damonrpayne Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Anyone actually have one of these? How is it? Just curious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygmn Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Read article the other day where MS is being sued by class action since these new machines overheat and then lock up..... It was on yahoo news somewhere..... If true it seems maybe they rushed to market a bit too soon....IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonrpayne Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 Could be. The obviously wanted to beat Sony to the punch. I'm probably waiting for a PS3 myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygmn Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I see the PS3 in my AHEM son's future as well....hehehe Metal Gear Solid 4 designed for PS3 looks like fun.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARPRINCE Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Anyone actually have one of these? How is it? Just curious! I got one and I really like it a lot. I only use it for games so I don't stream MP3's or watch DVDs on it. I play Call of Duty 2, 720P to my HDTV and it looks great. I love the online multiplayer games too. Some unit have been having problems, hang-ups, heating up, etc. but I have never had the problem...so far. The unit and especially the power supply is really heavy compared to a PS2. Weight comparison is to like a big notebook (Dell XPS M170). Wireless controller design is superb and doesn't feel cheap. Overall, great unit IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommiwan Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I also have one, and I love it. The graphics are amazing, and the games are good. The xbox live marketplace is cool because you can download game demos, and high definition movei trailers. I am running digital audio to my reciever so the sound is great too. Probably my favorite feature is being able to stream mp3's off my pc and listen on them on my rf35's. I have the 2.1 computer speakers but with as much music as I have it's great to hear it on my 35's. don't get me wrong there are things I dislike, but I have had no overheating issues, and I am overall happy with the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dblue Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I LOVE mine. Call of Duty 2 is awesome, looks and runs better than the PC version. The dashboard interface is super-slick, and the media center functionality is awesome, except for the lack of xvid and divx codecs (may support in future). You can stream music, movies, pictues, etc...hit the big x button on the controller to access the dashboard at any time or play any music on your network in game...awesome. Couple that with great XBOX live arcade games for cheap (smash TV, geometry wars evolved), backward compatibility (still been playing Halo 2 online) and the best controller ever, and I've been glued to it for days. And yes, the first run of systems had problems....it's funny that no one remembers all the problems PS2 had at the time of launch ( I worked at babbage's at the time). The average system failure at launch for any console ever is 3-5%...Microsoft is well below this threshold, around the same as the PS2, Gamecube, or Xbox 1 launch. As for the PS3, I'll buy one if they make a God of War sequel or Shadow of the Colossus sequel, but I guarantee it'll have the same sort of problems at launch (the PSP was a nightmare, sony is not known for their quality)...there is a class action lawsuit against them right now that actually holds water...disc read errors on consoles sold up to 3 years after their launch...ahem. The microsoft lawsuit was thrown out of court BTW. Add to that the fact that lately Sony's strategy has been to plany rootkits on their consumers devices and computers, and I'll say no thanks until they prove that it's worth the $500 price tag it's likely to carry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletcherkane Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 What I don't understand, is the shortage of units. MS had to know about the demand for this unit. The same thing happened with xb1 and ps2. If you weren't in line hours before the launch, you couldn't get one for months. Do they do this on purpose, or are they really that inept at meeting demand? Its just annoying..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonrpayne Posted December 18, 2005 Author Share Posted December 18, 2005 Its well known that a little shortage at launch helps to hype to launch. I imagine it's on purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dblue Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Well, it's not exactly on purpose... Think about it. The final hardware structure for the 360 until about August (the betas were shown at E3, but those weren't final). So they had from August to November to get as many as they could produced and distributed (not a lot of time at all). This is compounded when you consider that this is a completely new custom chip...there are ALWAYS manufacturing issues with new chip dyes, and they process is constantly refined over the first few months to reduce/eliminate dud chips coming off the line (the dud factor is always high at the beginning of manufacturing of a new chip). Compound that with a worldwide launch (never been done before) and you have your shortage explained. My brother-in-law is an area manager for gamestop, and he exchanged his first run console. First one manufactured in August, new ones in November. So, despite speculation, I doubt the shortages were purposeful or manufactured (even though I originally thought they were until I did some reading). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARPRINCE Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Well, it's not exactly on purpose... Think about it. The final hardware structure for the 360 until about August (the betas were shown at E3, but those weren't final). So they had from August to November to get as many as they could produced and distributed (not a lot of time at all). This is compounded when you consider that this is a completely new custom chip...there are ALWAYS manufacturing issues with new chip dyes, and they process is constantly refined over the first few months to reduce/eliminate dud chips coming off the line (the dud factor is always high at the beginning of manufacturing of a new chip). This is I guess the main reason why you have those overheating, game freeze, and other problems some users are encountering with the unit. As a matter of fact, Microsoft already had support articles in their website prior to launching the unit. