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  1. 20 minutes ago, mikebse2a3 said:


    Eric what time I spent listening to the Radian 950BePB at a friends home with Jub/K402 left me very impressed...!!!

     

    miketn

     

    I value your opinion, this just confirms what i've heard from others even more!

     


  2. 1 hour ago, Chris A said:

     

     

     

    I suspect, there is a level of him needing to being aware of his brand and business interests rather than visiting a strangers house to listen to a pair of speakers.

    Being a person who is very cautious but also very open with letting people come over to listen to these diamonds in the rough, the video aspect and consequences never crossed my mind.

    Talking about pro gear that requires a "special knock" to the right person is probably counter productive given his scope of talking about residential gear.


  3. 1 minute ago, Edgar said:

     

    Well, perhaps he just had a bad day. Or perhaps he doesn't understand that the Jubilee was originally designed for the home. Not everyone is as familiar with the Heritage line as we Forum regulars are.

     

    Just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.

    Indeed.....    Perhaps i wasn't wearing deodorant that day and he wanted to get away from me!   lol


  4. On 7/20/2020 at 2:31 PM, babadono said:

    So has Mr. Guttenberg heard Jubes?   @Chief bonehead

     

    I have met Steve on a number of occasions.  During our conversations he has said he has yet to hear them but wanted to.

    Every occasion I have met him, I have made an open invite to comedown to my house ( 2 hour commute) for a private session.

    Each time I offer this up, he has insinuated that he wants to be chauffeured and wined/dined before he even considers.

    Last time we spoke brought the offer up again and he said he doesn't consider the Jubilee as something worth listening to because it is a Professional Speaker....

     

    Perhaps his YouTube fame is getting to his head.....

     

     

     

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  5. On 7/30/2020 at 9:14 AM, mark1101 said:

    I have TAD 4002 drivers on all my 402s (4 of them).  You still need plenty of EQ for those CD horn/driver combos.  When I was using passive networks I used an Ashly 31 band analog EQ on the tape monitor loop of my preamp.  That was a very satisfying solution and was able to successfully flatten the response.  I eventually did introduce a digital crossover but that is another subject.

     

    If you are using 402 horns you need EQ...........or some other horns.

     

    Do you really need all 4 of those TAD drivers!?!?   lol

    I'm still on a quest for a nice clean pair for a reasonable price!


  6. Have you even done a blind test between a passive k402 system and k402 system utilizing DSP?

     

    While i understand your feelings having been there myself, you're leaving a lot on the table.

     

    As far as I know, the only passive I'm aware of that can be purchased for a Faital driver ( HF200) is from Crites...

     

    Good luck with your quest!

     

    ( Just a FYI, those radian drivers you're using are quite good, i know many k402 owners who use them w/wo BE and are pleased with them.)

     

    Erik

     

     

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  7. 27 minutes ago, HiFi-G-man said:

    Thank you for the advise everyone I really appreciate it and will definitely take those suggestions into consideration. I haven’t built yet, still designing.  Now looking into the best way to soundproof the shared wall.  I’ve heard good things about Smartblocks  - anyone have previous experience with Smartblocks?

    Have not heard of or used this product..   

     

    Double wall, and mass will be your friend..

     

     


  8. I built a dedicated soundproof listening room for my Jubilee / 1502 combo.

    dimensions are 14'w/20'l/8.5'H

     

    You'll need 4 channels of amplification and a preamp that has precuts ( preferably XLR)

     

    Feel free to message me if you have any questions.

     

    Erik


  9. Hey Klipsch family!

     

    Call out to all veteran Jubilee and Khorn owners. 

     

    Have been toying with the idea idea of moving my Jubilees from the short wall to long wall.  

     

    What are the pros and cons of doing so.  

     

    In doing so I think this will force me to move my seating position against the back wall.   Any issues with this?

     

    Room is 14’x20’ 

     

    Thanks,

     

    Erik


  10. 17 minutes ago, rplace said:

     

    Sorry for the Hijack,

     

    Really!!?? You are closer to me than the Dansko Company Store that my wife always wants to hit up when we drive between Harford County, MD and Kennett Square PA for lunch on a lazy Saturday afternoon? I ride my bicycle all over US Rt 1 in MD and PA. You are virtually right around the corner from me. PM coming in the near future if I can be so bold as to invite myself. Digital/Vinyl, Tubes/SS, Active/Passive, Beer/Bourbon inquiring minds want to know?

    Small world!   Digital & Vinyl but more of a vinyl rig... Hybrid System, Tube Preamp, and SS amps...  Active and yes I enjoy both!


  11. 31 minutes ago, audioquest4life said:

    Great feedback all, thank you. I will definitely try to find a way to audition these someday soon. Anyone with Jubilees close to Manassas Virginia, or within a day drive? I also go to Michigan frequently so that is not out of the question either. Have you noticed the trend in Japanese audio lately, or for years for that matter? The Japanese audio enthusiasts seemed to have embraced horns earlier and more so than Americans. Just an observation from many European Audio forums I visit. I was once under the spell of regular speakers, but it’s all an illusion. 

