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Overys? Overies? How about sa TURD ay? That caught me just recently. My wife, who is notorious for her spelling corrected me on it. Rudy

Just wondering, my sitting position is approxamately 14' from the front of the speakers and the outside to outside of the walls are only 11' or thereabouts. When I tried Khorns before, only in the corners I was disapointed to say the least. I didn't think to try them straight ahead, damn. Rudy

Hi, sorry to cut in but what would you lose in bass response by not having the Khorn in a corner? Say you have a set of Lascalas and you replaced them with Khorns facing straight away at your listening position. Would you get close to the same amount of bass, less or more?? Rudy (my new name as texas randy taylor as opposed to ohio randy taylor is getting confused by myself as me)

So who makes the EH marketed tubes, Sovtek? Or do they have more than one supplier? Randy

Hey Randy, does sovtek have a good rep for quality? I'm going to change my name here from Randy Taylor to my nickname Rudy. I'm getting confused. Randy Taylor

---------------- On 4/28/2004 2:36:50 AM bdc wrote: I have a pair of '74 Klipschorns with type AA crossovers (with zener diodes) and AlNiCo drivers and they sound absolutely fantastic. However, there doesn't seem to be much high frequency sound coming from them. The tweeters are working (confirmed by ear), but you really can't hear the highs. I've powered these with an HK430 and a Dynaco tube amp. I've used a pair of Fortes in the same room with the same equipment and there's definitely a lot more top end on them. I've tried that 'free crossover tweak' from the earlier thread too, without much difference. ---------------- IF nothing else is helping maybe it's your tube amp. The old dynaco's can be rolled off in the highs. Tubes go bad.Try a different amp and see.

Tried your url, need to sign up or join.

Just got done reading the named thread and it seems it was finally getting back on track when it was killed. Anyway I'm glad to see you Amy.

Reading the Sunday paper and there is a listing for Klipschorns for 2000 dollars or best offer. Don't have any knowledge or interest in them, just wanted to let anyone interested in the area.513-266-8563

Fini, I'm with you, being a sheetmetal worker and ex weldor will do that to you.

I know it doesn't mean much but I love my shure and sota turntable. Just my preferance. I also like the brush down. Seems to me if it's picking up a little dust then there must be some dust to pick up? Takes a lot of the bumps out of the record maybe. Maybe like a shock absorber. Lot of maybes. Tired. Your system sounds like a good one. I'm glad you're enjoying it.

Nice Chris, r

Lost both of my parents to cancer and my wifes Mom as well. My wife went through a bout with breast cancer 4 years ago but is now still clean. Life is tough. Enjoy what time remains. All the best to you smilin. Randy

---------------- On 4/14/2004 8:11:19 PM Erik Mandaville wrote: Hey, Randy: Did you ever try switching tubes? In addition to open filter capacitors being a possible cause for motoboating -- and that didn't help -- another cause can be an open grid pin/grid circuit. These can sometimes be carefully heated on the exterior to once again 'make' the delicate internal connection, but if you've got spare tubes, try them first. There will also be a grid (sometimes grid-leak) resistor that can 'open' and cause this problem. The grid circuits of the tubes can be gone through one at a time, but I hate to hear what the cost of this might become for you. No way am I a Mac expert, but I've heard and read about this problem many times in many different sources. Low frequency oscillation like this is a fairly common problem encountered by antique radio collectors, and it shouldn't be too difficult or costly to fix! Do you have an ohm-meter and a schematic! DON'T DO ANYTHING! I'm just thinking about ways we could maybe cure this thing without having to spend the cost of a brand new component on the replacement one grid resistor. I need to go back and reread your initial post, but is this in one channel only. Have you tried shorting the input to the amp (speaker connected)to see if the problem persists, or is it only when the preamp is connected? Do you know how to short the inputs, and do you have a shorting jack to test this? I can tell you how to make one from a single Radio Shack jack -- it's nothing at all to do! Erik Erik ---------------- Yup, tried switching tubes and it doesn't follow the tubes.

---------------- On 4/12/2004 7:20:18 PM Cleve wrote: Perhaps this is too obvious, but when you said you 'got them back' I'm assuming you had them serviced by an authorized McIntosh tech to correct the motorboating. Won't the service facility stand behind their work? It's not like the problem resurfaced weeks or months later, after the implied warranty has ended. If it were me, I'd ask the service facility to make it right. Also, in the worst case, the Binghamton factory will repair ANY McIntosh product. Good luck! ---------------- Cleve,just received a reply from Mac and they will not due any servicing on my Mac's, they did say they thought it the price was high. They gave me some recommended shops and none of them are close.

---------------- On 4/13/2004 3:23:39 PM LOADEDTUNES wrote: Kinda reminds me of a last visit to the doctor, he gave me some preperation H . On my next visit he asked me how it worked , i said for all the good that stuff done i might just as well shoved it up my ***. ---------------- LOL. that's good.

Was he working for 2 different companies in the 80's when he designed the 10 or did he design it before 1978? Sounds like he's accomplished alot.

And how do I know this guy knows what he's doing or will just do a crap job?

Sorry, the part about him knowing his job didn't show up at first.Just the I think so

---------------- On 4/12/2004 9:48:25 PM Allan Songer wrote: Seems like it! $800 is top dollar to go through a pair of these, but if the guy knows what he is doing and REALLY does the job right . . . . ---------------- Care to elaborate?

---------------- On 4/12/2004 7:20:18 PM Cleve wrote: Perhaps this is too obvious, but when you said you 'got them back' I'm assuming you had them serviced by an authorized McIntosh tech to correct the motorboating. Won't the service facility stand behind their work? It's not like the problem resurfaced weeks or months later, after the implied warranty has ended. If it were me, I'd ask the service facility to make it right. Also, in the worst case, the Binghamton factory will repair ANY McIntosh product. Good luck! ---------------- No, not a mcintosh tech. I went to drop them off at the local mc place and the nice man wanted $200 cash up front. This was after talking to him on the phone about the amps. Nothing was said about a deposit. He then stated it would probably be at least $400 an amp and that the 200 would go towards that, but if I didn't like the estimate I lose the $200. I left with the amps and my money. Am I wrong here?

What next? The small waterfalls you buy would really set off some speakers I bet, cool, clear, sparkling highs. YAHDAH YAHDAH, someone will buy it!

---------------- On 4/12/2004 9:02:16 AM mdeneen wrote: Randy - - Re motorboating. Let me see if I understand this. 1) You sent them out for repair? The cans were replaced? 2) Does it motorboat when: the input is shorted; the output has a 8ohm load on it? Or, only when there is input? mdeneen ---------------- A resitor and the cans were replaced. They both had been sitting for about 5 years. They had worked b/4 putting them away but when I tried them out about 5 months ago they both did this after turning them on with speakers attached and running a cd and pre to them. After the work now only one is motorboating. The first day, Saturday was fine, I had them cranked for 4 hours. It occured the second time I played them, Sunday. I did not put in a cd right away but they were hooked to speakers and the pre was on. I turned them off and tried them a few minutes later with the cd player running and decent volume, they played for four hours with no problem. Turned them on just a few minutes ago and it started to motorboat with the cd playing real soft..turned it off, waited a minute, turned it on and cranked the volume a little and it is running fine? Turned down the volume to make sure that it's not motoring and it's not! So low volume or no volume seems to set it off. Got two packages today and tho it looks like they used them for footballs everything inside is intact and looking good. Still listening after 30 minutes and still no motoring. Randy

thanks for the help, I'll try replacing the noted caps.i have a print here of the circuitry. Randy