Gandalf007 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Did your speakers sound any different after the "break in" period?Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted February 3, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 3, 2017 Not unless they broke. Some guys buy into the "break in" period, I myself have never heard any difference when buying new speakers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Speakers absolutely need break in time. Subwoofers and woofers take the longest time to break in, mids and tweeters break in rather quickly. Many studies have shown the differences are not only audible but measurable as T/S parameters change during the process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted February 3, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 3, 2017 YMMV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted February 3, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 3, 2017 I think it's interesting how "vague" Klipsch's stance on this issue is in this page - http://www.klipsch.com/education/how-to-break-in-speakers Quote Many audio experts and speaker manufacturers say that loudspeakers really benefit from break-in. Like anything else mechanical, the drivers—the midrange and woofers—found in almost all speakers have moving parts that move more freely with time, or effort. Two components may particularly benefit from a break-in period: The surround, which can be made of various types of rubber or foam, is what connects the edge of the cone to the speaker basket, and the spider, which connects the basket and the center of the cone. Both surrounds and spiders are flexible; therefore, allowing them to experience their full range of motion and loosen up results in freer movement and better response. Think of it like stretching before you exercise. There are several simple ways to break a speaker in; while you could choose to buy costly gear to do so, it really isn’t required. The easiest—and most enjoyable—way is to simply play them, choosing music with a wide dynamic range. Playing it just a bit louder than you normally might also help. Many receivers have a test tone that can accomplish the same goal; test signals are also commercially available. A small warning here: not all speakers will sound dramatically different after break-in. Some improve only marginally, while others do change in ways that may dazzle you. Either way, it’s possible that you’ll notice an improvement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 http://www.eminence.com/speaker-break-in/ Lots more where this came from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted February 3, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 3, 2017 Not trying to be cynical but just curious if you have actually heard a difference after break-in yourself? As stated, I've personally never heard any noticeable difference myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 12 minutes ago, jason str said: Speakers absolutely need break in time. Subwoofers and woofers take the longest time to break in, mids and tweeters break in rather quickly. Many studies have shown the differences are not only audible but measurable as T/S parameters change during the process. Yep, totally believe in break-in. All of us at one time or another have touched "Pushed " a finger on a speaker, some stiff as hell some soft and mushy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Youthman said: Not trying to be cynical but just curious if you have actually heard a difference after break-in yourself? As stated, I've personally never heard any noticeable difference myself. Every build, yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted February 3, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 3, 2017 Just now, minermark said: All of us at one time or another have touched "Pushed " a finger on a speaker, some stiff as hell some soft and mushy. But the question was did your speakers sound any different? You are describing how they feel after break in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted February 3, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, jason str said: Every build, yes. Just curious, how long does it take? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Just now, Youthman said: But the question was did your speakers sound any different? You are describing how they feel after break in. Youth, i reguard you as one of the experts around these parts. And i will give you an... "In Fact" anser to your question.......No In theory, and just pushing on a "New" one compair to a 20 year old speaker that is softer to the touch, well you just need to figure everything wears out or gets loose over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Youthman said: Just curious, how long does it take? Depends on the driver, subwoofers can take weeks to fully break in. In general the higher the frequency the faster the break in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Youthman said: Just curious, how long does it take? Ah Ha, the $10K question eh? Id say when they really start sounding good. We could chat about this senerio all night...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Just now, jason str said: Depends on the driver, subwoofers can take weeks to fully break in. In general the higher the frequency the faster the break in. YEAH! What jason said, better than me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted February 3, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, minermark said: Youth, i reguard you as one of the experts around these parts. I appreciate the compliment but I am FAR from anything close to being an expert. I've never considered myself anything near an "Audiophile". I just love audio, video, home theater etc. 5 minutes ago, minermark said: And i will give you an... "In Fact" anser to your question.......No I appreciate your honesty. I answered the OP's question based on my personal experience. I am a little bit confused as you are agreeing with Jason but you've never heard break-in yourself? 6 minutes ago, minermark said: In theory, and just pushing on a "New" one compair to a 20 year old speaker that is softer to the touch, well you just need to figure everything wears out or gets loose over time. To me, "wears out" wouldn't cause a speaker to sound better over time. I'm not saying there isn't a physical change that occurs over time, I'm going back to the OP's original question. Can you hear that change? Maybe some people can, I just haven't myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Most everything i buy is "Lightly Used", but they are used, driven hard before i get them, judging on where/who i pick them up from you can kind of get an idea if they were next to an old folks home, id say they have had a mellow life up to that point. My McM and EAW stacks, id say they are "Broke-in" due to movie theater usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Just now, Youthman said: I appreciate the compliment but I am FAR from anything close to being an expert. I've never considered myself anything near an "Audiophile". I just love audio, video, home theater etc. I appreciate your honesty. I answered the OP's question based on my personal experience. I am a little bit confused as you are agreeing with Jason but you've never heard break-in yourself? To me, "wears out" wouldn't cause a speaker to sound better over time. I'm not saying there isn't a physical change that occurs over time, I'm going back to the OP's original question. Can you hear that change? Maybe some people can, I just haven't myself. Nope, i just believe in it. I know iv likely heard it one time or another, im no expert in sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted February 3, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, jason str said: Depends on the driver, subwoofers can take weeks to fully break in. Again, not trying to play devil's advocate here, just curious of your experience. How does a sub sound different? What do your ears hear? Are you able to remember what the sub sounds like a few weeks ago compared to what it sounds like a few weeks later? I have no desire to try and persuade anyone to one side of the fence or the other. I just think it's an interesting topic to discuss and I totally respect anyone's opinion on the matter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Youthman said: I appreciate the compliment but I am FAR from anything close to being an expert. I've never considered myself anything near an "Audiophile". I just love audio, video, home theater etc. I appreciate your honesty. I answered the OP's question based on my personal experience. I am a little bit confused as you are agreeing with Jason but you've never heard break-in yourself? To me, "wears out" wouldn't cause a speaker to sound better over time. I'm not saying there isn't a physical change that occurs over time, I'm going back to the OP's original question. Can you hear that change? Maybe some people can, I just haven't myself. i agree, wore out is likely easier to figure out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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