sb in SC Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 I just purchased the reference 3 series speakers. I will be updating an older (Pro logic) Kenwood receiver in the near future to one with 6.1 capabilities. What center (rear) surround would you all recommend with the RS-3II's as the side surrounds. It will probably have to be mounted (or suspended) to/from the ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckloads Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Good afternoon, I cann't answer your question, but I recently replaced my Pioneer 308 with a Yamaha rx-v630, and it's great. Music is cleaner (through the DVD), and movies are a new experience. I have found myself watching / listening to country musid videos it sounds so good. I listened to several in the $500 price range at Tweeter, and this one won hands down. From what I could hear, it would have taken $1000 to have made a significant difference. It made quite a difference in the low end (bass) sharpness. I'm still learning how to set the Yamaha up. It works with my Synergy speakers. I am also shopping for a (Synergy) rear suround. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelstano Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Based on what I have learned here about timbre matching, another RC3II would be the choice for a rear surround. However, due to its size, mounting it on the ceiling or wall might be a problem. So, the RS3II might be a better option. At least some Klipsch speakers are predrilled for Omnimounts, and I recently bought a ceiling mount for a KV-2. You might look at the backs of your existing speakers (or in the instruction booklet) and see if either has been predrilled. If you go for an Omnimount, I found the best prices at Electronicaccessory.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Ideally, another RC3II. The RS3 is an option, it may produce too much ambiance (sp?) and not enough directionality however. When I went with a center rear speaker, I matched it up with my RC7 and got another RC7. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmijeski Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 For what it's worth, you may not have to purchase a rear center at this point. Most DVDs are not encoded with 6.1 separate channels, so the rear center has to be "matrixed" in 99% of todays DVDs. If you are upgrading from a ProLogic receiver to a Dolby Digital / DTS receiver, you will be amazed at the difference without even thinking about the rear center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 ---------------- On 1/29/2003 5:27:21 PM kmijeski wrote: For what it's worth, you may not have to purchase a rear center at this point. Most DVDs are not encoded with 6.1 separate channels, so the rear center has to be "matrixed" in 99% of todays DVDs. If you are upgrading from a ProLogic receiver to a Dolby Digital / DTS receiver, you will be amazed at the difference without even thinking about the rear center. ---------------- DTS-ES is true 6.1 right? Also, isn't DD-EX? Here is a link to a PDF file which lists DVS which are in DTS all the DTS... Make sure to read what the little triangels mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb in SC Posted January 29, 2003 Author Share Posted January 29, 2003 Thanks for the replies. I am going to get another center (RC-3II) and use it as the center (rear) surround. Somehow I will either suspend it from ceiling, or get (build) a stand to hold it. I could put it on a shelf on the back wall, but that is about another 10 feet beyond my "listening" area. I am definately going with 6.1. It would be nice to have for those DVDs which I already own that have that coding, and also for ones in the future. I can always turn that feature off on the receiver if I am playing a dvd without 6.1. (and use only 5.1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 I would stay with the RS-3II's if I were you. A seamless blend across the back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmijeski Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 Moon You are correct. DTS ES and DD ES provide True 6.1 channels of sound. Thanks for the link too. DVDs encoded with DTS surround are becoming more and more available. I remember when there were only like 26 available titles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aab3rd Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 Actually, DTS ES has two versions-DTS ES Matrix and DTS ES Discrete. DTS ES Matrix is encoded such that the rear center is matrixed into the side surround signal and then decoded in the processor. DTS ES Discrete has a separate discrete channel for the rear center. DD EX (and THX EX) are encoded like DTS ES Matrix. The signal for the rear center is encoded into the side surround channels and decoded in your processor. The matrix process for DD EX/THX EX and DTS ES Matrix is similar to the old Pro-Logic encoding for the center channel except that the signal encoded into the sides is a full bandwith channel. There is not much out there in DTS ES Discrete. Most disks encoded in DD/DTS 5.1 can be played in DD EX or DTS ES Matrix with varying quality of results for a rear center even though they are not encoded in EX/ES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmijeski Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 You too must be a sound and Vision Reader! If not, in the most recent issues the questions is asked and answered regarding 6.1 channels of sound. It seems as though the DVD source is the key. I just don't think 6.1 gives that much more of a theater experience. I reember reading articles where 10.1 channels may be getting closer and closer (although far out of reach from the ordinary consumers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 I would have to agree with JDM here. Despite what you may read from some space cadets here, the WDST speaker does not process sound in and of itself. The drivers are simply aimed in such a way as to dispurse sound in such a way as to give more of an ambient sound, rather than a direct, more localizeable sound. That's why they are EFFECTS speakers. The action is/should be front and center. I'm not sure you'll suffer using either speaker. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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