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I do wish to keep religion out of the subjects on the forum. Still.

Most of what I know about the sects comes from Garrison Keeler's Prarie Home Companion. The Lutherans do X and the Catholics do Y, in Lake Woebegon.

The most funny was the topless caffee. Catholics and Lutherans wouldn't be seen in there. So Catholics visited before church on Sunday, and Lutherans visited after church.

He also had the Young Lutheran's guide to the orchestra. Which is the perfect musical instrument for a Lutheran?

Yet it could be funny to say that each speaker of the Heritage series is most suited to a given sect or religion. I leave that to your imagination.

Seriously, I do get a bit concened when any of these home speakers are used in the environent of a big hall. Moreso if they are being used with big organ pieces with deep bass. They're darn good. Nonetheless, please be careful in your expectations.

Gil

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Hey Gil!

Thanks for all the kindness! An interesting bunch of stuff came with the Heresys I bought off EBAY. The description there was Harman Kardon amp & Klipsch speakers, so I got the preamp, amp and the Heresys in one fell swoop. The lady who sold them also sent me literature in an "Owner Information Packet" ..

It includes sales flyers for the Cornwall and Heresy speakers. Pictures on the front (heresy with a banjo, Cornwall with a saxophone), blurbs, and specs and "Architects' and Engineer' Specifications" on the back side. the previous owner kept pretty much all literature together. It was reading about the cornwall there that I thought.. hmmmmmm... a google search turned up the belgian audio school review someone mentioned here, and a visit to these forums showed me that many of you thought of them as children to be loved and cared for rather than just boxes and testosterone statements. I've been reading for some weeks now, spending a lot of time pouring over the comments. There is a cool level of maturity and respect here.

So I bought a pair of Cornwalls without ever having heard them because I loved the sound of the heresys and kept seeing again again comments about the Cornwalls being much like Heresys but with a huge soundstage and serious low end clarity.

Also, being a classically trained pianist, the comment in the belgian site about the Cornwall being able to accurately reproduce piano music *really* got me interested.

I'm really satisfied with this blind date!

The very first recordings I listened to was Tone Poems, David Grisman, mandolin, and Tony Rice, guitar. These guys play live, non-compressed, into high speed two track analog tape and it is stunning. When I was listening though, I thought there might be something wrong because I kept hearing a noise that I had never heard before on other speakers... sort of like the noise of poor FM reception.. so I make some adjustments.. still there... then I realize... it is the players breathing. What clarity.

thanks for your reply.

Forrest

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I'm the same way about religion! Let's talk Hi-Fi instead!

As far as your being worried about my use of these speakers, I'm not into painful volume, or even near painful volume.

I'm into moderation and clarity. Besides, the reverberant field of the room there doesn't make high-volume listening very pleasant for very long.

I like the fact that an orchestra can sound large and realistic without speaker strain. I'll treat them gently. honest!!

Forrest

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On 7/18/2003 10:27:37 PM William F. Gil McDermott wrote:

I do wish to keep religion out of the subjects on the forum. Still.

Most of what I know about the sects comes from Garrison Keeler's Prarie Home Companion. The Lutherans do X and the Catholics do Y, in Lake Woebegon.

The most funny was the topless caffee. Catholics and Lutherans wouldn't be seen in there. So Catholics visited before church on Sunday, and Lutherans visited after church.

He also had the Young Lutheran's guide to the orchestra. Which is the perfect musical instrument for a Lutheran?

Yet it could be funny to say that each speaker of the Heritage series is most suited to a given sect or religion. I leave that to your imagination.

Seriously, I do get a bit concened when any of these home speakers are used in the environent of a big hall. Moreso if they are being used with big organ pieces with deep bass. They're darn good. Nonetheless, please be careful in your expectations.

Gil

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On 7/18/2003 10:32:57 PM Woodog wrote:

The very first recordings I listened to was Tone Poems, David Grisman, mandolin, and Tony Rice, guitar. These guys play live, non-compressed, into high speed two track analog tape and it is stunning. When I was listening though, I thought there might be something wrong because I kept hearing a noise that I had never heard before on other speakers... sort of like the noise of poor FM reception.. so I make some adjustments.. still there... then I realize... it is the players breathing. What clarity.

thanks for your reply.

