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factor, i love my onkyo avr its pretty goood to me i was looking at the specs of your avr and its a really good avr why would you wanna upgrade unless your gonna out and buy a top of the avr from onkyo which to me is one hell of a avr. how much you wanna spend on a new avr and what did you spend on the avr you have now

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The Elite has great power/specs but power isnt a concern because im running seperate amps so my main concern is sound quality . Just for kicks I hooked up a old Yamaha avr I have it was a flagship model 15 years ago lol but I liked the sound very clean and not as bright . Pioneer AVRs have a tendency to be on the brighter side and I dont think its a good match for Klipsch imo even though it did sound good I think theres room for improvement by changing to a AVR thats not as bright . So im looking into the Marantz or Denon or possibly Onkyo but not sure were Onkyo falls on the scale of brightness if you will . Im looking to spend no more then 1000 to 1200 dollars . Not sure I could justify spending 1800 to 2000 on the flagship Onkyo TX-sr5008 . Im leaning towards a Denon 4310ci or 3311ci , Marantz sr6005 or sr5005. Possibly a Onkyo 808 .

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i think you should try onkyo personally i dot like denon i had 2 avrs and to me they suck compare to my onkyo but thats just me

the onkyo tx-sr 5008 its retails for $2700 its on sale for $1,599.00

Learn more about the Onkyo TX-NR5008

General
Brand
ONKYO
Type
Receiver
Model
TX-NR5008
Color
Black
Channels
9.2-Channel
Processing
Power Output
145W/Ch (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz, 0.05%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
Frequency Response
5 Hz–100 kHz/+1 dB, -3 dB (Direct mode)
THD
0.05% (Rated power)
Decoder
DOLBY DD Plus, DOLBY TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio, Dolby PLIIz
D/A Converter
192K/24 Bit DACs (192K/32bit, finest Burr-Brown)
Multi Zone
Yes
Video Upconversion
1080p
Video
Input Sensitivity/Output Level and Impedance:
- 1 Vp-p/75 ohms (Component and S-Video Y)
- 0.7 Vp-p/75 ohms (Component PB/CB, PR/CR)
- 0.28 Vp-p/75 ohms (S-Video C)
- 1 Vp-p/75 ohms (Composite)

Component Video Frequency Response:
5 Hz–100 MHz (-3 dB)
Radio
FM/AM Tuner
Included
HD Radio Ready
Yes (optional UP-HT1)
Satellite Radio Ready
SIRIUS
Internet Radio Ready
Yes (Pandora, Rhapsody, Napster, vTuner, Sirius Internet Radio, MediaFly, Slacker)
Connectivity
HDMI
8 In / 2 Out
Component Video
3 In / 1 Out
Digital Optical Audio
3 In
Digital Coaxial Audio
3 In
Multi Channel Input
7.1-Channel
Pre-Amp Out
9.2-Channel
Zone Terminals
2
USB Port
1
Network Ready
Yes
iPod Compatibility
Yes (optional UP-A1)
RS-232
1
IR
1 In / 1 Out
12V Trigger
2
Other Connectors
Audio: 8 In / 2 Out
Phono Input: Yes
Composite: 5 In / 1 Out
S-Video: 5 In / 1 Out
Front-Panel Optical: Yes
U-Port: Yes
Specification
Remote Control
Yes
On Screen Display
Yes
Power
Power Supply
AC 120 V, 60 Hz
Consumption
11.6A
Features
Features
Eight 1080p capable HDMI inputs (V1.4a repeater) including 1 Front with 2 outputs

THX Ultra2 Plus Certification

Massive Toroidal transformer for High current drive

4 Independent Power Supply for clearner sound

Finest 192kHz/32bit Burr-Brown DACs

isf Certified

HDMI 1080p video upconversion by HVQ Reon VX

WRAT technology and discrete amp construction for cleaner sound

TrueHD/DTS-HD decoding to support the latest Blu-ray technology

PC Input

Front and Rear Panel USB Inputs for Memory Devices and iPhone/iPod Models (Enables Display of Album Artwork)

