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  1. thanks for sharing your impressions. I have III's and have heard IV's at a dealer. Did I like them? Sure I did... In fact, they reminded me quite a bit me of my III's - which I love. Your impressions are more thoughtful and therefore believable than the crowd that has been saying, "..I heard the IV's - they crush the III's" Oy vey. Such comments are difficult to take seriously. No matter how great the III's sound, people just couldn't get past the fact that Klipsch chose to use the same mid/tweeter as the H3. I reiterate a point I made a few months ago: EVERY speaker I've ever owned was described as being vastly superior to the previous generation and vastly inferior to the next. Yet, in EVERY case where I was able to directly compare one generation to the next (side-by-side, volumes carefully matched), the differences ended up being very very subtle - so subtle that in some cases you'd be hard pressed to distinguish them while blinded. This was true even in cases where the cabinet was re-braced and EVERY driver was supposedly upgraded and improved. And when a difference was heard, it wasn't necessarily an improvement - I.e., took a step closer to the sound of real live music.
  2. Very cool!! To me, the appeal of Vinyl is NOT that it sounds better. Because, well... ..it doesn't. Vinyl is challenged by off-center holes, limited dynamic range, wow/flutter in the master, inner-grove distortion, etc.. All that aside, it can still sound absolutely amazing AND there's no comparing the awesome liner notes, posters, pictures, cover art, etc.. of vinyl. ..Basically, the experience eluded to in this trailer. Plus, because vinyl is so inconvenient to advance to the next song, its encourages the listener to take in the WHOLE album side which reveals the connectedness of the songs and possible themes that otherwise get missed. Viva la Vinyl
  3. Burn in time is a myth that needs to go away, IMHO. Some speaker manufacturers (plus some component) know the break-in claim is nonsense but allow it to persist b/c it helps reduce the number of people who return speakers b/c they failed to live up to expectations that were often set by wildly glowing reviews, online group-think, etc.. Some companies (not necessarily Klipsch) know if they specify a long-enough break-in time, people will simply grow accustomed to the sound of their new speakers and become resigned to keeping them. Or maybe they'll go back and reread the glowing reviews and will simply convince themselves. Do you really think PWK would support the idea of 400 hr breakin period?? Of course not. ..Nor did Bob Crites. ..In fact he said it took a mere few minutes.
  4. The problem with the vast array of today's offerings is that they are devoid of all the features that made audio so much more fun back when your KR-6600 was sold. I find well implemented Bass/ Treble, Mono/ Stereo controls indispensable for making less than perfect songs more enjoyable. Heck, today many of these "minimalist" styled integrated amps don't even have a balance control. The argument given is that these features reduce fidelity by adding additional breaks in the signal. ..This is ridiculous of course; one look at a mixing board will put that notion to rest. (Pretty sure PWK would flash his "BS" button at claims that a few dozen signal breaks would audibly affect the sound) . If it were me I'd try to up my budget to afford a used McIntosh, Luxman, Anthem (recent model), or Accuphase amp. ..Each of these still has the features that made your Kenwood so fun to own..
  5. Excellent!! Happiness is a hum-free turntable system.
  6. Good luck!! Hat's off to the few remaining brick & mortar audio dealers. ...This hobby desperately needs them!!
  7. Fingers crossed for you! That the R/L channels have different amounts of hum suggests it's not grounding issue . ..Still, I would - as a matter of good TT hygiene - ensure that the TT/AMP/Pre are ALL plugged into the same outlet. That the outlets are part of the same circuit may not be enough. My TT hummed even though all outlets were (of course) part of the same circuit. ...Only when they were plugged into the same 4-way receptacle did the hum disappear. Maybe a more experienced member can explain why this should matter.
  8. good luck. ..The Technics 12X0GX tables are truly remarkable. ..I hope you're able to fully enjoy yours soon.