Forrest

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Forrest,

Sounds like you're a Pizza Tapes kind of guy. If you've never heard it I highly recommend. Garcia, Grisman, Rice.

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In the for what it is worth catagory...

I have used, for some time now, the Heresy's to sing through, on top of the Cornwalls playing music Karaoke wise, with fantastic clearity, presence, dynamics, and could not be happier. The Heresy's are turned up a little more of course, vocals (with some fancy digital effects) are very clear and true through these. I would agree, do not to attempt to play with them at really loud concert levels. (Although sometimes at mid-high levels for sure is fun. LOL)

If you have good equipment going into these, that is clean etc., etc., how wonderful a sunday sermon must feel.

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...And playing the "Digital Fox" through the Cornwalls in that Church must sound very lively and accurate, as if Virgil's playing the Ruffatti right there in front of you!

Back in '80 I heard 2 pairs of Klipschorns driven by 2 Carver M-500t amps in a concert hall-sized room that housed a residence Marr & Colton theatre pipe organ owned by a doctor...how impressive it was to hear actual recordings of that very organ played back through those 4 Klipschorns; it virtually sounded as live as the organ itself (except that the recorded music was coming from all four corners instead of the organ chambers in front)! I think these big ol' Klipsch love big rooms, and so I can just imagine how much you really enjoy listening to your CW's and Heresys at your Church.

Way to go!

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One of my favorite organ music discs is Peter Hurford's (spelling??) recording of romantic organ music. Romantic as in period as opposed to lust inspiring (but you knew that!!).

A gem from that disc is Vierne's Berceuse. With the cornwall's soundstage you get a sense of the space of the cathedral Mr. Hurford is playing in.

Another favorite from that disc is the Widor's Toccata from the Fifth Symphony. It is at a much more relaxed tempo than Fox's Indy 500 pace. :) Even the Cornwall's have to give up on the 32' reeds though. heheheheheheheh.

I really feel as if I'm hearing my music collection for the first time.

jt1stcav, did you ever get to hear virgil fox play? I'm 45, but in 73 or 74 I saw him in concert with that electronic Allen (I think it was at the time) instrument and a light show (although I'm not sure if it was Joe's lights like the ones from the Heavy Organ records). It was an experience. I believe he ended touring around 76 or so.

anyway, it's late... gotta sleep sometime,

Forrest

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On 7/19/2003 4:40:46 PM jt1stcav wrote:

...And playing the "Digital Fox" through the Cornwalls in that Church must sound very lively and accurate, as if Virgil's playing the Ruffatti right there in front of you!

Back in '80 I heard 2 pairs of Klipschorns driven by 2 Carver M-500t amps in a concert hall-sized room that housed a residence Marr & Colton theatre pipe organ owned by a doctor...how impressive it was to hear actual recordings of that very organ played back through those 4 Klipschorns; it virtually sounded as live as the organ itself (except that the recorded music was coming from all four corners instead of the organ chambers in front)! I think these big ol' Klipsch love big rooms, and so I can just imagine how much you really enjoy listening to your CW's and Heresys at your Church.

Way to go!

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I've got that same CD of Peter Hurford's Romantic performances (yep, I knew it was period music2.gif). Gives my Cornwalls a good workout as well! I definately need a good subwoofer again to "feel" the full impact from those 32' Contra Bassoons, but the 15" woofers do a respectable job, don't you think?

Unfortunantly, I never got the chance to hear the late Dr. Fox perform (and you're right, he did own a traveling Allen, the predecessor to his famous "Black Beauty" Rodgers Touring Organ). His "Heavy Organ" Bach concert series were a blast, though, and I thoroughly enjoyed his recordings. I do envy you. Did he perform the "Gig" Fugue? Bet that was a sight to see!

How's that famous quote he was known for saying go?..."If you're not prepared to have a happening...move back!"

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Garymd,

I've never heard of Ric Masten. I'll keep an ear out for him. You mention the Pizza Tapes in another post, and yes, I've heard of them, just never heard *them*.

My very first rock and roll concert was a Grateful Dead show. May 18th, 1977. the night before the widely traded (and recent vault release) 5/19/77. I was ruined for most other rock and roll shows from that time forward. :). That group knew how to use dynamics better than just about any group I've ever heard... maybe barring Genesis.. those guys were excellent as well.