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;907588 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;907586 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;906652 Also, ever wondered why the unit came with a microsoft offer for a 2 year extended warranty? Makes me really ponder. But all is well for me until I get any of those problems so I'm knocking on wood. I would most likely get the extended warranty too before the 90 day basic warranty is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Don't have mine yet. Just couldn't see standing in line all night. Every time I check the stores around here, they still have not seen any new shipments since the original launch shipment. However, the good news is, I hear Japan got theirs. <--insert sarcasm I understand Microsoft wants to compete with Sony, that's great, but if I'm not mistaken PS3 is not due for months right? That being the case, why didn't microsoft give the states at least another month of supply before supplying Japan and other countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonrpayne Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 I don't know all the marketing details, but simultaneous worldwide launch is becoming a bigger deal for US based companies. There is still no firm release date for the PS3 but I'm sure it'll be April or later. I can wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dblue Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Well, it's not exactly on purpose... Think about it. The final hardware structure for the 360 until about August (the betas were shown at E3, but those weren't final). So they had from August to November to get as many as they could produced and distributed (not a lot of time at all). This is compounded when you consider that this is a completely new custom chip...there are ALWAYS manufacturing issues with new chip dyes, and they process is constantly refined over the first few months to reduce/eliminate dud chips coming off the line (the dud factor is always high at the beginning of manufacturing of a new chip). This is I guess the main reason why you have those overheating, game freeze, and other problems some users are encountering with the unit. As a matter of fact, Microsoft already had support articles in their website prior to launching the unit. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;907588 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;907586 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;906652 Also, ever wondered why the unit came with a microsoft offer for a 2 year extended warranty? Makes me really ponder. But all is well for me until I get any of those problems so I'm knocking on wood. I would most likely get the extended warranty too before the 90 day basic warranty is over. I am glad that I did get one from the second shipment! [] Yeah, I'm excited for the PS3 as well, I'd like to see some more details on the machine and some 'real' graphics. Sony's E3 booth was all smoke and mirrors. I'll probably get it when there's a game I can't pass up. After all, right now, I have a Gamecube, PS2, XBOX, and XBOX 360 hooked up to my rig...[:$]. (And a Dreamcast in the other room). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dblue Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Here's an interesting article analyzing the performance of the PS3 vs. XBOX 360. For those expecting tons more power out of the ps3, Major Nelson disagrees: http://www.majornelson.com/2005/05/20/xbox-360-vs-ps3-part-1-of-4/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonrpayne Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 I don't care which one has the most performance really, I'll always be able to upgrade my PC to beat the snot out of a console. I've always gone with Sony due to the game franchises: gran tourismo, tekken, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dblue Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I agree that PC is usually the place to go for performance, but with the architecture of the new consoles, the consoles will be besting even High End PC's for a few years to come. The architecture is so much more tuned toward games, and you don't have to worry about an OS getting in your way. I used to PC game quite a bit, but got tired of it becoming a money pit. Console titles improve with leaps and bounds over the life of the console, because developers can actually learn the hardware and optimize for it, unlike PC which is constantly changing..hence the ridiculous system requirements for games like Half Life 2 and Doom 3. The developers have to develop for the least common denominator with PC, so those $600 graphics cards never even come close to being truly utilized. It is true though, that toward the end of a console's lifespan, PC's are ahead in terms of graphics. This is the advantage PC's have, of being upgradable. And yes, Sony does have some good franchises. I'll be forced to buy one when they release the God of War sequel...what a great game. And the GT games are great if you have a wheel. Lots of fun. Hopefully they get the online thing right this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dblue Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 BTW, damon, are you still homebrewing? I've been doing it for a few years, but recently got into all grain brews. Been cranking out some tasty stuff. Most recently kegged a California Commons style (like anchor steam). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARPRINCE Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Anyone actually have one of these? How is it? Just curious! I got one and I really like it a lot. I only use it for games so I don't stream MP3's or watch DVDs on it. I play Call of Duty 2, 720P to my HDTV and it looks great. I love the online multiplayer games too. Some unit have been having problems, hang-ups, heating up, etc. but I have never had the problem...so far. The unit and especially the power supply is really heavy compared to a PS2. Weight comparison is to like a big notebook (Dell XPS M170). Wireless controller design is superb and doesn't feel cheap. Overall, great unit IMO. Only thing I can say bad about this unit is THE DRIVE IS SO NOISY when playing a game!!!! Geezzeee, the loud "whirring" sound is starting to annoy me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dblue Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Yeah, the drive is LOUD. I was pretty annoyed by that too. I usually just crank up the Klipsch! hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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