Foxman

This post is in response to a question about good SACD multichannel music options. The key to this is "MULTICHANNEL SACD's" So while there are some good one's that are DVD-A's and some SACD's that arent multichannel they arent what this is about. First and foremost on my list would be: Dark Side of the Moon, by Pink Floyd. Most would agree that this is all around a fine example of preporation meets opportunity. This disk was made for multichannel and finaly we have a pristine example of what happens when two fabulous worlds colide. I really like it if you couldnt tell. Elton John's self titled multichannel hybrid (as with most of his recent releases is another fine example, while I tend to be in the minority of opinions of the quality of this particular recording, most agree that if you had nothing other than Goodbye Yellowbrick road you would have done a good job. As it is I have all of his hybrid multichannel works and enjoy all of them with his self titled disk being my favorite of all. Nickle Creeks self titled multichannel is a nice delve into blue grass with some excellent lively recordings and fun lyrics. As Klipsch fans this style of music really jumps out of the speakers and fills the room with clarity that is hard to surpass. Nickle Creek also has another that is equally good called "This Side" and it enjoys all the qualities of the previously mentioned disk. Alison Krauss and Union Station Live is another fun bluegrass disk that has a lot of similarities to Nickle Creek and it's no wonder as she was very involved with Nickle Creek if memorie serves me right. Between this disk and the Nickle Creeks if I had to choose I would Choose Nickle Creeks This Side. Eric Clapton has released two by his own name, 461 Ocean Blvd and Slowhand. I thourouly enjoyed both but Slowhand is my favorite. Great material and fantastic sound. Clapton also released Derek and the Dominos "Layla" and is fairly equivalent to his other work in terms of multichannel. I prefer the Clapton disk over Layla for content, but thats just me. Bon Jovi This Left Feels Right is a SACD that you wont find a lot of people raving about because many do not own it. Bon Jovi has taken most all of his big hits and completely redone them with a totaly new style and add to that a Multichannel mix, I enjoyed it. The Allman Brothers "Eat a Peach" is another great classic cd that has been touched up with a multichannel sound that really adds depth and a new sense to this masterpiece. If Jazz is a option there are a couple. Telarc has two Jazz samplers and both are fantastic. Telarc has several sampler's but the Sampler 1 and 3 are both all Jazz and they really give you a ton of differant artists and being typical Telarc they are some of the best recordings on the market. Dianna Krall has several offerings but "Girl in The Other Room" in particular is fabulous for content. The multichannel aspect might be a bit soft, but it is a great addition to any jazz fans library. Roxy Music "Avalon" offers some fabulous multichannel sound and very high quality content. This would be a must own imo. In fact right behind the Telarc samplers and Pink Floyd's DSOTM I would purchase Roxy Music. If you like the Carpenters then believe it or not their Singles 1969-1981 disk sounds about as fresh and clean as anything you'll buy. While maybe not the greatest example of multichannel music, it is still a fun recording. Berlioz: Requiem if you like Classical/Opera/Chamber music is another Telarc recording and for this Genre will offer as good a multichannel experiance as anything available. Once again being Telarc the quality is unmatched. Beethoven: Symphonies no 5&7 / Kleiber, Vienna PO is a fine disk and features some of my favorite Classical pieces. LAGQ "Guitar Heros" features 4 guitar players playing literally in-sync one in each corner of the room. So, one guy play in your rear right throught the disk and one plays in your right front ect ect. A really neat disk that is a pure joy to listen to if for nothing else to try to figure out what each player is doing. This disk is almost sensory over load. These are just a few of the SACD's that I own, there are many MANY more out there that are fine examples of multichannel music that I do not own. Also keep in mind these like everything I post, are my opinions, your miles may vary.

---------------- On 5/4/2005 2:57:43 PM mattbugz wrote: ---------------- On 5/4/2005 1:23:58 PM foxman wrote: Online stores will in fact offer a much broader selection than most any B&M store with a few possible exceptions. Best Buy only has a sparce collection in my area, but CC has done away with the format. As far as not finding any good multichannel disk's in SACD, then I would suggest listing music preferances because there are a ton available with very good Multichannel mixes. Norah Jones disk isnt a good example of Multichannel for sure. ---------------- I listen to just about anything. I'm just looking for a good example of SACD that will make me appreciate the format in multichannel. On a side note, I think the sun is setting for SACD (perhaps even DSD). Sony has already abandoned new releases and you've already mentioned a retailer giving up on the format as well (in addition to DVD-A, but I think the latter still has a bit of hope). ---------------- alright Matt, I will not Hi Jack this thread further, but rather start a new thread on the subject with some suggestions

