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What is GOOD? What does GOOD mean, exactly? Thank you for your help, Analogman

Allan, With the exception of your manly posts about cars and car part thingies in the Spanish Speaking Forum, I am left to come to no other conclusion except that you must be one of us, the misfits, as it were. Furniture, film, fashion, the theatre, MUSIC, vintage EVERYTHING!, eclectic, dark smokey hard bop jazz, and yes, HI-FI, there just doesn't seem to be an end to the list, of which you know everything there is to know, just an all around "Man About Town", Gatsby sort of a gadfly. In eager anticipation, my heart yearns for the day that you come out and let us get a little better acquainted with the REAL ALLAN SONGER. Waiting in painful anticipation, Analogman

---------------- On 1/20/2005 2:44:49 PM Allan Songer wrote: ---------------- On 1/19/2005 9:07:50 AM Amy Unger wrote: I agree, it's much harder to imitate someone convincingly, especially such a character like Ray Charles, who everyone knows. Tom Cruise hasn't won any Oscars... up for Born on the 4th, Jerry Maguire, and supporting for Magnolia (which he SHOULD have won, IMO...lost to Michael Caine for Cider House Rules)...Magnolia's a terrific movie, BTW ---------------- I agree with you about Magnolia and Tom Cruise's performance. I actually did some work on that film (only one set--the living room where the character played by Jason Robards was dying). I am a huge admirier of PT Anderson. From "Hard Eight" to "Punch Drunk Love" he has never made a false move. I would rank "Boogie Nights" as one of the ten best fillms of the 1990's. ---------------- Stop it!!! You silly name dropper you! Allan, are you a gay man? Just curious. Analogman

Everything else aside, B&W definitely knows how to SELL speakers, as well as make them. Analogman

You may very well be correct. Think about what I suggested, if it applies. As always, Analogman

pay no attention to that BS behind the curtain. Analogman

---------------- On 1/22/2005 10:35:19 PM Audio Flynn wrote: Analog man; The "be realistic" was not intended to be sacastic? Just trying to find reasonable values for NEWBIES and those of modest means, including myself. The recent Stereophile has an editorial on how being over priced and snobish continues to decline the music and audio business. Budget items may not be in vogue, but hopefully have a future purpose for getting potential hobbyists involved who read this forum who are "on the fence". ---------------- ____________________________________________________________ I don't know what I can do or say, at this point, to help you realize that I CONCUR. These are my words from another thread, another topic, asked by a "NEWBIE", (God, I hate that "new age" adjective): ____________________________________________________________ analogman Insane Poster Total Posts: 330 Last Post: 1/22/2005 Member Since: 7/25/2002 Subscribe to this author ---------------- On 1/19/2005 5:51:25 AM silversport wrote: What about the Outlaw Audio amps??? I am new to all this and would like to know what your thoughts are, those of you with superior amps and more money than I (...and I bet that's a lot, here.) Seriously, any help would be appreciated. 7100?...755?... Bill ---------------- Don't lose sight of the fact that HIGH PRICE does NOT guarantee HIGH PERFORMANCE. They are OFTEN mutually exclusive. Never tender apology for what makes YOUR ears HAPPY. Respectfully, Analogman Revisions : 0 / Posted: 1/22/2005 5:42:33 PM / IP: Recorded On another note, what is "sacastic"? Is your wife the better speller of you two, maybe you should let her post for you? That's SARCASM Advocate for (and still, after all these years) a NOVICE, Respectfully, Analogman P.S. I'm SO OLD, I can remember when people spoke ENGLISH! (A SARCASTIC remark)

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a fool and his money... Analogman

"One more One", Anything that makes your system sound better to your ears for only $69.00, or .69 cents for that matter, is worth the money. As for protection, be realistic, as artto pointed out. It's an elaborate fuse. Bear in mind however, that direct hits from lightening can put the most modern cities in the dark, that is why you have good home owners insurance. As always, Analogman

---------------- On 1/22/2005 8:51:28 PM Audio Flynn wrote: As for protection, be realistic, as artto pointed out. It's an elaborate fuse. ++++++++++++++ I did not call the subject "surge protector" purposely. Read closer please. My house has had serious surges twice in the past 10 years due to lightning striking less than 100 yards away. Both cases were so severe I had to file claims wth the insurance company for my homeowners. I unplug all of my equipment during serious storms and vacations. Surge protectors have limited effectiveness at best. These thread comments focus only on a budget concious strategy to reduce (power filtering) the EMI and RFI effects in the AC from the sum of the motors and digital equipment throughout your house. My house is 50 years old and has 4 kids worth of poorly designed and built electronics plugged in all over the place. Likely there is EMI contamination of the AC to some degree. ---------------- You should read for comprehension and meaning. I was supporting your purchase 100%, on at least three levels. I was pointing out that as good as it may be, (dubious), even the esotericaly priced stuff that others were promoting doesn't have a chance against "Acts Of God". I don't know what it is about males and audio that brings to the surface so much insecurity. I, myself use the Monster HTS 2000, a more expensive version of the same thing you bought, and had told the wife I was going to buy the Belkin based upon your thorough post with pictures. Had already heard about it prior, your experience helped to confirm, at least to my satisfaction. You got the same thing I got for half the price. Where's the rub. You people can't read. Thanks for the heads up, Analogman