    I'm in 19363 if you wanted to take a trek up....   


  12. 29 minutes ago, audioquest4life said:

    Anyone close to Manassas Virginia? Looking to listen to a set of factory Jubilees. On the contact sheet their are two listed in Richmond VA. Are these folks still living there and are they factory Jubilees? If you are in the net, send me a PM. I would love to audition the Jubilees. Any neighboring states besides Virginia; Maryland, West Virginia, even North Carolina and Pa I would be willing to travel to. Thanks in advance. 

    I'm in 19363 ( oxford, pa)     we could possibly make something happen if your up for the road trip.

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  13. On 11/20/2019 at 2:18 PM, Chris A said:

     

     

    This is why I have been talking about the "fractional order crossovers" (i.e., Danley-style) and shortening down the KPT-402-HF assemblies toward the bass bins.  I think that most Jubilee owners are sitting on a gold mine of unrealized sound quality potential that they haven't yet heard. 

     

    I'm convinced that this is part of that 5% that PWK used to talk about (as Roy reported).  It's that last 5% of performance that brings so much subjective sound improvement.

     

    Chris


    I would have to agree with Chris.    Lowering the 402's and applying a fractional order crossover was a game changer and I do not see myself changing back.

    Since learning how to utilize the fractional order crossover concept I have also applied this to my 1502 subwoofer as well..

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  14. I too festered over adding a digital source to my analog/vinyl front end.     

     

    (Dont take my bluntness as being arrogant, but... Get over it..)

     

    The Xilica brings so much to the table for Jubilees, it would be almost foolish to try to go passive..

     

    I would be very surprised to see a passive network sound better than a dialed in Jubilee setup with an active DSP. 

     

    TAD TD-4002....    To be honest, they are not worth the money at the current unobtainium costs they are going for... Plus its always a gamble if the BE diaphragms are in working order, if not your in it for even more money.

     

    Instead, opt for the Faital HF20AT drivers or the Radian BE drivers.

    The Faitals are now discontinued but you can still find them at a fraction of the price of the TAD and the Radian BE.

     

    I am currently running the Faital HF20AT drivers with a First Watt J2 amp it would be very very hard to tell the difference between the TADs in a blind test.

     

    My last suggestion would be trying to go all balanced if possible.

     

    Jubilees are not for the faint of heart and while Cory and Roy do their best to get these things as close as possible to Plug and Play, it will take some serious time to dial them in for that last 10% of fidelity...    It took me  just over a year to get mine to where i would say they are perfect.

     

    Good luck with your Jubilee journey, they will be the last speaker you will ever own.

     

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  15. 5 minutes ago, Chris A said:

    Once you see how it works...and do it a couple of times...it's like riding a bicycle. 🚲  You'll never will go back to using canned crossover filters either once you hear the difference.  The sound quality difference isn't close.

     

    This little process works fairly fast if you're in-room and can make observations on measurements and make immediate adjustments, then rerun the sweep.  You'll have to check that you've got the driver polarity right ( :laugh: ).  Make sure that there's plenty of absorption on the floor and nearby walls before you start the process--at least a couple inches thick and several feet wide, all the way to the microphone from the loudspeaker under test/adjustment.

     

    Chris

    I'm looking forward to loading the latest revision then walking though the steps again to see the effect on each change.

    Once i get this other issue straightened out, I'll be all over it...   

    -e


  16. 3 minutes ago, Chris A said:

    IIR filters only--no "named" crossover filters, i.e., Danley-style. 

     

    Look at the raw response of your drivers/horns.  Without FIR filtering, you can't improve on the response that you see there after they've been EQed flat (individually).  So you need to select drivers and horns that have good phase response characteristics.  It just so happens that the Jub bass bins and TAD 4002/K-402 horns have really good phase response taken individually--after they've been EQed flat by themselves.

     

    So all you have to do is put the HF and LF drivers together without phase shifts:

    1. Don't use the "crossover filters" that come with DSP crossovers--clear any crossover filters if they're set.
    2. Set the HF or LF channel delay to get perfect impulse response in the time domain--as seen in the spectrogram view.
    3. Flatten each driver's SPL response within their pass bands.
    4. Match the channel gains between flattened phase drivers.
    5. Use output channel PEQs to trim off response on each end of the bass and high frequency drivers until you've got overall flat SPL across the crossover interference band and smooth handover of SPL vs. frequency.  The drivers themselves will tell you where that transition/crossover should occur.  [If you're using MEHs, you'll have to use multiple PEQs to attenuate the bass bin peaks in response above the first notch frequency.]
    6. Use the input PEQs to further flatten the overall response within the interference band to correct any dips or peaks in response within that band.

    Voila!  Flat phase.  It's really that easy.

     

    Chris

    Chris, you make it sound easy  ;)

     

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