---------------- On 5/4/2005 12:07:43 PM mattbugz wrote: Yes, you've found that B&M stores have a very poor selection of high res audio. I found a local Fry's had the best selection, but still inadequate. Check out: AcousticSounds.com for a wider selection of SACD/DVD-A I've yet to find a good SACD that delivers excellent multichannel. I purchased Norah Jones and that was an absolute waste since the multichannel conversion was beyond poor. ---------------- Online stores will in fact offer a much broader selection than most any B&M store with a few possible exceptions. Best Buy only has a sparce collection in my area, but CC has done away with the format. As far as not finding any good multichannel disk's in SACD, then I would suggest listing music preferances because there are a ton available with very good Multichannel mixes. Norah Jones disk isnt a good example of Multichannel for sure.

Very good indeed, we very much enjoyed this one.

So whats the name of this video?????

---------------- On 4/18/2005 9:17:58 PM Grateful11 wrote: Saw them live in Greensboro, NC on the "Highway To Hell" Tour in '79. I'm thinking they had Molly Hatchet and Mother's Finest with them, could be wrong though. I see Circuit City has this DVD for $16 no bad. Now if I could just find that '79 concert T-shirt. Grateful11 ---------------- I saww them in Greensboro, NC as well.....but it was between 85-88

I had originaly missed this release and it wasnt until I read someones praises of the disk did I realize what quality it was. Excellent work indeed. It was great to see Plant and Page performing their work. Some of the stuff they re-arainged wasnt as great as the original, but I get the need to freshen-up the tunes as many bands do.

I got railroaded into a cat within the past 7 or 8 months. The first time she started to "Stretch" while using the SVS is when we finalized plans for declawing. I thought the tips mentioned about having a good scratching post near her/his spot and clipper his/her nails was also a good suggestion. As far as wires, mine doesnt seem very intersted in mine. As far as speakers, I agree there that you need to put the grills back on. They will be cheaper to repair if need be than the cones. Again, my kitty never approached the RF's for some reason on the SVS. That was enough for me.

---------------- On 4/20/2005 4:40:01 PM SteelerFan wrote: I'm just happy to hear the poor old RS-7 get some love. It seems they are becoming the red headed step-child of the reference line. ---------------- I agree it seems that way. I posted more than once before buying mine asking questions about surrounds and it seems no-one cared about the RS-7's.

---------------- On 4/20/2005 3:40:27 PM iwillwalk wrote: hey foxman is that you on your avater? ---------------- Uhhh no. But I did sleep at a Holiday inn express last night

I have a similar situation with our coach (up against the wall). I am using RS-7's on the walls for the surround speakers but I decided to drop a couple speakers I had on the floor behind the coach and it did make a big differance in the depth of the movies. I didnt have a pair of RS-7's laying around so I am using some Boston CR-7's that I robbed from our bedroom and replaced them with some old Boston HD-5's that were spair speakers. Anyway, yes I have tried it, and it works very well. Congrats on this improvement, I know I enjoy the enhanced surround experiance.

Three of us watched this the other night and very much enjoyed it. The two main characters reminded me of my best friend and my Uncle, so it helped me relate to the story a bit. Funny stuff. Clearly not for everyone.

Dude has great taste in HT. Anyone notice his choice for a AVR? Rotel.

