acquire that sound for himself. I told him to find Quartets or Fortes first as, Chorus are both larger and more expensive than he wants to start with.  I live in Raleigh and can drive ~ 150 miles to get them, and he lives in Knoxville and can do the same.  

     

    Crited or not would be fine; if they aren't, he will do so.

     

    As an aside, he is also looking for a Sansui 5000x or 7070. Doesn't have to be recapped, but must work with clean faceplates and minimal marring to cases. 

     

    If you have or know of some, please let me know!

     

    Also, just a question.  How would KG4's compare in sound quality to Forte II's?  Similar? 

     

    Thanks in advance!

      

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    Price Check 1990 Khorn AK3 single Owner Excellent Condition

    in General Klipsch Info

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    3 hours ago, bkwa1959 said:

    A friend of mine offered him 2600.00 and he told him 2900.00 would be the least he would take.Did you make him an offer

     

     

    I offered him 2500; he said he wouldn't dip below 3000, so I didn't haggle, as that was a couple hundred more than I was willing to give after seeing them. They are nice, but right cabinet is "good", not excellent.  Left is excellent. 

     

    Price Check 1990 Khorn AK3 single Owner Excellent Condition

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    I went and demo'd them with my Outlaw (wasn't willing to box up the Marantz for it).  They sounded pretty great even with crappy placement (3 inches from corners, 4 inches off floor and 30 feet apart  with shallow listening area).  Right cabinet was not in excellent shape and he wasn't quite ready to let go of them, so we didn't come to an agreement, but maybe someday :) 

    Thanks to all for their input!

    Price Check 1990 Khorn AK3 single Owner Excellent Condition

    in General Klipsch Info

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    Thanks for all the quick responses and advice. I have the most awesome wife that is actually encouraging me to get them. 

     

    Second question. Current Receivers are a Marantz 2270, fully refurbished/capped, and a new Outlaw 2160.  I prefer the Marantz unless I really want to listen loud.  Thoughts on how those two would sound with these speakers?  I know the Khorns are extremely efficient, but would these be enough power for good bass response?

     

    Advice for Chorus II speakers - dedicated Music Room

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    Thanks @veloceleste. I was kind of thinking the same thing. I've NEVER heard vintage sound through my Chorus IIs. I'm paying him for his time to come over with a 2226b and the 2270, both fully restored to see what those sound like. Then heading to listen to some of the choices I listed above on some forte III's in a local audio store. I'm hoping the forte III's will be similar enough to my Crited Chorus IIs to compare without having to take home. 

     

     

    Advice for Chorus II speakers - dedicated Music Room

    in General Klipsch Info

    Posted · Edited by Biscuit

    I should add that the kind of music I listen to is somewhat eclectic and that I'm in the very early stages of educating myself about amps, preamps, discrete vs. integrated, tubes etc... I've always just been a run of the mill Onkyo, Yamaha, Denon AVR type with a deep appreciation for Klipsch since my Forte II's (1995 through last year) and now Chorus IIs that I bought from my father when he got his K-horns.  I am just now branching out into better fidelity. I tend to prefer warm with strong bass and clear vocals over exact precise and I don't listen to a lot of jazz or orchestra. 

     

    Example music in a given day: 

    Rush, Foo Fighters, Anne Bisson, Dire Straights, Floyd, Supertramp, Holly cole, Joe Bonammassa, Mark Knopfler, Queen, Acoustic Alchemy, Joy Williams, Peter Bradley Adams,  etc...

     

    To drive the Chorus IIs, for new I am considering the following (if I go up to 1000)

    • Rotel A12
    • Outlaw Audio RR 2160 stereo receiver
    • NAD C 368

     

    For less money, considering.

    • Yamaha A-S501BL
    • NAD C 316BEE (would I still get good strong bass at sub reference listening levels?)
    • Emotiva TA-100

     

    I would consider an amp/preamp combo but have really no good knowledge of options. I also know very little of great used  in my price-point of up to 1000. 

     

    p.s. Can a moderator please move this thread to "2 channel audio"

     

    Advice for Chorus II speakers - dedicated Music Room

    in General Klipsch Info

    Posted · Edited by Biscuit
    grammar and corrections

    Backstory: 

    I have a pair of Chorus IIs that I upgraded with both the Crite's crossovers as well as the tweeter diaphragms.  They used to be the FL/FR speakers in my 5.1 surround sound system and were driven by a Denon AVR-X3300W (105W).  When I wanted to listen to music, I would switch to 2.1 with a 80 hz pass to a  R-10SW. 

     

    Current Story:

    New house and now have a room just for music! Will be replacing the FL/FR in the 5.1 with TBD and my Chorus IIs are now in their own room. The new room with my old AVR driving the Chorus IIs sounds very good to me (with full spectrum to 2.0 and sub removed) and one option is to keep the Denon AVR on the Chorus IIs and spend ~ $500 on new AVR for the home theater.  The other would be to get a good receiver/DAC combo for the Chorus II and move the Denon AVR back to the theater.

     

    Given the sensitivity of my speakers, and my desire for wireless connectivity, I tried to go cheap and ordered a Yamaha RX-V485BL to drive just the Chorus IIs and it sounded like crap. I returned it. 

     

    Criteria important to me:

    • Wife would like to not see subwoofer in new room, so initially will not have one, would like to have enough good clean power to not need one
    • I primarily only listen to lossless or 320kb/s streaming over my network
    • I would like to spend < $600
    • Probably would prefer non-tube because of cost
    • Want to be able to take the optical out from chromecast audio to hit a decent DAC in the amplifier ( I ordered the CCA today with the thought of a good 2 or 2.1 amplifier.  If it doesn't work, I will up the budget for a Sonos Connect instead or some other option)
    • I want to be able to at least do bass/treble/loudness adjustments without having to buy a preamp
    • Would like some kind of processing on amplifier such that I can listen to levels well below reference and still sound good
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    For new I was considering this at the top of my price range: Yamaha A-S501BL Natural Sound Integrated Stereo Amplifier (Black)

     

    I would love your thoughts and opinions on that item given my criteria above.

    I would also love to hear about used options that would meet those criteria

    I am very much an audiophile noob; please correct me on terminology :)

     

    Thanks in Advance.

     

    Advice for Beginners - consider this test from an audio club

    in General Klipsch Info

    Posted

    3 hours ago, Edgar said:

    Statistically speaking, if you take a group of people, give them a choice of two similar items, and ask them which they prefer, among those who actually have a preference about half will choose one and the remainder will choose the other. That's pretty close to what we see here.

     

    I believe it works with chocolate and vanilla ice cream, too.

     

    "two similar items".....  A and B were NOT similar items.  Right? 

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