Question on my setup (speakers, quality) and needed accessories

[thecoffeeguy]

Hello everyone!

Just had a quick question concerning a recent purchase for my new home.

Part of the options during the buying process was a home theatre system, which I bought. It included:

(1)RC-8 Subwoofer

(1)RC-10 Center Channel

(4)RC2650 C, ceiling installed speakers

This is from the reference series.

I'm pretty new to the A/V world here and wanted to get some feedback on these particular speakers.

I'm assuming they are pretty good? I know Klipsch is a good brand.

How is the clarity?

How is the surround sound ability? Is it realy good?

What about a good receiver to power this setup? Any recommendations?

I have not been able to test the setup yet (still moving in), but I am dying to.

I appreciate the feedback.

I look forward to hearing responses.

thecoffeeguy

[travisc]

welcome to the forum your in for it now

great speakers great people and great advice.

love the handle too.....I'm good for four or five cups a day

[thecoffeeguy]

welcome to the forum your in for it now

great speakers great people and great advice.

love the handle too.....I'm good for four or five cups a day

Thanks. I'm pretty excited to be here and incredibly excited to test out my new system.

Ya, i'm good for about 4-5 cups myself and if I have a long night, a good pot to go.

thecoffeeguy

EDIT: Before I forget, anyone have recommendations on a receiver for this setup? Much appreciated.

[travisc]

I would look at a Denon, but the skies the limit what are you thinking of spending?

[thecoffeeguy]

I would look at a Denon, but the skies the limit what are you thinking of spending?

Spending...well, here is what im looking for (which should dictate my limit)

1.) Awesome surround sound, with clarity and crispness.

2.) Nice bass (not overwhelming, but just right.)

I'm also in the market for a new TV, so that might cut into my budget.

Under 1K is preferable.

BTW, any feedback on these speakers? I'm curious if anyone has comments on them.

Thanks,

thecoffeeguy

[Joe Shmoe]

You should be able to find a Denon 3805 for around $800..... that should do nicely!

[DrWho]

Ya, big fan of the 3805 here too...

If you're looking to save some more money you might check out the 1906 too.

[thecoffeeguy]

Thanks for your help and recommendations. I appreciate it.

Also, i've been doing some research on my speakers. They appear to be

pretty good. Anyone know of them personally? Or just the reputation of

Klipsch making good speakers? (I guess im curious to see what I am

going to get.)

Also, as im catching up here to the terms and what is needed, how much

power should I need? I looked at my speakers spec page and they vary.

For instance, the sub can have 125 Watts continous power.

The ceiling and center can push 75-85 (i believe).

With that, I know a good receiver is very important for a system and Denon is known to make good ones.

Any further suggestions or recommendations?

Thanks,

thecoffeeguy

[thecoffeeguy]

Ya, big fan of the 3805 here too...

If you're looking to save some more money you might check out the 1906 too.

hey DrWho,

I've been reading up on the Denon 3805 and 1906.

if you don't mind me asking, when buying a receiver, what are things you are looking for?

I was doing some reading and to be honest, im lost. :-)

For instance, I was just looking at Denon's site, checking out the back

of the 3805 and 1906 and saw all the inputs and was like "WOW!"

What should I look for? Power wise? Option wise? Options on the back?

Its' overwhelming, but its cool!

What are other good brands to look at, besides Denon?

Thanks!

[travisc]

I am going to let the good doctor answer your questions because he is the man!! and knows way more than me. Right now the search function is not working but when it is the klipsch forum has a treasure trove of archived info that will be invaluable to you. unfortunately it will be a month or so before it is working again.

[DrWho]

You need to figure out which features you need...if you do the product

comparison thing they list all of them. If you don't know what they do,

you will find a very good description in the user's manual. Tedious

work I know, but it's the best way to learn.

Other recievers to look at would be Harmon Kardon and Yamaha. I'm

probably forgetting a few, but these three (these two and denon) are my

favorite with klipsch.

[thecoffeeguy]

You need to figure out which features you need...if you do the product

comparison thing they list all of them. If you don't know what they do,

you will find a very good description in the user's manual. Tedious

work I know, but it's the best way to learn.

Other recievers to look at would be Harmon Kardon and Yamaha. I'm

probably forgetting a few, but these three (these two and denon) are my

favorite with klipsch.

Got it.

if I might ask one question that I am unsure of, what type of power requirements should I be looking for?

I've compared a few Receivers and I am not sure what type of power I should be pushing through each channel.

If my ceiling speakers and center channel can handle 85 watts and my

sub can handle 125 (all continuous), what should I be looking for?

[travisc]

your sub has its own amp built in. is this the sub your talking about?

125watt Denon is more than enough.

My only beef with Denon is that there owners manuals can be difficult

another option would be a used yamaha5760

very easy auto setup and most of the bells and whistles

this thing sold new for around $600 a year ago.

a nice feature it has is preouts so that if and when you want to use bigger/better amps you can still use the yamaha as a preamp/processor

[thecoffeeguy]

your sub has its own amp built in. is this the sub your talking about?

