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im going with the rf-35 system...whats a good receiver for it?


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On 11/17/2004 2:26:52 AM dippafly wrote:

Yamaha HTR5760S Dolby Digital Receiver

Yamaha HTR5750S Dolby Digital Receiver

Yamaha HTR5790S Dolby Digital Receiver

Yamaha HTR5740S Dolby Digital Receiver

Yamaha HTRS5730S Dolby Digital Receiver

Whats the best choice for me?


Buy one from a store that gives you 30 days money back, try it, then upgrade if your not happy.2.gif

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pioneer elite vsx-56txi

blows away the yamaha in sound and compatability with klipsch speakers - pioneers are known for a slightly warmer sound that matches up well with klipsch speakers.....

if that one is out of your price range - go with the 54txi or 52tx.....

the one feature that is consistent with all these receivers is the 3rd generation of MCACC - the auto eq/room correction feature which can dramatically improve the sound in your room.....

here is a little info on the MCACC system....

MCACC: Get the best from your home theater speakers

This article is all about optimizing the sound from your home theater speakers.

If you just happen to have a professional recording studio in your home, you can stop reading now. For everyone else: read on to learn how to achieve a remarkable improvement in sonic performance-without hiring an expert.

The audio from movies and music is carefully and precisely mixed on very sophisticated equipment, in rooms that have perfect acoustics. But what happens to this audio when it's played back in your media room? Unfortunately, you'll most likely lose some-or maybe most-of the extreme precision from the original mix. Room size and shape, wall textures, hard wood floors, the quality and relative size of your speakersall of these factors affect audio performance.

Acoustic calibration

In order for your speakers to perform at an optimal level in your media room, they need to be fine-tuned for that very room. It sounds complicated, but select Elite and Pioneer receivers have made it really easy. It's called Multi-Channel Acoustic Calibration System, or MCACC.

MCACC- a Pioneer world's first-evaluates your speakers and the acoustic characteristics of your media room, then calibrates the audio levels accordingly, for professional-quality sonic performance. Essentially, MCACC is precisely calculating how big a signal to send to each of your speakers, and exactly when to send it. MCACC works in any room, regardless of shape or size, and set-up is easy

The benefits of MCACC

With MCACC, you can have the ultimate home theater-one that's customized for your own home. Here are few of its benefits:

A more natural sonic mix between speakers and a much wider sound stage.

An improved sound field, especially from surround speakers.

A longer reverb that is more like that of the original soundtrack.

More sonic detail. Now, certain sounds which were previously masked by other sounds can be heard for the first time on your system.

How MCACC works

Three levels of MCACC are featured in various Elite and Pioneer AV receivers:


Automatic - 2 types


Manual MCACC

Manual MCACC utilizes the front left speaker as a reference point to begin the calibration process. Specially developed test tones are generated by the receiver and emitted through the speakers; using the receiver's remote, you'll be coached through a few simple steps until the tones being reproduced by each speaker are aligned to the front left reference channel. By using this reference point for your ears, you can ensure that each speaker delivers sound back to your listening position at precisely the correct time and at the same level. If you have assembled your surround speakers piece by piece, rather than buying them as one system, Manual MCACC will result in a big sonic improvement.

Manual MCACC is featured on these models:

Pioneer VSX-D812K

Pioneer VSX-D712K

Automatic MCACC 1

Automatic MCACC 1 makes speaker calibration even simpler. Receivers with this feature provide a sensitive calibration microphone-which you'll place at your typical listening position in the room. Once all your speakers are connected to the receiver, simply press the calibration button and Automatic MCACC 1 begins its analysis to determine the number and type of speakers connected, their distance from the listening position, and their sound pressure levels. Once the initial set-up calibration has confirmed your specific speaker configuration, Automatic MCACC 1 automatically makes all the necessary adjustments for you. It will know how many speakers you have, whether they're large or small speakers, how much delay (if any) is required for each-so all of your sound arrives to you at precisely the same time-and sound levels, so all of the sound reaches you at the same volume.