Optional iPod Dock / HDradio module via U.Port

4 DSP Gaming Modes: Rock, Sports, Action, and Role Playing

Audyssey MultEQ XTw/ Dynamic EQ & Dynamic Volume
Dimensions & Weight
Dimensions
17.13" x 7.81" x 18.25"
Weight
55.1 lbs.
Manufacturer Warranty
Labor
2 years limited
Parts
2 years limited

the onkyo tx-sr 808 it retails for $1100 its on sale for $679.99

Learn more about the Onkyo TX-NR808

General
Brand
ONKYO
Model
TX-NR808
Channels
7.2-Channel
Processing
Frequency Response
5 Hz–100 kHz/+1 dB, -3 dB
THD
0.08% (Rated power)
Multi Zone
Yes
Video Upconversion
1080p
Video
1 Vp-p/75 ohms (Component)
0.7 Vp-p/75 ohms (Component PB/CB, PR/CR)
1 Vp-p/75 ohms (Composite)
Radio
FM/AM Tuner
Included
Satellite Radio Ready
SIRIUS
Connectivity
HDMI
7 In / 1 Out
Power
Power Supply
AC 120 V, 60 Hz
Features
Features
Power (8ohms 20-20kHz 0.08%) /Ch 135W
THX Certified (Select2 Plus)
Continuous 6ohms Rated
Certified 4ohms performance
All Discrete Circuitry
3-Stage Inverted Darlington Circuitry
PUSH-PULL Design
Bi-amp Capability For Front

Processing

DOLBY Decoder True HD, DD Plus, PLIIz
DTS Decoder DTS-HD Master Audio
Dolby PLIIz
ONKYO GAME Surround Modes
THX Processing Mode
Audyssey DSX
Audyssey Dynamic EQ
Audyssey Dynamic Volume
Music Optimizer
192K/24 Bit DACs (Burr-Brown)

Connectivity

Audio I/O 7 / 2
Phono Input
Digital Audio IN (OPT/COAX) 23/ 3
Composite I/O 5 / 1
S-Video I/O 4 / 2
Component Video I/O 2 / 1
Front-Panel A/V L / R / V
Front-Panel Portable input (stereo mini jack)
HDMI I/O 7 (6+1)/ 1
HDMI Version V1.4a (supports 3D video and Audio Return Channel)
Component Video Upconversion
Analog To HDMI UpConversion
1080p Upscaling (DCDi Cinema)
Multi-Channel Input 7.1 channel
Analog Pre-Outs 7.2 channel
Powered Zone2
Zone 2 Line Out
Zone 3 Line Out
U-Port
iPod Ready (optional UP-A1)
HD Radio Ready (optional UP-HT1)
SIRIUS Radio Ready
Internet Radio Capable (Pandora, Rhapsody, Napster, vTuner, Sirius Internet Radio, MediaFly, Slacker)
Streaming Audio From PC (Windows 7 and DLNA compatible)
Streaming Audio From USB memory (iPhone/iPod support)
PC Input (15 pin D-sub)

Integration Access

RS-232
IR Input
Ethernet
ONKYO-RI System Control
12V Trigger

Miscellaneous

Pre-Pro Remote
Bi-directional Remote Setup via GUI
Color-Coded Speaker Terminals
Auto Speaker Calibration W/Mic. (Audyssey MultEQ)
OSD Out (advanced "Home" GUI via all video outputs)
Solid Aluminum Front
Manufacturer Warranty
Labor
2 years limited
Parts
2 years limited

honestly i would go with the 5008 its a darn beast and u get more bang for your buck with onkyo

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The Elite has great power/specs but power isnt a concern because im running seperate amps so my main concern is sound quality . Just for kicks I hooked up a old Yamaha avr I have it was a flagship model 15 years ago lol but I liked the sound very clean and not as bright . Pioneer AVRs have a tendency to be on the brighter side and I dont think its a good match for Klipsch imo even though it did sound good I think theres room for improvement by changing to a AVR thats not as bright . So im looking into the Marantz or Denon or possibly Onkyo but not sure were Onkyo falls on the scale of brightness if you will . Im looking to spend no more then 1000 to 1200 dollars . Not sure I could justify spending 1800 to 2000 on the flagship Onkyo TX-sr5008 . Im leaning towards a Denon 4310ci or 3311ci , Marantz sr6005 or sr5005. Possibly a Onkyo 808 .