I do remember seeing the wall of McIntosh amps behind their sound system... tubes a glowin'. It was also the only time I saw Keith playing a grand piano. goodness... memories.

The speakers in the church sound magnificent. It is a purchase I feel hugely satisfied in making.

Question, though.. should I caulk the squawker? I've asked for advice here but no one has suggested any yet! Is that a good thing? ha ha.

Seriously, a fellow musician (guitarist and incredible singer) came up to me today after church and told me that the sound of the cornwalls was like getting his *** whipped with silk. He said he got the quote from Matrix II. It was a complement, he said. :)

I was striving to get greater clarity and projection of sound with lower volumes, and I think I've done just that.

Later,

Forrest

(seriously thinking about a pair of Cornwalls for his home now).

I notice on other forums where you were talking about the 'weather report suite' and Bob Weir's vocal placement in the soundstage. Interesting. I'll have to check that out. I like the recording from Dick's Picks 1 (I think that's right.. the cd is not near).. 12/29/73 Tampa, FL... of the Weather report suite... the phil bomb in Let it Grow.... BAM!! ahhhhhhhhhh....

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On 7/18/2003 9:59:45 PM Woodog wrote:

Garymd,

from the looks of the system you have, I think you made it. Unitarians are not opposed to laying up treasure here on earth, for what that's worth.
:)

I get to do a huge variety of music as a performer, for instance, I'll be playing (guitar) and singing Hunter/Garcia's 'Friend of the Devil' this Sunday for the prelude.

Next Sunday I'll be playing a disc of Murray Perriah's performance of Schubert's Impromptu in F minor.

As far as the LRY go, that is in some ways a blanket description of Unitarian Universalists.
:)
Jews and Unitarians have a long history going back to the holocaust.

(of course, this is all TOTALLY non hifi talk, but interesting to me anyway).

I'll quit now...

thanks,

Forrest

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On 7/18/2003 6:08:53 PM garymd wrote:

Woodog,

Funny you should post this because when I was a kid, although we are Jewish, my parents started going to a Unitarian Church. They had an amazing stereo system and was one of the major reasons I got into hifi. I always told my parents that I wanted a system that sounded as good as the one at church. My parents found the church to be a wonderful social outlet and I spent a lot of time as a member of the LRY group. Is that group still in existence and do you know what it stands for? As a conservative, I have to laugh thinking back on those days.

Answer: Liberal Relgious Youth

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Just as I was reading your post "Friend of the Devil" popped on the heresys. The version from Garcia/Grisman Grateful Dawg soundtrack.

Maybe there are some khorns waiting for me in the next world. For now I'm content with my cornwalls and heresys. Sorry but I'll have to revert back to my Judaism when it comes to my Klipsch treasures.

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BTW - Do you remember the Unitarian singer/songwriter Ric Masten I think his name was. He came to our church a few times and I think I still have one of his albums around somewhere.

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On 7/20/2003 3:46:21 PM Woodog wrote:

Garymd,

I've never heard of Ric Masten. I'll keep an ear out for him. You mention the Pizza Tapes in another post, and yes, I've heard of them, just never heard *them*.

My very first rock and roll concert was a Grateful Dead show. May 18th, 1977. the night before the widely traded (and recent vault release) 5/19/77. I was ruined for most other rock and roll shows from that time forward.
:)
. That group knew how to use dynamics better than just about any group I've ever heard... maybe barring Genesis.. those guys were excellent as well.

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Forrest,

You would love the interaction between Jerry and Tony Rice (first time they met). Lots of "in-between-song" chatter. It's a great recording and sounds wonderful on the klipsch.

Lots of Dead show memories for me too (my first was '73 RFK stadium with the Allman Bros). A few of them on Dick's Picks also. If you are into downloading music, check out gdlive.com.

Ric Masten as a great storyteller/songwriter. Ask some of the older members of your church about him. I'm sure someone will remember.

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Virgil Fox and Jerry Garcia were both phenomenal musicians who will be sorely missed from the musical world. They had alot to contribute, and their unique styles of performing the music they loved so much will continue to influence new musicians for many generations to come! Just imagine if Virgil ever attended a Dead concert at the Golden Gate Park, or if Jerry ever saw Virgil jumping up and down on the organ bench at the Filmore East...groovy!