Automatic MCACC 1 is featured on the:

Pioneer VSX-D912K

Automatic MCACC 2

Automatic MCACC 2 does everything that Automatic MCACC 1 does with the addition of a nine-band digital equalizer, which automatically performs frequency response measurements to each channel for final calibration. Here's how it works: once Automatic MCACC 2 has checked and adjusted for the number and type of speakers, channel delay, and channel levels, another series of sound "sweeps" are emitted to measure your room's "acoustic signature". The goal is to identify and neutralize areas of the room that are adversely affecting the overall sound-field, and then make the equalization adjustments necessary to create a true studio environment in your home. This allows you to get the most out of each of your speakers. Hard walls, furniture, open areas, and vaulted ceilings are examples of acoustic obstacles that are now easily and accurately overcome. Once your room's equalization measurements are taken, Automatic MCACC 2 applies equalization to each of up to 7 channels. This sounds like a long process, but all it requires from you is positioning the microphone and pushing a button on the remote. That's it!

In addition, our Elite VSX-55TXi and VSX-53TX provide manual control of the equalizers and have two "custom memories" so you can fine-tune the system for various sources and place your settings in memory. Automatic MCACC 2 also provides a "front align" mode that will adjust your "effect speakers"; center and surrounds, to the same tonal characteristic as your main front speakers. This is a very useful feature for systems that utilize different brands of speakers that may have different frequency response characteristics.

To help you visualize how Automatic MCACC 2 works, here's a short Flash presentation.

Automatic MCACC 2 is featured on these models:

Elite VSX-55TXi (enhanced version)

Elite VSX-53TX (enhanced version)

Elite VSX-49TXi

Advanced MCACC

Advanced MCACC takes all of the benefits of Automatic MCACC 2 and adds several groundbreaking improvements.

Professional Acoustic Calibration set-up takes into consideration the reverberant qualities of your media room, and uses this information to adjust the frequency response more accurately for human ears. It distinguishes the difference between the direct sound from each speaker and the reflected sound off your room's walls.

Advanced MCACC performs two separate equalizations for the room and for your speakers. Once set-up is complete, you can select one of these two EQ settings:

All-Channel EQ: equalizes all speakers to neutralize ambient reflections and create a much flatter frequency response.

Front Alignment EQ: equalizes only your "effect speakers" (center, surround right and left, surround-back right and left, and subwoofer) to match the tonal character of your main front right and left speakers. If you prefer to have your main speakers "left alone", select this setting.

Advanced MCACC gives you some choices about how to handle the calibration process:

Auto Pro: the receiver outputs test tones, and automatically adjusts the frequency balance for each speaker in accordance with the reverb characteristics in the listening room.

Manual Pro: the receiver measures the room acoustics with reverb and displays this information on a connected TV screen. Once the reverb characteristic in each frequency band is measured, you can select which timing frequency to use for manual calibration.

Advanced MCACC also features X-Curve, a popular measurement used in professional theaters and dubbing suite designs, which compensates for psycho-acoustic effects depending on the size of the listening room. Pioneer has developed a "living room-sized" version of X-Curve that's perfect for home entertainment tuning. Using Advanced MCACC, X-Curve compensation will generate perfect flat frequency response, which not only calibrates the physical tonal balance but also corrects for the human brain's interpretation of the sound as it's affected by the size of the room. The X-Curve can be implemented manually or automatically.

In addition, the VSX-59TXi enables you to actually view your room's EQ curves-before and after equalization-on your PC, via an RS232C interface.

Advanced MCACC is featured on the:

Elite VSX-59TXi, due in stores in January 2004
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I have the RF-35's and at first went with a lower end Pioneer receiver and I was never happy with the sound. I saved some money and went with seperates. I purchased a used Parasound HCA-855A and mated with a new Outlaw 950 Pre/Pro. The combo is excellent in my humble opinion.

Just my 0.02

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