Deang Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 What are you using for a preamp Erfan? Ideally, you would want a preamp with two main outs. I would run the RF-7s full range, and then run a second set of interconnects to the sub from the second set of main outs on the preamp. This way, you are only using the low pass section of the sub's crossover. I would then set the crossover on the sub to its lowest setting, and start experimenting for the best sound. It usually only takes about an hour to figure out what works best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch RF7 Posted September 13, 2004 Author Share Posted September 13, 2004 Dean, I am using a Audio Symphonies preamp, the only outputs it has is 4 left and right RCA outputs. currently i am using one set of Left and Right for my amps but next to them is another pair of left and right outs, could i use those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 "What I am trying to achieve is better bass response, I want some heavy bass and was looking to use a pair of the solid state amps for the low frequencies. How would you guys go about it, should I just split the left and right signals with a Y splitter as MDeneen suggested and have the signal go to each amp and then run the LF posts to the solid state amps and the HF posts to the Dynaco Mark III's?" In your instance, Bi-AMPING will not be the answer. If you have RF7 and need more bass, a Subwoofer is the only answer. Unless your preamp is very substandard, replacing it will not help. Tone controls like EQ will not give you necessarily more powerful bass, may just muddy things up. Most modern subs will give you an option of line level (from your preamp via RCA plugs) or speaker level (your speaker leads go here, the sub does an electronic xover, sending lowest couple octaves to sub, saving your RF7's from having to reproduce these notes) and provides amp power to push those kicking notes. From the Klipsch category I would recommend NOT using the KSW series and they aren't big enough to keep up with RF7, you'll need RW 12 or 15. Don't waste $$ on other improvements til you have a sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Is this your unit? http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?preatube&1097724957 So, it appears you have four sets of inputs, and yes -- two sets of main outs. Looks like you are good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch RF7 Posted September 14, 2004 Author Share Posted September 14, 2004 ---------------- On 9/14/2004 6:08:17 AM DeanG wrote: Is this your unit? http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?preatube&1097724957 So, it appears you have four sets of inputs , and yes -- two sets of main outs. Looks like you are good to go. ---------------- Yup, that is my exact unit Cool man!!! I am now going to buy a RSW sub, Im deciding between 15" or 12", I know the smaller sub will have better control of the bass but debating if i should just buy the bigger one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Klipsch RF7 Posted September 14, 2004 Author Share Posted September 14, 2004 I really want to thank everyone for thier time and help in this matter, it is greatly appreciated. I picked up a Klipsch RSW-15 tonight from my local Ultimate Electronics store, they had a black floor model sitting there all by its lonesome, had a reduced price of $1350 on it. Went and spoke to a manager and told him I can get a brand new one on line for much less, will suffice to say I walked out of the store with the subwoofer and paid $974 including taxes, I have it setup and jamming away and trying to fine tune the crossover point with the RF-7's! What frequency do you guys recommend i start with to try to mesh the woofer and the mains? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 See my post/response in your thread over in the HT section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch RF7 Posted September 14, 2004 Author Share Posted September 14, 2004 ---------------- On 9/14/2004 10:21:41 PM DeanG wrote: See my post/response in your thread over in the HT section. ---------------- Dean, I read it, very nice write up and I responded with a question as well. I really appreciate you taking your time to write out some of the instructions! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I didn't see the question -- what did you ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflash Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 RF7, The pictures not my dog, but that is what she (Grace) looks like. I know it's still early and you are still playing around with the sub, but how do you like the sound? Did this give you the slam you were looking for? I have read so many different points of view about using a seperate sub I really would like to hear your thought's. Good job about getting the price knocked down. Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch RF7 Posted September 15, 2004 Author Share Posted September 15, 2004 ---------------- On 9/15/2004 10:19:52 AM dbflash wrote: RF7, The pictures not my dog, but that is what she (Grace) looks like. I know it's still early and you are still playing around with the sub, but how do you like the sound? Did this give you the slam you were looking for? I have read so many different points of view about using a seperate sub I really would like to hear your thought's. Good job about getting the price knocked down. Danny ---------------- Nice I really like the sub, I only got to play with it for a few hours total since i bought it last night at 9 p.m. and got home and had to set it up and listened till about 11:30. From what I auditioned in that time frame, it reallys sounds good! The bass is crisp and tight, hits hard and really makes a big diffrence in bass performance. This subwoofer is a keeper and sounds wonderful for such big driver, it has 2 15" drivers, one 15" driver in the front and another 15" passive radiator in the back, it thumps!!!!! Well worth $900 i paid for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflash Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Glad to hear it. I think you came out cheap. There are many (me) who would have started swapping out amps, preamps, wire, speakers, etc to get the sound you have now. You need to put on a Ray Brown CD and listen to some accoustic bass or Down to the Bone jazz CD. That will test your sub. Hope you really enjoy your system now and start another AUDIO post soon. Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Well, he got the right sub that's for sure. I think it's a plus if the drivers in the mains and sub match. Needless to say (but I'm going to say it anyways) -- those three pieces were voiced together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch RF7 Posted September 15, 2004 Author Share Posted September 15, 2004 ---------------- On 9/15/2004 1:02:32 PM dbflash wrote: Glad to hear it. I think you came out cheap. There are many (me) who would have started swapping out amps, preamps, wire, speakers, etc to get the sound you have now. You need to put on a Ray Brown CD and listen to some accoustic bass or Down to the Bone jazz CD. That will test your sub. Hope you really enjoy your system now and start another AUDIO post soon. Danny ---------------- Cool, will do on the Jazz discs. Ill cruise amazon for a used copy of Ray Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch RF7 Posted September 15, 2004 Author Share Posted September 15, 2004 ---------------- On 9/15/2004 1:09:51 PM DeanG wrote: Well, he got the right sub that's for sure. I think it's a plus if the drivers in the mains and sub match. Needless to say (but I'm going to say it anyways) -- those three pieces were voiced together. ---------------- Oh yeah, I will tweak it further over the weekend when i am home all day to sit and listen and play! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflash Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 One I like is Ray Brown Trio Live at Starbucks Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch RF7 Posted September 15, 2004 Author Share Posted September 15, 2004 ---------------- On 9/15/2004 1:58:05 PM dbflash wrote: One I like is Ray Brown Trio Live at Starbucks Danny ---------------- Nice, I will grab a used copy online from amazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Erfan, Will you come to Rhode Island the next time I need to buy a big ticket item? Nice pickup! Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch RF7 Posted September 15, 2004 Author Share Posted September 15, 2004 ---------------- On 9/15/2004 4:03:58 PM 3dzapper wrote: Erfan, Will you come to Rhode Island the next time I need to buy a big ticket item? Nice pickup! Rick ---------------- You bet! I know how to work these people, dont ever go by sticker price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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