Just curious if anyone has checked this out yet? I have it, but am unable to play it until after the 22nd...long story. # DVD Release Date: March 29, 2005 # DVD Features: * Available Audio Tracks: English (PCM Stereo) * Over 3 hours of classic videos, live footage and TV appearances from 1975 to 1993 * Includes the classic home video titles Clipped, Fly On The Wall and Who Made Who - never before on DVD * 12 page full-color DVD booklet * 5 alternate video versions: Its A Long Way To The Top/Jailbreak/Highway to Hell/You Shook Me All Night Long/Nervous Shakedown * Full catalog discography * DVD 1 (1975 - 1980) * 1. Baby Please Dont Go (live, April 1975) * 2. Show Business (live, June 1975) * 3. High Voltage (promo clip, June 1975) * 4. Its A Long Way To The Top (promo clip, February 1976) * 5. T.N.T. (live, 1976) * 6. Jailbreak (promo clip 1976) * 7. Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap (live, December 1976) * 8. Dog Eat Dog (promo clip, 1977) * 9. Let There Be Rock (promo clip, 1977) * 10. Rock N Roll Damnation (promo clip, 1978) * 11. Sin City (from The Midnight Special, September 1978) * 12. Riff Raff (live from Glascow, April 1978) * 13. Fling Thing/Rocker (live from Glascow, April 1978) * 14. Whole Lotta Rosie (Iive from BBC show Rock Goes To * College, October 1978) * 15. Shot Down In Flames (promo clip, July 1979) * 16. Walk All Over You (promo clip, July 1979) * 17. Touch Too Much (promo clip July 1979) * 18. If You Want Blood (promo clip, July 1979) * 19. Girls Got Rhythm (live from Aplauso TV Show, February 1980) * 20. Highway To Hell (live from Aplauso TV Show, February 1980) * DVD 2 (1980 -1993) * 1. Hells Bells (promo clip, 1980 * 2. Back In Black (promo clip, 1980) * 3. What Do You Do For Money Honey (promo clip, 1980) * 4. Rock And Roll Aint Noise Pollution (promo clip, 1980) * 5. Lets Get it Up (live promo clip, 1981) * 6. For Those About To Rock (live promo clip, 1983) * 7. Flick Of The Switch (promo clip, 1984) * 8. Nervous Shakedown (promo clip, 1984) * 9. Fly On The Wall (promo clip, 1985) * 10. Danger (promo clip, 1985) * 11. Sink The Pink (promo clip, 1985) * 12. Stand Up (promo clip, 1985) * 13. Shake Your Foundations (promo clip, 1985) * 14. Who Made Who (promo clip, 1986) * 15. You Shook Me All Night Long (promo clip, 1985) * 16. Heatseeker (promo clip, 1988) * 17. Thats The Way I Wanna Rock & Roll (promo clip, 1988) * 18. Thunderstruck (promo clip, 1990) * 19. Moneytalks (promo clip, 1990) * 20. Are You Ready (promo clip, 1991) * Number of discs: 2 Editorial Reviews Amazon.com Although this compilation ends fifteen years before its 2005 release, the double disc video summation of AC/DCs colorful career from 1975-1990 is a bonanza for fans and an education for newcomers. Like fellow boogie veterans ZZ Top, these clips range from acceptable to embarrassingly dated, but through it all AC/DCs intensity and trooper status remain intact. Conveniently divided with 20 videos on each platter that split the bands two vocalists (Disc 1, the Bon Scott era and Disc 2, the Brian Johnson years), this is a frills-free, no extras rundown of a journeyman outfit whose roaring blues rock hasnt noticeably changed over the years. Still, lead guitarist Angus Youngs Chuck Berry on amphetamines duck walk, and the groups thunderous, riff-happy sound remains a force of rock and roll nature, impervious to trends or fads. There are some disappointing moments--the "Fly On The Wall" mini-movie of five tunes joined by a silly storyline with bad dancing, worse acting and substandard animation can charitably be considered a failed experiment--but the powerhouse energy of the Australian rockers never lags even in its weakest video moments. This treasure trove of rare television appearances, promo clips and assorted odds and ends isnt as much fun as seeing the group live, but delivers a history lesson along with a knockout, 2 ½ hour punch thats nearly as potent. Hal Horowitz Description Its always been quite rare to see AC/DC - unless you go to their concerts. Television appearances, and later music videos, have always been a necessary evil to this band of nononsense rockers. Consequently, only their early years were documented on television - mostly in Australia and Europe - and when the time came to switch to promotional video clips, the band always made their own and gave them the appearance of a live show. But theyve also never wasted an opportunity to make a big statement with their clips. From singer Bon Scott dressing like a school girl (to Angus Youngs school boy) and smoking(!) on their first major television appearance, to the giant rocking spectacle of the "Big Gun" video (with guest appearance by Arnold Schwarzenegger), AC/DC has always been larger than life and their timeless brand of rock and roll has been as big on screen as it has off. Now for the first time Epic Records is proud to announce the first ever compilation of AC/DC videos from all parts of their storied career. Starting in 1975 on Australian TVs Countdown show through the Spanish TV clips filmed just ten days before Bon Scotts death - the first great era of the band is chronicled on Disc One. Disc Two starts with the promo videos for Back In Black (several never before available) and sees many of the 80s and 90s clips on DVD for the first time. This is truly a monumental collection of clips from one of the worlds greatest bands - all completely remastered for DVD with the same care as the Epic CD remasters and the Live At Donington DVD.

WOW, we just watched it last night and I must say that if my Mom were alive and I watched it with her, I would have had to just leave. It was tough enough explaining to my wife why I knew what wanking was and what all the internet chat shortcuts meant. We liked the movie very much, I especially liked the way it ended. Poor schmuck just couldnt catch a break. When you play with fire you will get burned.

