which receiver for reference 35 series?

[Kaiser]

I'm looking at buying a 5.1 Reference 35 serious with the KW 12 subwoofer. Which receiver might you recommend? I was thinking the Denon 2105. Would I benefit by getting the 2805? I'm completely new to HT. Thanks

[IAmtnbikr]

I have a 2105 and love it. Powers up my RF-25's, RC-25, RB-25's, and BIC H-100 5.1 combo with ease and a nice clean sound, and sometimes I drag out a pair of RB-15's to make it 7.1 for movies. I got the receiver as a refurb at dakmart.com and was quite happy with the service and price. They also give a one year warranty on the refurbs.

[Kaiser]

You know why people buy Floorstand versus Bookshelf more often? Don't they produce sound essentially the same?

[GeorgeV]

The best piece of advice I can give you would be:

Demo the receiver with the 35's and if you like the sound, then that is all the matters. Everyone hears differently.

To answer your second question, floor standing speakers usually have better bass response then bookshelf speakers do. However, if you buy a sub and use it for music, HT and you want to save floor space, bookshelf speakers work great.

[meuge]

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On 3/9/2005 11:46:44 AM Kaiser wrote:

You know why people buy Floorstand versus Bookshelf more often? Don't they produce sound essentially the same?

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The Klipsch floorstanders have 2 woofer cones vs. 1 on the bookshelves. Larger cone area + larger air displacement -> bigger sound. Also, floorstanders are tuned a lot lower due to the size of the enclosure, thus increasing their bass extension. And finally, floorstanders don't require stands : )

[Colin]

Everybody does not hear differently: they focus on different things and express themselves differently:

E. Toole, Ph.D., Vice President Acoustical Engineering, Harman International Industries, Inc. http://www.harman.com/wp/pdf/AudioScience.pdf

all of the tests were conducted blind. Other physical and psychological factors known to be sources of bias were also well controlled . The results were very clear. When the data

were compiled, it turned out that most people, most of the time, liked and disliked the same loudspeakers.

All of these ERRATIC listeners had hearing loss.

Early reected sounds have been reected only once in transit and, in most domestic-size rooms, will arrive within approximately the first twenty to thirty milliseconds (ms) after the direct sound.

Wide dispersion or multidirectional loudspeakers generate lots of early reflections, meaning that, for such speakers the acoustics of the room are major determinants in how they sound.

All-round good on-axis behavior makes a loudspeaker very room friendly, with

a high probability of sounding good in a wide variety of rooms.

Price is certainly an unreliable indicator of sonic excellence.

Our ears are very highly attuned to the detection and evaluation of resonances, and it

is therefore no surprise that listeners zero in on them as unwanted editorializing

when they appear in loudspeakers.

many commonly-used and published measurements simply cannot reveal visual evidence

of certain kinds of audible problems falling within a critical portion of the frequency

range that of the human voice and below.

An interesting fact now emerges: that the conventional method of specifying frequency response, ± x dB, is useless unless the tolerance is very, very small. High-Q phenomena could

be ± 5 dB, while moderate-Q resonances could be ± 3 dB and low-Q and other broadband deviations could be ± 0.5 dB, and all of them would be equally audible!

It is easy to understand how the popular belief that you cant measure what

you can hear came to be. Bad measurements and useless specifications are responsible.

Among the results are conclusions that the flatness and smoothness of high-resolution on-axis curves need to be given substantial weighting.

The winners are easy to pick; flat and smooth are beautiful.

Floorstanders deliever better bass, which is hard to do, yet the bass is everything in a complete sound system. Plus, they are often located away from the walls, which improves soundstage and imagaing tremondously.