maxg Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I filled my external 160 Gb drive - I can't believe it!! Took less than 3 months too. So....I bought another one - of course they dont make 160's any more - 300 Gb!! 300!!!!! OMFG - we are talking weeks to fill that Of course daisy chaining the 2 together over firewire crashed big time (support call into Maxstor as I type) so I got one on the server and one on my workstation (in the office that is - I dont have a dedicated server at home - all peer to peer). Definitly glad I didnt go wireless - I am moving 100 Gb of data here!! Anyway I will leave the 160 at the office and use the 300 as the main home storage / portable office backup. Just sharing - tee hee - as in info not just data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 ---------------- Of course daisy chaining the 2 together over firewire crashed big time ---------------- Are these PC's? Never seen this behavior on OS X unless of course the OS is on the Firewire drive and I unplug it : ). Firewire is incredible I want to experiment with using the IP over Firewire which I just haven't had time to do. I want a computer that runs on tubes so I have a better chance of surviving emp from a nuke : ) wonder how big that would be hmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 Yup Seti - PC's they are - doesnt that just figure! I think you will find computers used to run on tubes / valves. They were not small and not powerful. I guess a modern PC portable like mine would require a city block to build with tubes. and if you wanted to have 460 Gb of storage on tapes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Not too big, you could fit it in your house if you move out. Of course you would have to learn to do with a kilo byte of RAM and punch cards for input and memory. Not good for gaming! Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 How many puchcards would it take to fill my crappy mp3 collection ? Hmmmmmm It couldn't possibly cost that much to run HAH. A friend and I were going to pick up this old mainframe from Chicago until we found out the Power/AC bill alone was $10K a month. It was free but the WAF factor would have been off the charts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 Well I wasnt expecting any problems either. I am wondering if it was the fact that one drive was 160 Gb and formatted using Win32 and the other was 300 GB and formatted using NTFS that was the problem. I thought I would be safe with both drives from the same manufacturer - ah well. We will see what Maxstor say - maybe there it is a known bug and there is a workaround. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Disc Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I believe Panther 10.3 is 64-bit. I could be mistaken. ---------------- On 12/14/2004 11:56:08 AM mdeneen wrote: I regularly daisy chain 160GB drives on Firewire with OS X and have no problems. Same drives are also accessed wirelessly from other computers running iTunes - again, no problem. But hey, it's a MAC and 32-bit UNIX is far more reliable than DOS! mdeneen ---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Hmm now I have seen problems with PCs if they temporarily loose connection with a firewire drive this can lock them up perhaps when you plugged in the other drive it temporarily lost it's mind and seemed to be unavailable which sent winders into the downward spiral. Just a guess have you tried shutting down the computer plugging them the firewire drives in perhaps even in a different order and then booting up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 ---------------- On 12/14/2004 12:06:00 PM No Disc wrote: I believe Panther 10.3 is 64-bit. I could be mistaken. If you have a G5 it is 64bit gimmie gimmie ---------------- On 12/14/2004 11:56:08 AM mdeneen wrote: I regularly daisy chain 160GB drives on Firewire with OS X and have no problems. Same drives are also accessed wirelessly from other computers running iTunes - again, no problem. But hey, it's a MAC and 32-bit UNIX is far more reliable than DOS! mdeneen ---------------- Unix is lightyears ahead of DOS\Windows hmm let see it's been in development since the 60's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 I tried a bunch of variations in cabling, boot order etc. The drives boot fine and both are accessible until the time you start to do a big copy - then it says "preparing to copy" a bunch of flashing lights on the drives, some humming, a waltz around the CPU and the system hangs. Well hangs isnt really the right word - XP doesnt generally do that - it sort of stops and continues EXTREMELY slowly. If you are patent the computer comes back in about 20 mintues of you telling it to close a "not responding application". Then you get a message about a buffer not emptying or something and it is time for all good men to re-boot. I had 3 goes - all with my anti-virus auto-protect disabled (learned that one the hard way - never do big copies with the AV on - slows everything down to 25% of usualy speed - Norton anyway!). Frankly this is just a one off exercise anyway. One disk will remain at the office - one at home. I just want to pick up useful stuff from the one in the office to have an off-site backup. The network has worked flawlessly thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 OK - all done - 136 Gb copied safely. My poor network is exhausted - I think I will give it the rest of the day off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Disc Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Max, Check with the vendor of the Firewire drive. There could be a firmware update for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Disc Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Max, Stop messin around and get one of these..... http://www.medea.com/flash2/FrameSets/ProductFrame.cfm?MAIN=VideoG-RAID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Disc Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Or even better, get one of these... 1 TeraByte of storage baby. http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10462 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 At my last job I was in charge of a 4TB SAN well RAID 10 so that made it 2TB and yes we managed to slice a bit off for ourselves for storing mpg/mp3s. Dam that was fast nothing better than fiberoptic storage. I miss that leviathan and it's blinky lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I have windows xp professional and never had a crash. So are there more benefits to a mac os than reliability? Because mine seems pretty stable. I do notice after a year or two it's starting to slow down. The downloading of web pages are starting creap a bit. I had xp me and it crashed all the time. Then again I was a beginner, and man was it frustrating learning on a computer that crashed all the time. Any recomendations on how to get my web pages to pop up quicker? Sorry if this is off topic. I figured I would sneek a question in on the tech talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 ---------------- On 12/14/2004 6:02:39 PM wheelman wrote: I have windows xp professional and never had a crash. So are there more benefits to a mac os than reliability? Because mine seems pretty stable. I do notice after a year or two it's starting to slow down. The downloading of web pages are starting creap a bit. I had xp me and it crashed all the time. Then again I was a beginner, and man was it frustrating learning on a computer that crashed all the time. Any recomendations on how to get my web pages to pop up quicker? Sorry if this is off topic. I figured I would sneek a question in on the tech talk. ---------------- I have to use windows and os x for work but for personal use I prefer OS X just a preference like ss or tube. I had a win2k pro computer go almost 2 years without a reinstall which was a record for me. Now with all the adware/spyware/virus/trojan issues that are out it can be easily avoided by using mac os x. I have issues with an OS that will let software load on your computer without your knowledge just by visiting a webpage very dangerous imho. I wish I had bought my parents a mac as I spend many hours a month cleaning up after them. I think as an OS windows was at it's height with win2k pro and or win98 se. If you want to see how bloated and slow windows has become put win 98se on a new machine and it will just scream. I think this is why alot of people are using linux/os x instead of windows now. If your internet connection has slowed down it could be because of to much adware/spyware try running adaware if you haven't already. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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