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OK, thanks! We'll definitely go there one night. Will probably go down to Fisherman's Wharf one night as well.

Mike

Well, if you MUST go to Fisherman's Warf, there is really only one place to eat that's worth a damn and and still has that Warf ambiance:

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http://www.scomas.com/

LOL... ok, it appears as though you are not big on that idea and sounds as though there are better alternatives. What else would you recommend? We have 2 other nights to fill. [:D]

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North Beach is a HULLVALOT of fun and no trip to SF would be complete without a wander through City Lights books and cocktails at "Specs" (on of my college haunts in the 70's that's still going strong) or Tosca. Plus, THE greatest jazz club I have ever known was here--the late GREAT Keystone Korner where I heard Dexter Gordon, Art Blakey, Max Roach, Art Pepper, Bill Evans, Johnny Griffin, Joe Henderson, Horace Silver, Bobby Hutcherson, Freddie Hubbard and MANY MANY others back in the 70's and early '80s.

The best restaurant in North Beach and one of the THE very best Italian restaurtants in San Francisco is:

Rose Pistola

http://www.rosepistolasf.com/

CITY LIGHTS:

http://www.citylights.com/

SPECS:

http://www.bestofsanfrancisco.net/specs.htm

TOSCA:

http://www.sftravel.com/food/tosca.html

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My favorite "old school" SF Restaurant. Great bread, stiff drinks, and the best Petrale Sole (local fish) and Cioppino in the whole wide world. Sit at the counter and sink it all in!

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2005/09/28/FDGFEES3F81.DTL

If they have sand dabs they are even better than the petrale. But you cant go wrong either way.

Josh

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My favorite "old school" SF Restaurant. Great bread, stiff drinks, and the best Petrale Sole (local fish) and Cioppino in the whole wide world. Sit at the counter and sink it all in!

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2005/09/28/FDGFEES3F81.DTL

If they have sand dabs they are even better than the petrale. But you cant go wrong either way.

Josh

Yeah. And the sauteed spinich with garlic is amazing. And there's the ever-perfect Lobster-Crab Thermidor in casserole too. Oh, hell--EVERYTHING is good at Tadich!

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North Beach is a HULLVALOT of fun and no trip to SF would be complete without a wander through City Lights books and cocktails at "Specs" (on of my college haunts in the 70's that's still going strong) or Tosca. Plus, THE greatest jazz club I have ever known was here--the late GREAT Keystone Korner where I heard Dexter Gordon, Art Blakey, Max Roach, Art Pepper, Bill Evans, Johnny Griffin, Joe Henderson, Horace Silver, Bobby Hutcherson, Freddie Hubbard and MANY MANY others back in the 70's and early '80s.

The best restaurant in North Beach and one of the THE very best Italian restaurtants in San Francisco is:

Rose Pistola

http://www.rosepistolasf.com/

CITY LIGHTS:

http://www.citylights.com/

SPECS:

http://www.bestofsanfrancisco.net/specs.htm

TOSCA:

http://www.sftravel.com/food/tosca.html

Its amazing to think of all the great music that I heard at the Keystone. Took it for granted! I used to hang at a cafe down the street "Cafe Italia" which sadly is now a crappy Chinese restaurant. In the old days you may as well have been sitting in Rome.

Cannot agree that Rose Pistola is the best Italian restaurant. Its a nice place but certainly not the best IMO of course. My office is within walking distance and I rarely if ever choose to go there. I prefer the North Beach Restaurant for classic Italian fare and some of the more neighborhood (US Restaurant, Cafe Sport) spots for family style Italian.

josh

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I too generally prefer the heartier fare at US Restaurant (great Calimari!) and the like, but as far as quality and freshness of the fare, Rose Pistola is hard to beat. It's a bit on the "foodie" side for me and there IS a bit of pretense, but the fried chick peas are so freaking good I DREAM about time from time to time. And the dessert chef is a genius.

