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    "So much for the experts on this board"

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    Engineering-Audio, magnetics, materials for electronic and magnetic applications, engineering models and simulation, SPICE, MATLAB, FORTRAN, acoustics, complex algebra, physics of sound, microphones, vintage audio, loudspeaker design, amplifier design, McIntosh amplifiers, discrete semiconductor devices.....and movies including silents, foreign and indies.
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    12" Utah Tri-axial drivers mounted in LRE bass "reflex" enclosures.

    Sony Superscope FM only

    Lafayette Solid State Stereophonic Integrated Amp

    16 GA Lamp Wire

    Koss Pro 4AA

    Technics SL-QD33

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    NAD 325i (modified)

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  1. Took some time but the Lundahl units have arrived. They're 25W RMS, 6K primary 4/8/16 Ohm secondary, C-core transformers. Here's the primary side of the output transformer, eight solder pins. And here's the secondary side, sixteen tinned wires. The enclosures are optional, total cost with enclosures is $625 for a pair. The secondary is a bit of a pain to wire. To measure the primary impedance, I temporarily soldered it for an 8 ohm load per the schematic below. GREEN is the primary impedance of the Lundahl with non-inductive, 8 Ohm load and, for comparison, the Hammond 1650PA PURPLE and the Scott OEM output transformer, GOLD. The Lundahl is a bit flatter than the other two. Output tubes are 7591s in push-pull arrangement.
  2. I have no doubt that vacuum tubes today can be made vastly better than what the OEMs could provide. Vacuum systems, glass technology, materials supply chain are all better. And there still is, today, a large presence in the high power, vacuum tube industry (radar and communications). There are plenty of highly skilled technologist in the vacuum tube industry. Look up, Travelling wave tubes, cross-field amplifiers, Klystrons, Magnetrons. But, is there a business case for such an investment in audio grade vacuum tubes? I would propose no, there is none, too costly and the returns are not there.
  3. New Mom's use it in baby formula too.
  4. is the only water you should use to saturate your solder tool sponges with. Don't use tap water to wipe your soldering tool tips clean, the Chlorine, Fluorine and salts will corrode the plating on the tip and shorten tip life by half. It's literally free at our supermarket (0.99/gallon) with 3 year shelf life. To be called distilled, the total solids content can't exceed 10ppm which is pretty spectacular given your paying about a buck for a gallon. Don't use Di-ionized water either, it will attack the tip.
  5. Spent Friday last listening to the Transcendar and Hammond output transformer versions of the amplifier. I have a well broken in set of Sylvania 7591s that I was using, swapping them from one to the other. Speakers are JBL L200s. I also revised the feedback on the Hammond to provide a bit smoother response above 50kHz. Here's the distortion curves for both channels with the Transcendar outputs and Sylvania tubes, virtually identical. There's a leveling off as the power approaches 8W RMS or so then there's a significant rise past 15W RMS. The plates can dissipate 19W RMS. Same tubes with the Hammond outputs. The Hammond is rated for 60W, a much larger core than the Transcendar which is a 22W transformer. And here's the amps How did the sound? Hard to discern a significant difference between the two but I did like the Hammond version better. The L200 isn't that good in the mid range and the bass is "tubby" but, that said, both amps sounded good to my 62 y/o ears. I was plugging a 24-bit CD player directly into the RCAs, no preamp. The distortion curves were taken after my listening so I wasn't entirely biased based on measurements.
  6. I'll be giving a pair of Lundahl output tramsformers a go in this amplifier. I'm curious to measure how a C-core transformer measures against the conventional units. The LL1620/PP has the correct primary impedance (6k Ohms), wattage (25W) and max plate current (150mA) into an 8 Ohm secondary load. There's a nice powder coated metal enclosure that can be purchased too. It's almost an exact replacement for the OEM version but, theoretically, a better version. It will require a third set of mounting holes be added to the chassis plate. The advantage of a C-core transformer is the magnetic field is well contained and lower stray flux, no sharp corners in the iron circuit. The coupling between the primary and secondary should be better. But can it be heard? and can it be measured in %THD? .
  7. All things are possible.
