dgb Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 While the Pearl Harbor attack was successful, it was far from catastrophic. Sunk a bunch of fairly useless battleships. Carriers won the battle of the Pacific, and none of the US Carriers were in port. A lot of obvious signs were disregarded, but that was the failings of local commanders, not the federal government. ---------------- On 12/6/2004 5:59:34 PM SteelerFan wrote: Being this time of year, how about the series of decisions (or non-decisions) that lead to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor being so successful? ---------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 To our young friend. Please consider polling other groups of people for your sampling, as this group is not statistically a random cross section of the population. Remember that we are for the most part: Male, 30-55, financially well off, opinionated (apparently). A pretty narrow slice of Americana. Poll your Mom's friends, classmates, others if you really want to pursue this topic. Go look up a WWII veteran and ask him if you want a really good answer. How bout Mayor of your town or other civic leaders. They are sure to have opinions. Perhaps limit responses to 10, 25 is just too much if you're really trying to distill it down to the WORST 10, and then research them. Is there any reason you can't flip this around and check out America's top SUCCESSES, or brilliant ploys? Researching any of these topic is of great historical value, it's just what the extended negativity will do the impressionable brain that worries me (us). Nothing wrong with your thesis, just beware that you are lurking on the evil side of things and may get discouraged with what you find. Hope we're helping. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I really think everything else we may have done wrong pales in comparison to the Vietnam War. Started under false pretenses. Sold to an American public as an effort to contain aggressive communist expansion - which it was not. Later Vietnam - China war illustrated wrongheadedness of that claim. Continued as an expensive, painful and devisive War of Attrition. Deeply divided this country. Students shot at Kent State. Riots in Chicago at democratic convension. Over 50,000 American soldiers killed. Over 30 years later, many Viet vets still living with horrific memories and unable to live normal lives. Destroyed an entire generation's trust in the American political scene, Washington, our leaders and our Country's motivations. All for * NOTHING *. If we had never been involved in Vietnam, would the world situation today look any different than it does? Other, that is, than perhaps our own country's wounds having never occured, 50,000 fathers being alive, and a degree of trust and faith in our appointed leaders being restored to previous levels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgb Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I work at a large university, and there is a distinct "Liberal Bias". Certainly these are well educated, and well meaning people, but they do blame America for most of the worlds ills and they tend to be socialists. Nothing wrong with that on a personal level, but they fill these students heads with very skewed, sometimes grossly false information. And I can tell from you comparison of a simple, fairly accurate statement to the Cultural Revolution that you either have no idea what the Cultural Revolution or Stalin's Purges were, or are being hysterical for dramatic effect. Your pedantic explination of the word "liberal", which all learned in about 5th grade, is the attitude that pisses off "regular" people and only hinders your cause. ---------------- On 12/6/2004 6:58:59 PM meuge wrote: ---------------- On 12/6/2004 4:13:29 PM WS65711 wrote: Number 1 Blunder - Allowing the "Blame America First" mentality to become so pervasive and entrenched in Academic Society. ---------------- Uhuh... keep going - see where that leads you. Why not just kill everyone who has anything beyond a high school diploma. After that, we can also eliminate everyone who can think at early age. And then we'll have a utopian society where everyone will be an obedient, productive, average member of a stagnant society. A hint - look up China's "cultural revolution" and Stalin's "purges" in a good history book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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