PoppaPump Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Hi there, well I'm new here and am still learning the basics, but just need a few pointers on the best set of speakers to go with my new receiver. I just bought the Denon AVR-2807 and I believe its rated 110Watts per channel. I'm really interested in the Klipsch F-3 series but I dont know if they would put too much strain on my receiver since they are rated 150W. Should the F-3s be alright with the receiver I have? I suppose I could always go with the F-2s if it might mess something up down the road. Any tips would be greatly appreciated Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastlane Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 As efficient as Klipsch speakers are, you don't need a lot of power to sound good. F3's would be fine, and they would give you the option to upgrade to more power later if desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuzzzer Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Wattage ratings need to be taken with a grain of salt. The F-3 speakers are incredibly efficient, and if you were truly driving 110 watts into each of them, you'd be putting out about 121 decibels which is louder than virtually anyone is comfortable listening to. I've listened to the F-3 at Best Buy, albeit not in exactly ideal conditions, and they sounded very good even at loud levels. I'm not sure that receiver was hooked up to them, but Denon is a brand that usually matches up well with Klipsch speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsched with Yamahas Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 x2.....even w/o my peripherals (EQ, expanders, etc.), I only push my 120W Yamaha at 50-70% of full volume w/flat signal, and that is reaching the upper limits of the Cornwalls capabilities based on my setup. Those Heritage series products are unbelievable, and unlike ANY HE speaker that I've ever witnessed. VERY EFFICIENT! Not sure about the F's, but I would think they are just as efficient and responsive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoppaPump Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share Posted December 27, 2006 Thanks guys, that definitely helps with my decision. Cnet.com rated the Denon 2807 the best receiver next to the 4306, so hopefully the combination with the Klipschs schould be awesome =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Yikes, the wattage rating of a speaker does not correlate to howmuch power it draws from the reciever. Nor does the receiver ratingcorrelate to how much power it puts out. Kinda like the horsepowerrating for a car...just cuz the engine is rated at 500 HP doesn't meanyou drive with the gas pedal to the floor all the time. Thesensitivity of the F3 is 97dB @ 1 watt / 1 meter. In other words, whenthe receiver is putting out 1 watt of power, the speaker is going to be97dB when measured at a distance of 1 meter. Everytime you double thewattage to the speaker, its output will increase by 3dB. So 2W = 100dB,4W = 103dB, 8W = 106dB,........., 128W = 118dB. Just to give youan idea of how loud everything is, most conversations are in the 60dBrange and loud rock concerts are in the 100dB range. Extremely loudrock concerts are going to be around 110dB. Chances are you're going toend up watching your movies in the 80dB range, which means you're goingto be using about 1/32 of a watt! (Yikes). Peaks will probably get inthe 110dB range (for extremely short periods of time - likeexplosions), but you'll still only be drawing about 20W per channel.The reason for the extra headroom is to keep the distortion low. TheF2's on the other hand have a sensitivity closer to 95dB - which meansthey're going to need almost twice the power to achieve the same SPL.So where the F3 is 118dB with 128W, the F2 will be 118dB with 256W(that's quite a bit of difference). And just for the sake of analogy(and pointing out one more awesome detail concerning Klipsch), an 80dBsensitive speaker is going to need about 8000W to achieve 118dB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 The F3's ROCK, go get em! They are a great fit to that amplifier. Doc is correct (if a bit verbose) [:#] Klipsch speakers are very efficient, and that receiver coupled to the F3's will fill your room with glorious sound. Welcome to the Madness! Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbuckster Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Buy Heritage and get it over with............................You'll buy the 3's and in a year be wondering if you should have bought Heritage, So buy them now, and in a year think about Khorns..............................EH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!.................It's just begun..................Welcome to the Forum.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoppaPump Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share Posted December 27, 2006 Haha, you guys are awesome Well, I work at BestBuy and can get the Klipschs for practically nothing. Thanks again for all the help. Does anyone know if the same speakers are used when listening to a CD as they would be if watching a movie? I was told that the center channel pretty much just output the vocals and the front and back pairs ouput respectively. Hmm, perhaps I'm asking the wrong question haha im not sure. It just seemed like in BestBuy that the center channel was a lot louder than others. Im assuming a proper setup in the receiver will balance all of that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 can get the Klipschs for practically nothing. then .... get 2 pr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Robin Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 I agree with the Duke why buy 1 set when you can get 2 set's; go for it. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbuckster Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 What's with the PoppaPump????????..................Scott Steiner fan????????..............Buy 2 pairs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 can get the Klipschs for practically nothing. then .... get 2 pr Duke, call me man, yer double-secret phone line has been SWITCHED OFF! Da guyz wuz wondering about yas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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