  9. try backing the power cord out just a hair from the receptacle in the back of the turntable (not the plug going into the wall - the other end). I Recall reading somewhere that somebody solved a hum issue by doing just that. Hard to fathom why that should matter. I actually read that tip before setting up my GAE, so when I plugged the cord into the back of my table I did exactly that; I Pushed it all the way in then backed it out about a 16th of an inch. It still fits quite snug. And no hum until I turn my 200 W Mac Integrated amp to about 65%. And I only hear it then when I hold my ear to the Tweeter horn.
  10. What has Klipsch said about this issue?? I've not seen this happen on ANY other speaker. While it's good some have found a DIY fix, I'd be annoyed if I had to do this on any speaker that is less than 10-15yrs old.
  11. Ugh... Hum issues are the worst. Sorry to hear. I had hum issues and resolved them by plugging my TT, phono pre-amp, and Integrated amp into the same 4-outlet receptacle. Voila. Gone. It's certainly worth giving that a try. As an aside, although my Integrated has a phono-pre, I use an outboard phono pre-amp because my TT is too far away for 6' interconnects to reach the Int. amp. By placing the phono pre-amp b/w the TT and Int. Amp, I have about 12' feet of total cable distance. Once you get it resolved, you'll love the 1210GR. I have a GAE and it's a joy.
  12. Thanks, and I like your rig and the guitars beneath JH. ..Only wish I could play
  13. Like the pic!! Reminds me of mine.. A music legend suspended above a legendary speaker
  14. A google search found the following claim from McIntosh. "..There are two circuits that give these meters the indicating capability of the short interval power in a sound wave. The first circuit is an accelerating circuit that compensates for the inertia characteristics of the meter movement. Because the short interval power fluctuation is so rapid, the eye might not perceive the instantaneous power reading so a time stretching circuit is employed to delay the meter needle at peak reading for a few milliseconds." Whether their description is completely accurate or embellished marketing hype, I have no idea. But can tell you with certainty that when the meters show 5 watts the volume is insanely loud. You’d have to be beyond stupid to listen at that level for more than 10 seconds.
  15. While I applaud the effort required in putting this together I didn’t do this test. But I can tell you that the wattage meters on my McIntosh MA6600 integrated rarely go past 5 watts and have never gone past 20 watts. At such volumes the music is dangerously and recklessly loud. My CW3s are 12’ away from my listening chair. As an aside, take heed of Dave Grohls cautionary tale. The legendary Nirvana drummer and Foo Fighters frontman has recently revealed that his hearing loss - from loud music - has, for many years, been so bad that he must lip read whenever there is more than one voice speaking in a room. So keep that in mind when contemplating amplifier wattage requirements
  16. More accurately, I am saying take audible differences out of the equation because there likely aren’t any. Personally, I would stick with an integrated amplifier. In much the same way people romanticize tubes people also romanticize the idea of separates. While separates may allow you to independently upgrade the preamp or the power amp, they also potentiate issues like hum and hiss that arise from having extra interconnect cables and power cords.
  17. McIntosh engineers ALL their amps to behave linearly when driving nearly any speaker load. Hence, their tube amps sound pretty much like their S/S amps.
  18. Then get the C70, which appears to be the very same preamp as the C 22 but with the more modern Mac cosmetics. My gripe re: the C2700 is that it utilizes a not-so-robust-feeling push and scroll knob to wend through digital menus. It is much more satisfying, IMHO, to use a face plate mounted tone control knob and mono switch than to find those features via a menu. McIntosh's newest gear utilizes fewer and fewer knobs, and more menus which is disappointing because those knurled knobs are a big part their iconic look and why so many people love their gear.