Well I am generaly VERY easy to please and probably to a fault. I seldom critique movies but having prefaced this with that; this movie was boring at times. I thought the writing and editing left a lot to be desired. Probably more so the editing. We started to watch the some of the extra's but my wife was really wanting to get to sleep so I cut that short, but you could tell from some of the extended scenes that didnt make the cut that the writing is at least partly to blame. ********SPOILER********** Example of poor writing in the extended scene I saw was when the model airplane designer was coming up with the idea of having the people lay flat on the wings . The scene was stupid even by my standards as he explained that clearly someone wouldnt survive and thats why there was one short on his drawing, and then one guy gets shot later. I thought that scene was very melodramatic as well. The scene that started me wondering about the editing was when Quades character went looking for the guy that wondered off, they sort of chopped that scene up and showed a glimpse of the guy who wondered off because the audiance had no way to know which guy it was since his character had no impact on the movie. Something about the way that scene was edited was nasty. Another was when they had to dig the Phoenix out, one minute the guy bends over to start and the next they are dragging that plane across the desert. Sorry to be so critical and believe it or not I was OK with the movie but mainly because of the PQ and SQ. When I start noticing things like I mentioned then it MUST be a poor movie because I never notice. I give it 1 out of 5

I picked it up Tuesday but havent had a chance to view it yet. DTS is on the IMAX version only. Here is a quote I found interesting: This 2-DVD set offers both the original edition of the movie and the IMAX version, which cuts down the film by 24 minutes (unfortunately, some character moments have been dropped and while that is a major issue, part of me did feel that this edition ran a little tighter) and has the aspect ratio of the film at 1.66:1, instead of the film's original 2.35:1 aspect ratio. "Apollo 13" was the first film to undergo this process. Others, including the "Matrix" movies and, more recently, "Robots", have also undergone this process. The technology has advanced so that, as far as I'm aware (when I saw "Matrix: Revolutions" and the third "Harry Potter", they were the full cuts), films no longer need to be recut to fit the IMAX reels, as "Apollo 13" was. From the IMAX website: "IMAX digital re-mastering starts by converting a 35mm frame into digital form at very high resolution, capturing all the detail from the original. Our proprietary software mathematically analyses and extracts the important image elements in each frame from the original grainy structure to create a pristine form of the original photography. This is the most complex step in IMAX digital re-mastering. The image on a 35mm film frame is comprised of a fine grain structure like that of all photographic images. This grain when projected on to the IMAX screen looks like a TV channel that isn't quite tuned to the station. Removing this grain while preserving the quality of the underlying image is the basis of IMAX DMR. To create the brightness and clarity that audiences have come to expect from The IMAX Experience®, IMAX uses a proprietary computer program to make the images sharper than they were originally, while colors are adjusted for the unique technically superior characteristics of the IMAX screen. The completed re-mastered film is then transferred onto the world's largest film format, 15-perforations 70mm." The DVD VIDEO: The film is presented in two different aspect ratios on this release. The theatrical version, included on the first disc, is presented in 2.35:1 anamorphic widescreen. The IMAX edition, available on the second disc, is offered in 1.66:1 anamorphic widescreen. The theatrical version of the film looks terrific, as it has been given a new transfer. The IMAX version, with the digital remastering done for the format, looks spectacular. Sharpness and detail are excellent on both versions, although the IMAX version has a really nice level of depth to the image. Both presentations suffer from very few flaws. Both editions do show some mild edge enhancement in a few scenes, but I didn't find this to be particularly irritating. Both editions showed no pixelation and only a couple very tiny instances of print flaws. Colors were bright and well-saturated, with no smearing or other faults. Black level looked solid, while flesh tones appeared accurate.

---------------- On 3/9/2005 12:35:23 AM toddvj wrote: ---------------- On 3/7/2005 2:01:08 PM foxman wrote: ...Pitch Black has a scene that lasts for a while in total darkness save for a really bright flashing light and that does get a little old. ---------------- Hence, the name... ---------------- Yeah but this movie should come with an epilectic warning on the cover.

---------------- On 3/19/2005 12:15:08 PM tkdamerica wrote: Foxman, The lack of titles that I listen to, forced me to experiment with other music. I am a rock and roller at heart, who in the last few years have enjoyed female country singers. I am trying to develop an appreciation of classical, but it hasn't sunk in yet. ---------------- I am pretty much in that same boat. Before multichannel I never owned a single piece of Jazz, had never listened to Linkin Park, Metalica let alone heard of Porcupine Tree. I was/am a classic rock fan that always tried to like classical and very much enjoyed believe or not contemporary christian music. It's amazing what the pursuit of good multichannel music will due to your normal music endevors. I have grown to really like Jazz and blue grass and Classical is a work in progress.