The purists were jealous of Virgil...they saw the natural talent he possessed, but rediculed him for his outlandish costumes and romantic renditions of Baroque organ music. I think Virgil understood Bach better than any other musician alive!

Virgil Fox was such a great entertainer off the bench as well...how I wish I could have attended one of his recitals, and listen to him enthral the audience with his stories.

Yeah, I know a little about the "King of Instruments"...I grew up on organs and the music composed and performed for them; my dad works for a small pipe organ servicing firm in CT, and their latest project is the complete restoration of the massive 1949 Aeolian-Skinner organ in Boston's Symphony Hall.

I don't know if you're familiar with the Dorian record label, but if you want to hear some exciting digital recordings by the renown French organist Jean Guillou on new important pipe organs (that have 32' reeds that will give your Cornwall's woofers a hellava workout), then go to www.dorian.com to their online catalog and scroll down the page to "Organ". There you'll find their complete organ listings...many of the CD's listed I own, and all are performed flawlessly, and the CD's sonics are spectacular!

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Thanks for the source on good recordings! I'll be sure to check that out.

I loved the mental pic of Fox at a Dead show (or Jerry at a Fox recital).

Spent some time today alone in the room with Bach's B minor Mass... John Elliot Gardner and the Monteverdi choir... heady stuff. I get lost in such 'confections for the ear' as Kurt Vonnegut has described music.

I'm going to the site right-away to check it out.

Interesting note.. here in Bowling Green, KY, at the 'downtown' Presbyterian church, is a 1976 Aeolian Skinner. Well, not Exactly... it is a sipes organ voiced by Robert Skinner, but it is a very nice two manual american classic tracker. (29 ranks). It does, however, have an aeolian skinner plaque on it. I've been told it was the last instrument voiced by Robert Skinner. Don't know if it's true, but there ya go!

the very large Baptist church here burnt to the ground a few years back, and when they rebuilt they installed a 57 rank Cassavant, 3 manuals, with kickin' sound, and a room built for musical performances. It has a 32' contra-basson (quarter scale). Electric 32' extensions on the diapasons and bourdons.

One of the dreams of retirement years is to tour the country and take in historic instrument recitals. I would love to experience the Riverside organ that Dr. Fox designed, under the fingers of a skilled player, of course.

anyway, thanks for the recommendations!

Forrest

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On 7/20/2003 6:31:39 PM jt1stcav wrote:

Virgil Fox and Jerry Garcia were both phenomenal musicians who will be sorely missed from the musical world. They had alot to contribute, and their unique styles of performing the music they loved so much will continue to influence new musicians for many generations to come! Just imagine if Virgil ever attended a Dead concert at the Golden Gate Park, or if Jerry ever saw Virgil jumping up and down on the organ bench at the Filmore East...groovy!

The purists were jealous of Virgil...they saw the natural talent he possessed, but rediculed him for his outlandish costumes and romantic renditions of Baroque organ music. I think Virgil understood Bach better than any other musician alive!

Virgil Fox was such a great entertainer off the bench as well...how I wish I could have attended one of his recitals, and listen to him enthral the audience with his stories.

Yeah, I know a little about the "King of Instruments"...I grew up on organs and the music composed and performed for them; my dad works for a small pipe organ servicing firm in CT, and their latest project is the complete restoration of the massive 1949 Aeolian-Skinner organ in Boston's Symphony Hall.

I don't know if you're familiar with the Dorian record label, but if you want to hear some exciting digital recordings by the renown French organist Jean Guillou on new important pipe organs (that have 32' reeds that will give your Cornwall's woofers a hellava workout), then go to www.dorian.com to their online catalog and scroll down the page to "Organ". There you'll find their complete organ listings...many of the CD's listed I own, and all are performed flawlessly, and the CD's sonics are spectacular!

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Thanks for the source on good recordings! I'll be sure to check that out.

I loved the mental pic of Fox at a Dead show (or Jerry at a Fox recital).

Spent some time today alone in the room with Bach's B minor Mass... John Elliot Gardner and the Monteverdi choir... heady stuff. I get lost in such 'confections for the ear' as Kurt Vonnegut has described music.

I'm going to the site right-away to check it out.