Why not try the UMC-1?

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The Elite has great power/specs but power isnt a concern because im running seperate amps so my main concern is sound quality . Just for kicks I hooked up a old Yamaha avr I have it was a flagship model 15 years ago lol but I liked the sound very clean and not as bright . Pioneer AVRs have a tendency to be on the brighter side and I dont think its a good match for Klipsch imo even though it did sound good I think theres room for improvement by changing to a AVR thats not as bright . So im looking into the Marantz or Denon or possibly Onkyo but not sure were Onkyo falls on the scale of brightness if you will . Im looking to spend no more then 1000 to 1200 dollars . Not sure I could justify spending 1800 to 2000 on the flagship Onkyo TX-sr5008 . Im leaning towards a Denon 4310ci or 3311ci , Marantz sr6005 or sr5005. Possibly a Onkyo 808 .

Why not try the UMC-1?

Its one I was considering but Emo is coming out with another model and was going to wait but I sold my Elite avr so im not going to wait .
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Vic who has it on sale for 1599 ? The cheepest i've found is 1799 . Although its still almost 500 dollars over my budget I might be willing to stretch a little like I did for my 7's . Im also considering a Anthem MRX there new lineup looks pretty sweet and theres a dealer near my house were I can demo one but dont know if they carry Klipsch or not to match it with .

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The Elite has great power/specs but power isnt a concern because im running seperate amps so my main concern is sound quality . Just for kicks I hooked up a old Yamaha avr I have it was a flagship model 15 years ago lol but I liked the sound very clean and not as bright . Pioneer AVRs have a tendency to be on the brighter side and I dont think its a good match for Klipsch imo even though it did sound good I think theres room for improvement by changing to a AVR thats not as bright . So im looking into the Marantz or Denon or possibly Onkyo but not sure were Onkyo falls on the scale of brightness if you will . Im looking to spend no more then 1000 to 1200 dollars . Not sure I could justify spending 1800 to 2000 on the flagship Onkyo TX-sr5008 . Im leaning towards a Denon 4310ci or 3311ci , Marantz sr6005 or sr5005. Possibly a Onkyo 808 .

Why not try the UMC-1?

Its one I was considering but Emo is coming out with another model and was going to wait but I sold my Elite avr so im not going to wait .

I know what you mean, but I'm not holding my breath too long for the XMC! Don't get me wrong, Emo is a spectacular company, but they have not been able to hit the broad side of a barn with their new product estimated dates!

Some food for thought since you are looking for something to replace your Pioneer... If Fish sees this, maybe he will chime in as well.

I've had/heard several Onkyo receivers, HK receivers, Emo LMC, Emo MMC, and currently the UMC-1 on mine, and others Klipsch gear. Namely RF-7's, RF-5's, RB-81's, and KLF-20's. In my opinion, the LMC-1 was a noticiable step up in sound quality over any of the receivers. It was a bit clunky in its operation though. I've had my UMC-1 since January, and I was taken back a bit from day 1 from the noticable increase in sound quality above all of the others mentioned. The sound stage, clarity, separation, depth, and overall openess was something that you can definitely hear. My room is sub-par, but Fishs room is exceptional. Even spectacular with the UMC. It is like having your cake and eating it too, with all the added sprinkles and extra icing! I use my gear 90% for music, so that is my standpoint. By music, I mean mostly concert dvds/blurays, dvd-a, sacd, and the occassional cd. For movies, it does just as well, but in my opinion, most of the 'better' receivers can do just as well in the area of movies. Granted, Emo-Q doesn't live up to what it's supposed to do, but you won't miss it. The UMC also functions very well and can be tweaked quite a bit. Again, in my opinion, the UMC-1 is a stellar match for Klipsch gear. For $699 to your front doorstep, I fail to see how you could go wrong even giving this a shot for its 30 day free trial period. When someone mentions $1500+ for an AVR, I just cringe a little.[:o]

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