---------------- On 1/22/2005 9:03:44 PM jdm56 wrote: I always have linked speaker dispersion to liveness of sound and size of images, but not to center image depth specifically, but I suppose it may be related, too. My B&W's (703's) ARE a bit hot on top, but, at least in my room, there is no bass hump that is noticable or measurable. In fact, the bass range measures fairly flat (31-200Hz, +/-4 dB's relative to the 1kHz level). As for placement issues, yes these B&W's are sensitive to room placement, but at least I can put'em where they sound best. With the big horns, there were no options. And since the corners were not good for bass, and the room was too small to move them out from the corners, I was basically hosed. One factor, at least with regards to MY preferences: I NEVER liked "front row center" at concerts or movies anyway. Give me a nice centered mid-hall seat every time! ---------------- The 703s are the current incarnation of the CDM-1. I can tell you that mine improved, DRAMATICALLY, after they got some hours on them. Run them out of phase with one another, face to face, with some pink and white noise for 24 hours a day, for a couple of days, and then see what you think, unless you are already satisfied that they are "broken in". I have found they work best out in the room, at least three feet, but ultimately determined by room size. Regards, Analogman

---------------- On 1/22/2005 8:30:30 PM mandi wrote: Okay, now do not laugh. I went to an Estate Auction that was advertising Klipsch speakers. I got there and it was a set of KG 3.2s and a KV 2 center. After a fast call home to see what these were going for at auctions, I decided to set my limit to 75 bucks. Sell the center and give the 3.2s to my nephew for graduation. Well they sold them together and they sold for 175 I think. Well, I hung around late(or should I say early morning) and bought a box of LPs. About 60 LPs for 15 bucks. Hmm, I did not have anything to play them on. So, I went to some places I new had used TTs and was finding them for 30 to 40 bucks. But it was as-is. I hated spending 30 -40, getting home and them not working. So I went to Radio Shack and bought their cheapy. So, I am turning Vinyl and it sounds sweet!! Listening to a little Tommy Dorsey at the moment and " The mamas and the papas" are on deck. Never heard of Hod and Marc but they are pretty good. Now, I am enjoying the moment, inspired to have a BM from another post. Now the question is,,,,,,,,what is a better TT going to do for me? ---------------- Congratulations! I don't know anything to say about what you bought from Radio Shack, but to be honest it's probably not a very high performance table. A well made table will allow you to hear a great deal more music that's in those grooves than a cheapy will. A well made table will also allow your records to last longer, as it will do less damage to the playing surface. If you truely get hooked you will soon learn that you can spend serious money on records and you will want to take as good care of them as possible. Even if you only buy used and thrift store records, they can still be valuable, sonicly and financially. There are many choices available in decent tables, new and used, for less than $500.00 that will give you a great deal of what records have to offer, and will cause no harm. Enjoy, Analogman

---------------- On 1/22/2005 7:42:03 PM thebes wrote: So the sonic qualities of tube amps don't deteriorate over time and output tubes are more important than input tubes? ---------------- Part 1: No, the sonics WILL deteriorate over time, everything wears out eventually Part 2: The chain is only as strong as it's weakest link Say hello to the Twins, Analogman

Anything that makes your system sound better to your ears for only $69.00, or .69 cents for that matter, is worth the money. As for protection, be realistic, as artto pointed out. It's an elaborate fuse. Bear in mind however, that direct hits from lightening can put the most modern cities in the dark, that is why you have good home owners insurance. As always, Analogman

---------------- On 1/22/2005 9:43:15 AM dougdrake wrote: Hey gang - Doing a cosmetic restoration on my Fisher integrated tube amp. Seems the best thing to clean up the chassis is Mother's Billet Polish. There is black lettering on the chassis (connector labels, tube labels by the sockets, etc...). Can this stuff (billet polish) be used and not remove that lettering? Anyone have any experience cleaning up a chassis with this kind of lettering on it? Thanks in advance - Doug ---------------- AVOID the lettering. Use Q-Tips or equivalent to work up as closely to it as you can and still maintain control. You have NO WAY to KNOW the condition of the lettering beyond visual appearance. Don't polish it unless you are prepared to have it replaced or to live without it. Regards, Analogman