---------------- On 3/19/2005 11:53:45 AM tkdamerica wrote: I am EXTREMELY disappointed that DVD-A & SACD technology isn't making it the consumer world. I would love to hear recommendations from fellow forum members and will post some of my observations on those, as well as some more High Res Audio that I think are worthy of comment ---------------- I agree it is very dissapointing. These formats are great IMO. I realize there are many on this forum who really can not get into Multichannel music and thats cool too. Some other fantastic recordings are: DVD-A Linkin Park- Reanimator Porcupine Tree- In Absentia Fleetood Mac- Rumors Queen- A Night at the Opera Eric Clapton & BB King- Riding with the King Metalica- Black album (title unknown) Beach Boys- Pet Sounds Santanna - both available are good. SACD Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon Allison Kraus- Live with Union Station Nickle Creek- This side as well as the other title that I can't think of Elton John- All of the hybrids are great Eric Clapton- Slow Hand, Ocean Blvd & Layla are great Bon Jovi- This left feels right God Smack- Other Side Diana Krall- Any title is good Telarc samplers 1 & 3 that I know of are great I have some classical thats great also. These are just a few.

---------------- On 3/19/2005 8:27:34 AM donnie wrote: Sci-Fi has a winner with this one. Wasn't sure about the mix, but made for a great story. Sound track tops. One scene the launch was so real, the sub made it fantastic. Gotta watch those chapter #s. Sorry can tell right now exactly where it was, but it was most memberable ---------------- Some friendly advice. Do a search for movies before posting your review. Here is a link to the other disussion. http://forums.klipsch.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=61518&sessionID={2DFE75E9-2BA4-4F72-A30A-5F4E1AF3FB5D}

Well I am generaly VERY easy to please and probably to a fault. I seldom critique movies but having prefaced this with that; this movie was boring at times. I thought the writing and editing left a lot to be desired. Probably more so the editing. We started to watch the some of the extra's but my wife was really wanting to get to sleep so I cut that short, but you could tell from some of the extended scenes that didnt make the cut that the writing is at least partly to blame. *****SPoiler Warner Example of poor writing in the extended scene I saw was when the model airplane designer was coming up with the idea of having the people lay flat on the wings . The scene was stupid even by my standards as he explained that clearly someone wouldnt survive and thats why there was one short on his drawing, and then one guy gets shot later. I thought that scene was very melodramatic as well. The scene that started me wondering about the editing was when Quades character went looking for the guy that wondered off, they sort of chopped that scene up and showed a glimpse of the guy who wondered off because the audiance had no way to know which guy it was since his character had no impact on the movie. Something about the way that scene was edited was nasty. Another was when they had to dig the Phoenix out, one minute the guy bends over to start and the next they are dragging that plane across the desert. Sorry to be so critical and believe it or not I was OK with the movie but mainly because of the PQ and SQ. When I start noticing things like I mentioned then it MUST be a poor movie because I never notice. I give it 1 out of 5

Saxxman, wow what a nice looking setup. Congrats on the new toys. I have yet to be able to demo the 75's, I bet they sound great. That system should bring new life to watching movies at home. Klipsch/Rotel a tough combination to beat.

---------------- On 3/9/2005 9:12:20 PM bchild311 wrote: I still ear it though when matching dB output on all my channels. Maybe I'm just retarded. ---------------- Noooo I would never imply that. We all do what we do based on what we have to work with. Like they say; if you like it, thats all that really matters. Oh, and my RS-7's are set way to high because thats the only place I can put them. I have them set to small though as my crossover point is 40hz and as good as they are 40 is a little deep for those speakers. As always, your miles may vary.

---------------- On 3/8/2005 11:24:30 PM bchild311 wrote: Dawg, I think the best SPL meter is your own ears. ---------------- I disagree. It would be very hard to perfectly match the DB output of a particular speaker to match the DB out put of another speaker by ear. Maybe if you had a professionaly trained ear you could get fairly close, but even then the professional would use a meter. Your ear is the only one that will know what sounds good, but we are not talking about what sounds good we are talking about matching the output. Once the output is matched then you will know how it is intended to sound voluume wise, if at that point it does not sound right your ear can be a guide, but I would still recomend a meter so you know how hot a certain speaker is set.