BigBusa Posted October 30, 2001 Share Posted October 30, 2001 I just bought these babies this AM for $400. Any info about these speakers you could give me would be greatly appreciated! I'd really like to know when they were made. http://members.aol.com/be421/klip1.jpg The tag has a copyright date of 1895 in the lower left hand corner. Is this an indication of the speakers manufacture date? Did Klipsch stop putting "heresy" on the tags after a certain year? Thanks guys -Don ------------------ My system thus far: 1980 Cornwalls (mains) 19?? Heresy II's (rears) 2001 KLF-C7 (center) 2001 KSW15 (Subwoofer) Onkyo TX-DS787 (reciever) Kenwood DV402 (DVD) Sony KV 27V55 (9 year old 27" TV) This message has been edited by BigBusa on 10-30-2001 at 04:53 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted October 30, 2001 Share Posted October 30, 2001 Assuming the pictures that follow the one you posted the link to are of your speakers, you apparently have Heresy IIs. Klipsch tech support ought to be able to fill in the date. FWIW, if I remember correctly, the early Heresy IIs, 1986 or so, with the round connector plate, said Heresy II on the label. I think I have seen later Heresy IIs, with the rectangular connector plate, where the model was not on the label, but on the connector plate. Enjoy your new toys! Let us know how they sound with your other gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted October 30, 2001 Share Posted October 30, 2001 Looks like you have Heresy II's made in 1990. Wes ------------------ "KLIPSCH IS MUSIC"f> This message has been edited by ShapeShifter on 10-30-2001 at 07:05 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted October 30, 2001 Share Posted October 30, 2001 BigBusa, What's a bit confusing to me is that Copyright Dates usually preceed date of manufacturer. So here's the date scheme that Matt Whatley posted some time ago. Take a look at it and see if makes more sense to you in this case than it does to me. 1962-1983 ##letter#### (20Y1234) 1984-1989(?) YY WW #### (89281234) 1990-1997(?) DOY Y2Y1 #### (135791234) 1998-2000 YY WW #### (00281234) Regardless, you've got a great buy. Wes ------------------ "KLIPSCH IS MUSIC"f> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBusa Posted October 30, 2001 Author Share Posted October 30, 2001 Thanks guys ...Yeah, That's weird about the 1985 date on the tag. The speakers do have rectangular connector plates and malcom, you're right they do say heresy there instead of on the tag. http://members.aol.com/be421/klip2.jpg I like em so far. ------------------ My system thus far: 1980 Cornwalls (mains) 19?? Heresy II's (rears) 2001 KLF-C7 (center) 2001 KSW15 (Subwoofer) Onkyo TX-DS787 (reciever) Kenwood DV402 (DVD) Sony KV 27V55 (9 year old 27" TV) This message has been edited by BigBusa on 10-30-2001 at 09:13 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted October 31, 2001 Share Posted October 31, 2001 Congrats Don, Now you should enjoy the all around Klipsch sound.Way to go Don TheEAR(s) Now theears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted October 31, 2001 Share Posted October 31, 2001 That last photo clears up everything. Copyright 1985! You definately have 1990 Heresy II's. The model designation was placed on the outside of network inserts beginning the later part of the 80's, about the time of change over from Heresy I's to II's. I have a pair of 1984 Walnut Lacquer Heresy I's and they have the model designation on the tag. Great find & excellent price. Wes ------------------ "KLIPSCH IS MUSIC"f> This message has been edited by ShapeShifter on 10-31-2001 at 06:09 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBusa Posted October 31, 2001 Author Share Posted October 31, 2001 Wow, Thanks. It's always a good feeling to know I got a decent speaker at a good price. I played with them some today. Switching back and forth between my 1980 cornwalls and the 1990 heresys. There is a big difference. The cornwalls sound more open, less constricted and downright louder at the same volume setting. The heresys are still damn fine sounding. The bass is pretty good for a speaker of this size. It's not going to rattle my innards like the mighty cornwalls but they will piss off the neighbors in a hurry! If I didn't have the cornwalls first I could be very happy with these as my mains and some quintets or something similar as my rears. ------------------ My system thus far: 1980 Cornwalls (mains) 19?? Heresy II's (rears) 2001 KLF-C7 (center) 2001 KSW15 (Subwoofer) Onkyo TX-DS787 (reciever) Kenwood DV402 (DVD) Sony KV 27V55 (9 year old 27" TV) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted October 31, 2001 Share Posted October 31, 2001 A portion of the difference you hear is the tembre match between the Cornwall I's and Heresy II's. Heresy I's would provide a better match. But I wouldn't rush to get rid of them, perhaps in the future you might make another great find on Heresy I's. Then you'll have many options as to what to do with the II's. If you're having fun and enjoying them, that's the added plus to ownership. Enjoy, Wes ------------------ "KLIPSCH IS MUSIC"f> This message has been edited by ShapeShifter on 10-31-2001 at 09:41 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBusa Posted November 1, 2001 Author Share Posted November 1, 2001 So Wes ...If the connector plate has a date on it of 1986 and the paper tag on the back of the speaker has a copyright date of 1985 ...my speakers are what year again? 1990? -Don ------------------ My system thus far: 1980 Cornwalls (mains) 19?? Heresy II's (rears) 2001 KLF-C7 (center) 2001 KSW15 (Subwoofer) Onkyo TX-DS787 (reciever) Kenwood DV402 (DVD) Sony KV 27V55 (9 year old 27" TV) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted November 1, 2001 Share Posted November 1, 2001 Don, The significance of the dates you mention is that they provide a reference point that your speakers were made after those dates. Applying the coding sequence that Matt identified, they should be 1990. Your Part Number: 09 0003 3112 Digit Position - 12 3456 78910 1984-1989(?) YY WW #### (89281234) Digit Position - 12 34 5678 1990-1997(?) DOY Y2Y1 #### (135791234) Digit Position - 123 4 5 6789 The question marks that follow the dates above serve to indicate that there are some deviations as to how the sequence is interpreted for some assigned part numbers. So as you can see you don't have 84-89's because first two digits are "09 ". Your 4th/5th positions are 00, so I doubted that they were year 2000 models, not with the older tag dates. But your 1st/2nd positions are reversed as in the Y2Y1 positions for 1990-1997 models. So I surmised that they assigned your part numbers arranged in the 1984-1989 scheme with the dates reversed in the 1st/2nd position as done for the 1990-97 sequence. Thus 09="90" for 1990 year production. Now if you're thoroughly confused, please take two aspirins and enjoy those Heresy II's. Wes ------------------ "KLIPSCH IS MUSIC"f> This message has been edited by ShapeShifter on 11-01-2001 at 01:30 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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