125watt Denon is more than enough.

My only beef with Denon is that there owners manuals can be difficult

Yep. That is my speaker.

100watts should be plenty as well?

Good to know

another option would be a used yamaha5760

very easy auto setup and most of the bells and whistles

this thing sold new for around $600 a year ago.

a

nice feature it has is preouts so that if and when you want to use

bigger/better amps you can still use the yamaha as a

preamp/processor

Interesting.

Do the Denon's have the same ability withe preouts? Or is it only for yamaha.

Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

thecoffeeguy

[travisc]

some do some dont. some yamahas do some dont depends on the model. If your anything like me you are at the beginning of something that will become a hobby/obsession. things will change so learning things like preouts and specs will give the knowledge to make wise decisions. Its unforunate that the archives of this forum cannot be accesed right now. I have learned alot here in the last year.

I think you could do well with that yamaha as a starting point. If you wanted to go new the current model is the 5860, few more options but not much. I still think the Denon is really worth taking a look at, but I am more familiar with the Yamaha's

what are the dimensions of your room?

are the inwall speakers already installed?

[atomicskiier01]

Check my sig and see that I am the owner of a Yamaha 5760 which was

purchased for about half off when my buddy worked at BB. I have

the upgrade bug, but not enough to shell out the cash right now.

This reciever is great, especially for a starter, and like has already

been mentioned it has the pre-outs, so when you are ready for an amp,

that's all you will need. The YPAO setup is really simple,

however I found that I needed to turn up my the gain on my center

channel quite a bit to match the mains, and then turn up the surrounds

a little bit. I did not use a SPL meter, yet, but the dialogue

sounded MUCH quieter out of the center compared to the music, etc...

coming out of my mains. One thing to consider with the Yamaha is

the lack of an HDMI input, if you plan on using your receiver for all

of your switching. HDMI is the future of HD content and it looks

like component is going away. I use the Harmony 880 remote and

bypass the receiver (all of my video inputs except the on screen

display for the receiver go directly to the TV). It would

normally be a pain switching all of the inputs to get the correct

set-up, but the Harmony does it all with the push of one button.

For example, I hit my "Watch DVD" button on the harmony, and it sends a

singal to the TV to change inputs, the Receiver to change the sound

output, and the DVD player to turn on and hit "play". It's a

great tool and worth every penny. The Harmony 520 is a similar

remote with less options that can be found at Wal-Mart for about $100.

[Cal Blacksmith]

Yamaha basicly has 2 product lines, the HTR series and the RX-V series. They are basicly the same units with different face plates and ratings. The HTR series are aimed to sell in stores like Best Buy, where the compitition is "consumer" level. The RX-V series are sold in higher end stores like Tweaters, The Good Guys (now defunct). If the price is the same between the HTR and the RX-V, they are the same unit. They are both made in the same factory with the same parts on the same assembly line.

A good starting point is the RX-V 757. It is the updated version of the RX-V 750. The main difference is that the newer unit has XM (or is it Serius?) built in. The units are rated at 100 wpc x 7. They have pre-outs, 2 zones and YAPO (the Yamaha version of auto setup for your room) It should be a very good unit for you and retail on it is in the ball park of $600

[thecoffeeguy]

Thanks guys. I really appreciate it.

Looks like I still need to do some research here. I don't think I can

go wrong with either a Yamaha or a Denon. That safe to say?

Also, this Harmony remote sounds slick. I'll check it out.

I would use this remote with my A/V receiver, DVD, VCR, cable and maybe a XBOX (if possible)

Lastly, i have a A/V 101 question:

If my ceiling speakers can support 85watts max continuous power, as

well as my center channel, and I have a receiver that will push

100watts per channel, how does that work? Will it damage my speakers?

Possibly blow them out? Does it push 100Watts all the time through the

speaker?

I was not sure how this worked and wanted to ask what I should be looking for, as far as power on the receiver per channel.

Great stuff. Much appreciated.

thecoffeeguy

[atomicskiier01]

The remote is made by Logitech (they bought out Harmony Remote)

and will control pretty much everything, including your Xbox. You

can take the "test drive" to see how the set-up process works. I

got my for under on eBay for a fair amount under MSRP.

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/detailsharmony/US/EN,CRID=2084,CONTENTID=9933

[Colin]

In your profile, please specify your system: # of channels now and planned, amps, subs, room size, acoustic treatments, EQ, music source (iPod, PC, DVD, etc.), your age, music and movie preferences, percent of movie versus music listening, preferred volume level, musical instrument experience, must have features, and what kind of coffee you like to drink with movies, music and sex, etc!

That way, the thoughtful posters here can provide answers tailored to your situation, not just simply spout off their preferences for their own situation. []