North Beach Restaurant is great too.

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Ahhh... this is great, I could talk food all day!

As far as Italian, I love the classic Italian places (red/white tables, dimly lit, good house Chianti, etc), so if you can recommend a place like that it would be appreciated.

I think we will do Tadich's, an Italian place and a seafood place down on the water (maybe the place you recommended in Fisherman's Wharf).

Mike

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Ahhh... this is great, I could talk food all day!

As far as Italian, I love the classic Italian places (red/white tables, dimly lit, good house Chianti, etc), so if you can recommend a place like that it would be appreciated.

Well, that 'aint the Rose Pistola!!! Go with Josh's fave-- North Beach Restaurant: It's a great old-school Italian restaurant!! A bit fancier that the red-checkerd table cloth and candle in the Chianti bottle places, but not at all stuffy . . .

http://www.northbeachrestaurant.com/

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And then walk up to Tosca for after dinner drinks!

If you have your heart set on the bare bones approach, then go for "US Restaurant" on Columbus in North Beach.

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Ahhh... this is great, I could talk food all day!

As far as Italian, I love the classic Italian places (red/white tables, dimly lit, good house Chianti, etc), so if you can recommend a place like that it would be appreciated.

Well, that 'aint the Rose Pistola!!! Go with Josh's fave-- North Beach Restaurant: It's a great old-school Italian restaurant!! A bit fancier that the red-checkerd table cloth and candle in the Chianti bottle places, but not at all stuffy . . .

http://www.northbeachrestaurant.com/

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And then walk up to Tosca for after dinner drinks!

If you have your heart set on the bare bones approach, then go for "US Restaurant" on Columbus in North Beach.

Ditto on Allans recco. He is right about Rose Pistola it is a bit foodie and I say that in a good way. North Beach is a classic italian place. Good Calamari as well! Also plan on going to Tosca for an after dinner libation. A real classic SF spot. And if you are here for a few days you should also take Allans other choice Tadich Grill. If you like old school you will love it. Great fun and a real classic.

Josh

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Thanks so much, guys! I think we're set on the food! I wish I was staying out there for a few more days, but unfortunately it's a business trip.

Josh, I wish I had the chance to hear your system! It is somewhat similar to mine, and I would love to hear your TT. Maybe another time...

Mike

Edit: Just wanted to point out that I love good Calamari! I am going to be jonesing for that now until I have it. [:D]

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Allan,

How is the C22 treating you?

Craig

It is FANTASTIC in every way I can think of!!

THANK YOU!

I'm home alone, so it seems like a good time to go spin ASCENSION! And play it LOUD!

JOHN COLTRANE "Ascension" IMPULSE 1st Press MONO LP!

I'm just glad the gamble turned out for the best. I know how much that preamp means to you. I thought it sounded excellent.

Craig

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Thanks so much, guys! I think we're set on the food! I wish I was staying out there for a few more days, but unfortunately it's a business trip.

Josh, I wish I had the chance to hear your system! It is somewhat similar to mine, and I would love to hear your TT. Maybe another time...

Mike

Edit: Just wanted to point out that I love good Calamari! I am going to be jonesing for that now until I have it. [:D]

If it works out I would happy to have you hear the system. I live in the East Bay which appears to be off your travel pattern of south to north to south to north.

When are you going to be here ( im sure its here in the thread but I am lazy) ?

Josh

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I will basically be there the 23rd - 25th, and have all of those evenings free. By day I will be in SF, but I am staying at the Sofitel next to Oracle Headquarters in Redwood Shores. Let me know how far that is from you.

Mike

Bad week. I wil be in the desert for a conference that week. I normally travel a bit but this month has ben the pits. St Louis yesterday, Chicago next week and Palm Desert the week of the 23rd.

Redwood City is BTW a fair bit from where I live. i am in a town near Berkeley which is much closer to SF than Redwood city. If you get to the area again lets try and hook up.

Josh

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