  19. Also... Get tubes if you prefer their look, the retro aspect, etc... But I think you'll find that if you did a blinded comparison of McIntosh's current Tube gear w/ their current S/S gear, you will find they sound pretty much the same. Indeed, a poster on another forum who worked at McIntosh said that it was a not so carefully guarded secret that NO ONE in the company - inc. engineers, service techs, designers, etc. - could tell any of their amps apart when blinded. Nowadays, amps that measure alike sound alike - regardless of whether they are tube or not. And ALL of McIntosh's amp have exemplary measured performance. All of their gear have F/R, THD, S/N, Crosstalk, etc.. that vastly exceed the sensitivity of our hearing. Still, they continue to make tube gear b/c there will always be those who romanticize tubes. That said, get whichever and you'll be very happy. IMHO, the C-22 tubed preamp is one of the best looking pieces of audio gear ever made. I would LOVE to have one
  20. Personally, I see no need to insist on demoing the McIntosh w/ your speakers. The CW IVs are breeze to drive so there's no reason to think they could be a poor match. Buy whichever Macs best suit your aesthetic and features requirements and you'll be golden. I have a McIntosh MA6600 driving my CWs. Sounds great
  21. All sales literature in audio could be described as such - open a copy of audiophile and that is mostly what you will see And the idea that any manufacturer is breaking new ground with tube technology seems kind of ridiculous to me. I don’t think Luxman is any worse than any of the others in making such claims. As I see it, this is a beautiful amp, beautifully made and lovely to look at. I personally don’t understand the appeal of tube amps. But this one seems quite nice.
  22. The only problem w/ Bryston 7's and Klipsch is that they amount to gross overkill power-wise When powered w/ very efficient speakers that could mean lots of noise and hum. But Bryston's stuff is superbly engineered so I'm sure they'll be very quiet. On the other hand, you could elect to sell them and buy something w/ 100w or so, and pocket the difference (which is apt to be lots $$$). ..You won't need more than 20w to drive those LaScallas My McIntosh wattage amps RARELY crest 5 watts.
  23. If the La Scalas don't produce enough bass for you it's likely because they are, well......La Scalas. They're great speakers but a bit rolled off while still in the musical frequency range. Your room is not that different from mine and my CW III's sound terrific. I suggest keeping your speakers in your great room! ..It's better to have that awesome system located where its heard and shared by all in the house then to have it tucked away in some dedicated hifi room where you go into social isolation every time you enjoy your music. .I'll live with less than ideal hifi before I'd turn my music enjoyment into a solitary experience. ..But that's me. As for your Bryston gear. ..Keep it! It's beautifully made, will last a lifetime and has F/R, THD, channel separation, S/N ratio, etc.. that vastly exceeds the threshold of our hearing. Plus, a 20yr warranty. I had a 3BSST/BP25 power/pre combo for years and loved it. I only parted w/it because I wanted tone controls and a mono-switch. ..Pay no attention to claims that Bryston is "bright" sounding and therefore should be paired w/ warmish speakers. These notions are not rooted in science. I'm strongly suspect Paul W Klipsch would have said so himself. Bottomline: I'd recommend some room-treatments, a room-correction processor, and/or speakers w/ lower bass response.
  24. I don't think you necessarily "make up random crap just to sell stuff." You seem like a reasonable and likable dude.. ..But I do think you are subject to biases which predispose you to hear differences whether or not they truly exist. ..And if those difference do exist, to exaggerate them. This is not meant to impugn your character - biases are a fact of life in audio. ..Yet audiophiles generally do pretty much nothing to eliminate or even minimize them when comparing X to Y. BTW, you're talking about Fortes, and I'm talking about Cornwalls. But the point remains as the same was said about the CW3 vs W4's. ..That the CW4's (paraphrasing) are leaps and bounds better - unmistakably so. ..Yet to my ears, which measure very well and have been honed by a lifelong obsession with music, the differences are rather subtle and not necessarily better (ie. closer to real music) in the case of the CW4. Again, I'm just urging people to not be overly swayed by the gushing endorsements the next generation of a speaker gets. ..Such raving is predictable and generally exaggerated for a whole host of reasons.
  25. Ugh.. Is it too late to return them? Were you told by the seller they were functioning properly? I know some here wouldn't mind the challenge of sorting out a problem like this - and perhaps you're among them - but it would drive me nuts.
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