Interesting note.. here in Bowling Green, KY, at the 'downtown' Presbyterian church, is a 1976 Aeolian Skinner. Well, not Exactly... it is a sipes organ voiced by Robert Skinner, but it is a very nice two manual american classic tracker. (29 ranks). It does, however, have an aeolian skinner plaque on it. I've been told it was the last instrument voiced by Robert Skinner. Don't know if it's true, but there ya go!

the very large Baptist church here burnt to the ground a few years back, and when they rebuilt they installed a 57 rank Cassavant, 3 manuals, with kickin' sound, and a room built for musical performances. It has a 32' contra-basson (quarter scale). Electric 32' extensions on the diapasons and bourdons.

One of the dreams of retirement years is to tour the country and take in historic instrument recitals. I would love to experience the Riverside organ that Dr. Fox designed, under the fingers of a skilled player, of course.

anyway, thanks for the recommendations!

Forrest

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On 7/20/2003 6:31:39 PM jt1stcav wrote:

Virgil Fox and Jerry Garcia were both phenomenal musicians who will be sorely missed from the musical world. They had alot to contribute, and their unique styles of performing the music they loved so much will continue to influence new musicians for many generations to come! Just imagine if Virgil ever attended a Dead concert at the Golden Gate Park, or if Jerry ever saw Virgil jumping up and down on the organ bench at the Filmore East...groovy!

The purists were jealous of Virgil...they saw the natural talent he possessed, but rediculed him for his outlandish costumes and romantic renditions of Baroque organ music. I think Virgil understood Bach better than any other musician alive!

Virgil Fox was such a great entertainer off the bench as well...how I wish I could have attended one of his recitals, and listen to him enthral the audience with his stories.

Yeah, I know a little about the "King of Instruments"...I grew up on organs and the music composed and performed for them; my dad works for a small pipe organ servicing firm in CT, and their latest project is the complete restoration of the massive 1949 Aeolian-Skinner organ in Boston's Symphony Hall.

I don't know if you're familiar with the Dorian record label, but if you want to hear some exciting digital recordings by the renown French organist Jean Guillou on new important pipe organs (that have 32' reeds that will give your Cornwall's woofers a hellava workout), then go to www.dorian.com to their online catalog and scroll down the page to "Organ". There you'll find their complete organ listings...many of the CD's listed I own, and all are performed flawlessly, and the CD's sonics are spectacular!

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I agree with you about the clarity and presence. Today when I sang (shure sm58) and played the guitar (acoustic with seymour duncan woody pickup through a phase shifter) and a smattering of reverb... the effect was quite stunning.

The room is maybe 800 square feet... possibly a bit more... but certainly not a huge hall. I can understand how you're pleased with singing through the heresys!

Just out of curiousity, other then reverberation and echo, what effects do you like to put on your voice? Are you a tenor or a bass or both?

I've heard about aural exciters, and would like to know a little bit about them, but to be honest, I've never heard a bad singer cured by effects. I've heard good singers polished by effects, though. I'm a big fan of quality reverb, but rarely have I ever heard compression devices that I liked.

well, gotta go for now,

Forrest

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On 7/19/2003 12:13:06 AM IndyKlipschFan wrote:

In the for what it is worth catagory...

I have used, for some time now, the Heresy's to sing through, on top of the Cornwalls playing music Karaoke wise, with fantastic clearity, presence, dynamics, and could not be happier. The Heresy's are turned up a little more of course, vocals (with some fancy digital effects) are very clear and true through these. I would agree, do not to attempt to play with them at really loud concert levels. (Although sometimes at mid-high levels for sure is fun. LOL)

If you have good equipment going into these, that is clean etc., etc., how wonderful a sunday sermon must feel.

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Ah, the B Minor Mass...an Archive label if I recall...got that too. I imagine that recording does sound fabulous played in your Church building.

Sounds like Bowling Green has some prominent organ installations. Have you ever heard of The Organ Historical Society (www.organsociety.org)? This organization has many regional chapters, and is known for their interest and record keeping of historical organs throughout the United States, along with their Organ Clearing House, which relocate old abandoned organs to new homes. Many members are also in the organ business, and many organs are restored through them. The OHS also has an extensive archive department, which keeps records and other documentation of every known instrument and organ firm in the country (both past and present). They also have an extensive music catalog (www.ohscatalog.org) with CD's and DVD's, plus sheetmusic galore! It's an organ-lover's paradise.