---------------- On 1/22/2005 6:24:41 PM NOSValves wrote: Just about everything in there is marketing. ---------------- Scare them into giving us more money by perpetuating the MYTH "dealership mechanics" are the BEST, "why they're factory trained dear"! Analogman

---------------- On 1/22/2005 1:03:11 PM bsafirebird1969 wrote: time delay/ dispersion/ horn beaming .. all account for this .. ---------------- Yes. Sorry I unintentionally excluded your response Analogman

I can't understand the meaning behind any answer given to this question, without first asking, "how do you have them set up?", EXCEPT DrWho's, and he is correct. B&Ws are super sensitive to PLACEMENT, PLACEMENT, PLACEMENT! I know, I've owned several pair and currently own the CDM-1 SE. That's why I am currently using Klipsch and a vintage pair of Apollos. I'm keeping the B&Ws safely in their box in my closet. Although they are a LOVELY sounding speaker, they are too idiosyncratic with regards to room placement and I have too small a space for them at present. The ones I have owned have seemed to need a lot of juice to get going as well. The Klipsch (and the Apollos) are "in your face" wherever I put them so I quit wasting alot of time trying to beat the laws of physics in a crummy room and listen to more music. Regards, Analogman

---------------- On 1/19/2005 5:51:25 AM silversport wrote: What about the Outlaw Audio amps??? I am new to all this and would like to know what your thoughts are, those of you with superior amps and more money than I (...and I bet that's a lot, here.) Seriously, any help would be appreciated. 7100?...755?... Bill ---------------- Don't lose sight of the fact that HIGH PRICE does NOT guarantee HIGH PERFORMANCE. They are OFTEN mutually exclusive. Never tender apology for what makes YOUR ears HAPPY. Respectfully, Analogman

Hello again, I have a friend that uses a current model Harman/Kardon A/V integrated amp which sounds very well. I can not speak to particulars or to build quality, but it does sound well. Seems a lot of people feel the same way, for what THAT'S worth. As always, Analogman

ROTEL: IF BUYING NEW AND UNDER $1000.00 M.S.R.P. Over achiever for the MONEY, very well built for the MONEY, many features for the MONEY, good parts choices for the MONEY, can't say with regard to their A/V or multi-channel lineup, but their 2-channel gear is very serviceable, decent boards and layout, sound quality is good to very, very good depending on model, for the MONEY. Transformers are good quality, for the MONEY. I own two older Rotel products, one of which is the RA-970BX, which I use as a back-up for my tube integrated when we set up the Christmas tree as the tubes normally occupy a spot on the floor too close to the tree's site for comfort. Certainly not THE last word, but hard to beat in the $1000.00 and under NEW M.S.R.P. For what it's worth, B&W often demos their accessible lines with Rotel stuff. B&W, certainly not the easiest load in the world, and who would obviously have an interest at stake. Rotel also seems to be honest and relatively conservative with their power claims. Regards, Analogman

Hello, These guys have a nice pair. They're asking $1000.00. Ask for Rich and tell him Craig sent you. Good luck, Analogman Location (Directions) and Store Hours The Sound Well is located at 1718 University Avenue in Berkeley. By Car: From Interstate 80 take the University Avenue exit and head towards the hills (east) away from the Bay. We are roughly 1 1/4 miles from the freeway. The nearest cross street is McGee. Parking is generally available on the street. It is METERED parking - so be aware and don't get a ticket! By BART: Get off at the Downtown Berkeley station. Walk three blocks north to University Avenue. Take a left and walk 3 1/2 blocks west to the store. Our retail operation is open Friday and Saturday from 9:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. and Sunday from noon to 4 p.m. All times are Pacific Time (we're on the coast of California). The retail store is closed Monday through Thursday except by appointment - if you have gear to sell. We answer the phone live 10 a.m. to 11 a.m. many days that we are closed. You can also E-Mail us: sales@thesoundwell.com and we will respond promptly. Phone: 510-549-2126 FAX: 510-549-2156

---------------- On 1/21/2005 4:57:05 PM Gramas701 wrote: i have a question al green did lean on me right? well so did bill withers? and they are the same song straight up, therefore are they the same person or whats the deal? i have been wodnering that for a while and no one has the answer ---------------- Hello, I don't own every recording Al Green ever made, so I don't know. I was not aware that he ever did "Lean On Me". Analogman

---------------- On 1/20/2005 11:21:27 PM Dylanl wrote: Nice to have you back you son of UH? a gun you. Just Thought I would add that for old time sake. ---------------- Thank you my friend. I missed the exchange. Regards, Analogman