John Warren Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Mark-Clarion bought McIntosh 1991. Now you know why McIntosh is into auto sound. It is very much an axis company. (remember Pearl Harbor). This message has been edited by John Warren on 03-13-2002 at 05:49 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacKlipsch Posted March 13, 2002 Author Share Posted March 13, 2002 The issue for me is not who owns the company, what country they are from, but rather how good is the product and how well do they stand behind it and provide customer service....This preamp sounded outstanding in my opinion..my frustration is with the bozos that I have dealt with thus far that represent the company and the crap tubes that they have put in them....they can keep the chinese tubes and send me a coffee mug or something....going to replace them anyway MH....what Mullards 12AX7's do you use in your Cary?...any recommendations on the 12AT7's? This message has been edited by MacKlipsch on 03-13-2002 at 09:24 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1338403483Clarion free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacKlipsch Posted March 14, 2002 Author Share Posted March 14, 2002 Mike, I saw those on e-bay....while I don't necessarily disagree wuth the sentiment, there are better deals out there on these amps than these pair....got mine for $900 from Audio Classics awhile back...small tubes were JJ's and TF....replaced the outputs with Svetlana KT-88's....I also have a MC275 reissue that is the equal to 2 of these in my opinion in spite of the pc board vs point to point wiring debate.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 I understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowooo Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 John, I knew Clarion purchased Mac, but I didn't realize it was that long ago. I recently visited the only store in the Omaha-Lincoln area that carries Mcintosh and they only had two pieces out for display so I'm assuming they have discontinued carrying the product, which kind of struck me as weird considering the market and the fact there the only dealer. Well, my search will continue on. Looked at a couple preamps from Marsh, anyone have any insight on there products? Thanks........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Man Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 I'm not standing up for McIntosh. I'm just passing on a bit of information about my recent experience. Ron from Mac called me a couple times to answer some questions that I had about the amp., that the dealer couldn't answer. Then he also had Chuck Hinton (from Tech Support) call me to answer some others. The dealer was telling me about his training at the factory. I guess in order to become a dealer you have to actually help build some of the units. He was complaining about how they hand wind the coils, because they say no machine can do it as good. Maybe I was fed a bunch of bull, maybe not? You know how salesman can be. I just asked a lot of questions, because it was hard for me to buy a $4500.00 amp when the others I was concidering were about a grand less. I did end up only paying $3600.00 for it. Only?? Q. ------------------ Q-Man This message has been edited by Q-Man on 03-14-2002 at 07:27 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacKlipsch Posted March 14, 2002 Author Share Posted March 14, 2002 Q Those were the 2 guys that I talked with too, with much different results...I e-mailed Mac the link to this post....no response....big surprise huh....will have to change my name to ex-Mac.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 The newest piece of MAC gear I have ver owned was an MR78 tuner!!! **** -can all of the tubes that came with the 2200. I suggest Mullard box-plate CV4004 for the 12 AX7--they are still available NOS as they were made into the 80's and are VERY stout and have a GLORIOUS midrange (and that's where the music is!). 12AT7? I suggest the same Mullard military variant--the CV4024, also available NOS from various sources. There are also Sylvania 6021 (a gold-pin rugged variant) out there NOS and they're pretty awesome too. All of these are gonna set you back $25-$35 per tube, but they'll probably last YEARS in your application. I'm sure MAC will make everything right for you. I concur that you should take your complaints up the ladder. 30 days is WAAAAAY too long considering your preamp crapped out in a hour!! I love my MAC gear, but the newest piece is my C-22!!! But I love the new stuff--their preamps still have phono stages--- just like EVERY preamp should!!! Have you heard the 2002 tube power amp? How is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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