maxg Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 This forum waxes and wanes with the tides it seems. Right now though we are definitely waxing. It is not uncommon for a thread that appears to be developing nicely suddenly and without warning degenerates into a name calling - my speakers/amps/CD player/cables/W.H.Y. are better than your speakers.... It is rarer, however, when a thread such as the one above returns to something far more palatable as is the case in another thread on this forum asking for a crate. Personally I take it as a sign of the health of things in 2 channel but I have a suggestion to keep it that way. From now on we should ban all obvious flaming to another forum which, for arguments sakes, we can call the "Pick a fight" forum. That way 2 channel can stay all matey and helpfull whilst those that feel the need to brawl can do so in their own area. Promising topics for the pick a fight forum could be: "Why B&W speakers are so much better than Klipsch" "Tubes and other distortion devices" "Vinyl - why would anyone go there?" "SACD's superiority over DVDa (or Vice versa)" "CD - perfect sound for ever" "Horns? Only in a PA system!" "Superiority of multi-channel over 2 channel for music playback" "Cables do/do not make a difference" "Soundstaging and other myths" "All amps/CD players sound the same" "Equalizers - the essential element of any good system" Bla bla bla - you get the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 maxg, my horns are better than your horns. That could start a flame going. Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Jazz is boring/Journey Rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysal Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 My horns is bigger than your horn! btw jazz DOES suck! thanks Max you are 100% on track with this, as I mentioned in some posting a while ago I think common courtesy has become something of a rare thing nowadays. too bad really, tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowooo Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Now Allan, you didn't have to pull out the Journey card! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 The only reason anyone would believe that jazz sucks is they are not using the right speaker cables. If your cables don't allow the pace, rythm and timing of music to come through undistorted, then jazz, in particular, will suffer. Music will lose it's life and inner meaning. I have found that Nordost cables, and to a lesser degree NBS, affect the timing of the back beat to the point where, say, Muddy Waters sounds like he hasn't had his morning cup of coffee. If you think jazz sucks, please Please PLEASE be aware that you need to swap out your speaker cables for something that passes the life of the music. I'd suggest this as a good place to start. If that doesn't work, the next place to start looking is the CD itself. Failure to paint the edges with green marker will allow the non-harmonic overtones to oscillate within the polycarbonate at a 2/3rds ratio to the primary, thus generating an odd-order distortion that will make jazz shound like sh*t. This is a simple case of blaming the message when it's the messanger that needs to be shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Let's ban the sanctimonious ramblings of all bongo-loving a*sholes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysal Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 ray has great cables and NO sense of humor...my statements were examples of the type of thing max was refering to, humor, joke, remember those?...I happen to have over 200 jazz recordings, ranging from the 1920's to the late 60's and love jazz...LOL@ray....oh and " my cables are better than your cables!" (for those of you unsure...THAT was another joke) tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile homeless Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Heh...ole Allan. As usual, Ray is living up to his avatar. Tony, some of the banter is amusing and part of any forum, as long as it has some wit or humor. Some responses are more subtle than others and some are like bringing out the Brickbat... The brickbat is far less amusing and paints an ugly picture. But it all adds to the variety. kh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted September 12, 2003 Author Share Posted September 12, 2003 Who is going to break it to Ray that some people really dont like jazz? Frankly whilst I dont mind jazz I tend to use it only for demoing/testing equipment as the recordings are so good but otherwise there are many other forms of music I listen to first. Now if he had said classical I would, of course, agreed immediately. To play classical you really do need silver cables. Really really really - although copper will do at a pinch, or gold if anyone uses that, possibly some of the fancier metals too...but lets draw the line at plastic OK - never play classical music with plastic cables - it really wont do justice to the music. Of course you might be advised to read my signature before ignoring this - and take into account I only have a few brief years experience in audio (almost as little as that guy that builds/modifies the bulbie amp thingies with newer wotsits, gizmos and whatever). Oh look - an opened bottle of Glenfidich - er - bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile homeless Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Max, who is going to break it to you that Ray was posting tongue in cheek? FOr the love of pete, I hope he was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysal Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 I saw no tongue in cheek but then I am perhaps less acute in detecting humor...if so I stand corrected...my brick bat needs pointing...tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 I'm certain there is an off the shelf technology that could be added as a module for the bbs software for automatic flame detection and then send a spike across the internet to the flamer's computer. BTW, Mobile, I could use some help with my avatar. (This is no joke) I'd like to change to Picasso's Don Quixote and Sancho. I have this print on the wall in my office to remind me that it's o.k. if people think I am crazy. Klipsch Heritage folks are suspected of being a few bricks shy of a load. If they like tubes, then their elevators don't go to the top floor. Even more so, if they own SET, the lights are on but nobody is home. On the Avatar, I haven't been able to resize the image to the 40x44 pixel size with satisfactory results. Any suggestions? Well, I mean, non-flaming suggestions and especially no anatomical suggestions. Thanks. Dee p.s. Tony, wry and dry wit takes alot of energy for me to read, also. I know I'm simple minded, but the smiley face icons really help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 uh, Tony... "...I saw no tongue in cheek..." "...Failure to paint the edges with green marker will allow the non-harmonic overtones to oscillate within the polycarbonate at a 2/3rds ratio to the primary..." For the record (is that FTR in web speak?) that was supposed to be tongue in cheek, as was the comment about wires... And anyway, whose tongue are we talking about and why is it in my cheek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysal Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 sorry ray, as I said I am finishing up a hard week and perhaps my humor radar is on the fritz...I can confirm that it is most certianly NOT MY TONGUE in your cheek! regards, tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted September 12, 2003 Author Share Posted September 12, 2003 What Kelly??? And my post was serious?? There is more to this humour thing than meets the eye... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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