  8. Yes, he contacted me a few weeks ago asking if he could purchase it so I sent it away. I've serviced a couple of his tube amps in the past. I'm curious to get his take, he has many vintage tube amps including some rare pieces. I've have a second Beta built and parts for a third. PC boards and the machined chassis plate have a small price break at three pieces. The amp will produce full power into an 8Ohm load (~12VRMS) and <0.5%THD with an input signal of ~1.6VRMS which allows for DVDs, CDs, tuners are other "line level" outputs including pro hardware. With sensitive speakers the output would be painfully high with a direct plugin of CD player and listener a few feet away. It will require a preamp for a phono inputs. There's a separate level adjust for each channel and a stereo balance potentiometer. There's also a line level center-channel output RCA jack with level adjust too. I always wanted a center-channel in my setup and now I've have one. I have the preamp board on order but have yet to consider how it will be packaged. I'm less excited about tube preamps. I've designed solid state preamp boards with greater than 100dB distortion free output.
  9. Here's the beta board set. The boards are designed using a package that links the schematic to the layout. So you first layout the schematic and all the painful details associated with the size of the leads, component body, wattage, pin identification and then commence with the layout. Dual traces (top and redundant bottom trace) are dark shadowed in the photo. Here's closeups of each board
  10. Some performance data comparing the two designs. Here, the analyzer was calibrated and left alone, the amps then measured sequentially. Same tube types and manufacturers (JnJ) but the alpha tubes have more time on them so not entirely an apples 2 apples comparison. DC balance was checked and adjusted before the test. 1kHz %THD. Both channels in the beta are similar in performance. FFT of the alpha unit, both channels (CHA is top): FFT of the beta (CHA is top): So some differences with beta being a bit better but not dramatic differences. Both sound great and are fun to use.
  11. Getting back to the Scott clones, here are the two amplifiers, the one on the left is the first iteration (i.e. alpha) using the first set of PC boards I designed for the project. It uses the Hammond output transformers. The second iteration (i.e. the beta) is to the right. That guy uses nice wire to board connectors a bit better trace layouts especially with regard to handling traces that drain back to the c/t. It also uses the Heyboer Scott 299C replacement PS transformer and the Transcendar 299C replacement output transformers. From the photo below you can see these are not small. Here's the Beta with cage installed. It went out FedEx yesterday so let's see how well it survives the trip to Chicago! The chassis plate is 1/4"thick 6000 series Aluminum and all the fasteners are good quality.
  12. Thanks JC, I'm pleased to hear they're working well. When I was done with JC's 250 amps, they both measured well, low distortion and ruler flat bandwidth. After a couple hours of running hard and loud, both were cool. I was pleased when they went out the door. When JC hooked them up to his rig, he's initial impression was they were hard on his ears. Apparently a wee-bit of fiddling with the setup got them to behave. I'll post a few photos of the work I did on JCs amps in the solid state forum.
  13. Thank you. The original amp is a two prong whilst this thing is a three-prong so there's now a "chassis" ground and "0V reference" (i.e. the center-tap). On the early McIntosh solid state amps the small signals were handled using single conductor instrument cable with the shield drain lead connected to the chassis at both ends of the conductor, the lead break-out was connected to the shield braid using a small crimp clamp and then the entire end of the conductor insulated with shrink. I've followed that approach here, the shield drain is connected directly to the amp chassis. On the RCA input side of the amp, the ground sleeve is actually a 0V reference and is handled differently, it's connected directly to the PS transformer center-tap. That's what's going on here, the green leads are 0V references, the black whips are chassis ground connected. The point in all of this is to make the amp as quiet. My take is it worked.
  14. Your amp was the inspiration Mark!
  15. It's a stand alone "basic" amplifier with CHA and CHB input level adjusts, a Center channel out level adjust and stereo balance pot. I actually did design a preamp board. I can duplicate the entire amplifier, including the tone controls. I designed the preamp board and ordered all the parts for the build, just need to order the board (the entire LK-72A preamp is on a single board!).
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