For one week out of each summer the OHS holds organ conventions throughout every major city, and many important and historical pipe organs are visited and played. Recitals are held daily, along with lectures and organ crawls. You also enjoy the sights and hospitality of the host city and its many surroundings, all for about $300 a person. I've never had the chance to attend these conventions before, but I'm hoping to do so soon.

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How 'bout some Willette?? ... 'what Lola Wants...' Love that one...

I love B3 sound. There *is* no substitute in blues or jazz. I wish I could stroke the B3 like those guys. A guy I work with plays gospel soul and he can absolutely tear up a B3.

I was in Lincoln, NE several years back and saw a combo that I WISH i could remember the name of. The young fellow playing the B3 had it together. Everything from a sweet, high frequency saturated whispering 'coo' to an in-your-face growl that would impress a Bengal tiger.

The Sax/Clarinet player was no slouch either.

I've not taken any of my inherited vinyl over to the corns yet because there is no turntable set up there. Give me time.

Forrest

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Organ records? How 'bout Larry Young or Jimmy Smith?

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Reminds me of the mint 1955 Hammond B3 and its Leslie tone cabinet that a customer brought into our Guitar Center store to sell (we buy used instruments)...management bought the complete organ from him for $2500 (even included its original owners manual and console cover key). The next morning (after being cleaned up), it was displayed at our Keyboard Dept. That Hammond only sat on the floor for 4 hours until a customer walked on over to it, took one look at it and said (without even trying it out) he'll buy it! Paid $4500 cash for it, too!

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I can believe that Hammond B3 story. They are truly classic instruments. One other concert I remember being truly a toe-tapper (and butt-wagger, etc) was BB King's 70th birthday bash in Nashville TN (was that 95'.. it was a haze). Etta James was there, and an old, frail lookin' black fellow was tearing up the B3. Too fine! It was the first time I had heard Etta James live.

The player on Prarie Home Companion is able to do fine things with the B3 as well. (who????)

I've got a lot of old vinyl, unfortunately most of it was treated horribly, and truthfully... listening to it in that condition doesn't appeal to me that much. I really need the recordings I listen to repeatedly to be clean and sonically inspiring. I guess I lose a lot of exposure to history by being narrow like this, but I'm really able to appreciate, say, the contributions of the Carter family without listening to their (to me) flat recordings.

New Grass Revival (Bela Fleck! Sam Bush! Pat Flynn, John Cowen!) used to play in a bar just down the road from here not so many years back. I didn't know they were making Bluegrass history. I just dug the music I heard while having a few beers.

I don't have the funds to be able to acquire pristine quality vinyl from the <=50's, 60's, 70's, but I'm really thankful for re-issues and those folks who have an interest in restoring the sonic possibilities of old tape (and distributing their work on CD).

About the organs, I keep dreaming this daydream that I'm going to some country home answering a 'guitar for sale, plays nice, $100' type ad, and getting there and finding a Gibson 1950's era J-45.

Hasn't happened yet.

A nice sub would be finding another pair of 'large speakers' at a garage sale for $100.

Well, a fellow can dream, eh?

Forrest

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On 7/21/2003 7:06:00 PM jt1stcav wrote:

Reminds me of the mint 1955 Hammond B3 and its Leslie tone cabinet that a customer brought into our Guitar Center store to sell (we buy used instruments)...management bought the complete organ from him for $2500 (even included its original owners manual and console cover key). The next morning (after being cleaned up), it was displayed at our Keyboard Dept. That Hammond only sat on the floor for 4 hours until a customer walked on over to it, took one look at it and said (without even trying it out) he'll buy it! Paid $4500 cash for it, too!

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..."I keep dreaming this daydream that I'm going to some country home answering a 'guitar for sale, plays nice, $100' type ad, and getting there and finding a Gibson 1950's era J-45."

That's a wonderful dream. It could become a reality if you mozey on over to yer nearest Guitar Center and take a gander at their used and vintage guitars...of course, you'll pay more than a $100, but you can barter with the friendly and knowledgable sales associates. At our store, we have an acoustic (a Martin, I think) that's mint from ca. 1947, lots of Fenders and Gibsons from the '50's and '60's, and even a classic 1967 Hofmann bass that looks like Paul McCartney's "Beatles" bass!

We're celebrating our 39th anniversary all next month, with lots of specials and discounts on all gear...you may want to check it out.

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