BigBusa Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 Damn if I didn't go over there today because I'm in the hunt for a 5.1 system for my computer. I figured the poormedia, I mean promedia products would be relatively high quality like my vintage klipsch speakers are. Boy, was I wrong! Now I see why recent day Klipsch is basically scoffed at and hardly ever considered "worthy" in the high quality speaker world. You wonder why the audiophile magazines don't bother with Klipsch? Go read some of the posts from the poor saps who purchased the poormedia, I mean promedia systems. Klipsch is ducking and weaving instead of facing the issues head on. Heck a couple people got actual burns on their skin from the subs overheating! One almost burned the guys home down! Man, the days of the Cornwall are over. Paul must be rolling in his grave. ------------------ My system thus far: 1980 Cornwalls (mains) 1990 Heresy II's (rears) 2001 KLF-C7 (center) 2001 KSW15 (Subwoofer) SONY STD-D611 (reciever)Kenwood DV402 (DVD) Sony KV 27V55 (9 year old 27" TV still kickin') This message has been edited by BigBusa on 12-03-2001 at 05:48 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 quote: Now I see why recent day Klipsch is basically scoffed at and hardly ever considered "worthy" in the high quality speaker world. You wonder why the audiophile magazines don't bother with Klipsch? Go read some of the posts from the poor saps who purchased the poormedia, I mean promedia systems. Klipsch is ducking and weaving instead of facing the issues head on. Heck a couple people got actual burns on their skin from the subs overheating! One almost burned the guys home down!Man, the days of the Cornwall are over. Paul must be rolling in his grave. And BigBusa's motto is........ drum roll please... "IGNORANCE IS BLISS" You are so ignorant to the truth! Klipsch is VERY well regarded in the Home Theater world. There have not been NEARLY as many failures of PM speakers than successes. Like 10:10,000. I was at the Bryan/College Station General Hospital about a month ago and read from two DIFFERENT magazines RAVING reviews of Klipsch HT equiptment. EVERY review of the PM 5.1, 4.1, 2.1, and v2.400's have too been rave reviews. Find some reviews of PM speakers from a reputable reviewer ( a review of PM, not a comparision to another speaker system eg. the Siccorro X-Fires) and then you can start to degrade the Klipsch PM Line of speakers. I don't know what to say about you. What PM speakers have you owned? I have owned EVERY SINGLE MODEL and have NEVER had a problem. I have ordered TWO sets of 5.1's, own the Synergy 6 system and the Quintets. NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH ANY KLIPSCH PRODUCT! ------------------ -justin I am an amateur, if it is professional; ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665 Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 big-b, i think PWK is still alive & well. i did a quick search to make sure & found this lil bio on him from NMSU. http://www.ece.nmsu.edu/klipsch/klipsch.html oh & i have a lil aura 2.1 sys for my computer. got it for about $80 on net. ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 once again, a fine example on how you negleted tp research your "facts" before stating them. this guy is very alive... LoL! ------------------ -justin I am an amateur, if it is professional; ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665 Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 justin, that looks like a TX Longhorns lid here he is in 2001. gosh the guy looks great for 97-98 yrs old. go pwk! http://www.smr-home-theatre.org/ces2001/people/image_033.shtml ------------------ My Home Systems Page This message has been edited by boa12 on 12-03-2001 at 06:18 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake2 Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 "The rumours of my demise have been greatly exaggerated!" (Stolen from Mark Twain) Doug ------------------ My System Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 what's next? pics of PWK w/ bare feet? ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 i think this is the firs ttime we have met boa I am justin, mostly from the ProMedia forum but if I have any info to share here, i do I envy your knowlege (as well as Ray's) in the science of audio... will you be my mentor? LoL! boa's pic well, not bare-foot but pretty close ------------------ -justin I am an amateur, if it is professional; ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665 Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 just found more proof he is alive... quote: Paul enjoys excellent health and spends several days each week working in the engineering lab on further improvements in horn and driver technology. ------------------ -justin I am an amateur, if it is professional; ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665 Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 well justin, howdy do! great job w/ the pics & research! ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 thanks boa! I think we scared BigBusa away that is a pretty cool graphic too. i wish Paul W. Klipsch was my grandfather, the stories he could tell! Oh, and hte obvious advantage over everyone else in the neighborhood with my HT! LoL! ------------------ -justin I am an amateur, if it is professional; ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665 Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBusa Posted December 3, 2001 Author Share Posted December 3, 2001 If he were dead he'd be rolling in his grave. That better? My post wasn't about whether or not he was alive or dead. I assumed he was dead because of the rapid demise of the company. That he is alive and condones this ruins the Klipsch experience even more for me. Does he not see what he spent his whole life creating (quality products and great reputation) is being ruined? ------------------ My system thus far: 1980 Cornwalls (mains) 1990 Heresy II's (rears) 2001 KLF-C7 (center) 2001 KSW15 (Subwoofer) SONY STD-D611 (reciever)Kenwood DV402 (DVD) Sony KV 27V55 (9 year old 27" TV still kickin') :eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 I too am shocked at what seems to be a lot of complaints from the promedia section, but since I have no relevant numbers upon which to judge the percentage of failures, amount of product sold, age and experience of posters and their expectations of quality, I have no way of knowing hoe statistically valid the number and severity of their complaints actually are. I am surprised at the cost of the crap they sell these days. Hard to believe that the junk that was cheap a decade ago is dear and quality today. No wonder some people think hi-fi is losing its market, the kids today don't get to hear musically sounding systems for reasonable cost. For example, the Dynaco ST70s tube amps that I bought for $40 over a decade ago would cost me over $400 for a pair today without any improvement to their caps or tubes ... ------------------ Cornwalls & Klipsch subs; leather couch & feet up; lights out & tubes glowing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 You are wrong yet again. Please give PROOF of the quote: rapid demise of the company Klipsch? I have not seen any. Paul W Klipsch does not own the company, he is not even the president. He sold it to Fred Klipsch and his wife. CEO Fred Klipsch was awarded Entrepreneur Of The Year Award. your company CAN NOT BE FAILING and you get that award. YOU ARE SO VERY WRONG More proof that the company is thriving is the building of a state of the art massive distribution center. quote: Klipsch to Build New 46,000 Sq. Ft. Distribution Center and Renovate Manufacturing Plant in Hope, Ark.; 80 New Jobs Created........Klipsch Breaks Ground on One of the Midwests Most Advanced Consumer Audio Research Facilities So, what are your sources? What is the proof that Klipsch is going down the drain? YOU MUST BE CRAZY! Klipsch is the exclusive speaker company for Hard Rock Cafe's now quote: Hard Rock Cafe Chooses Klipsch as Preferred Loudspeaker Brand ORLANDO, Fla. (March 8, 2001) A new strategic alliance that places Klipsch loudspeakers in Hard Rock Cafe restaurants and retail locations; Hard Rock Hotel and Casino "high roller" suites and Hard Rock live performance stages and other venues ... , they were i believe used in the Olympics, quote: Five months passed six, then seven. Nearly 23 months have gone by since its introduction, and the RF-3 passive floorstanding loudspeaker has taken the top spot more often than any other model in the U.S specialty market......According to Mark Kauffman, senior product manager, the Reference Series RF-3 has prompted consumers and industry insiders to listen to Klipsch with a fresh perspective. quote: Klipsch ProMedia 4.1 Personal Audio System Selected As 2001 PC World World Class Award Winner in the Best PC Speaker System Category quote: David P. Kelley Chosen to Lead Worldwide Sales Force for Klipsch; Charged with Maintaining Number One Position Note that he is MAINTAINGING THE #1 POSITION! what is your proof? i got this all in about 4 minutes ------------------ -justin I am an amateur, if it is professional; ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665 Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagood Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 Great stuff Justin - where do you get all of this ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 None other than the Klipsch News Section I am still waiting BigBusa. What is YOUR proof? ------------------ -justin I am an amateur, if it is professional; ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665 Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 big-b, I hope u don't think I was dissing u. i was really afraid PWK had passed on. just glad he didn't. justin, the graphics along w/ your story tellin are most effective. Klipsch take a look at justin for your MIS dept. his loyalty & tech expertise are without question. justin just keep up your studies. ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 Wow Boa, your comments mean a lot to me. Thanks. I can only dream of a job at Klipsch. I have researched the benifits... looking good I even wrote a like 40 page (+-5 pages ) manual concerning all of the ProMedia Speakers, at the end it had an extensive troubleshooting section, it was an adition 10 pages. I put it into a PDF file for easy viewing, only to have my SONY Vaio crap out on me as i was distributing it (well tyring to) on AIM. I just about cried , seriously! Now all I have is the first 8-12 pages. The best benefit of all to me is the quote: After six months service, employees are eligible to purchase products at 40% of retail price. I could have fun with that! Maybe if I go to Harding University in Arkansas I can apply for an intership ------------------ -justin I am an amateur, if it is professional; ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665 Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 I have heard a lot of bad things about the promedias on these boards and others, with many complaints. Recently I got to hear them for the first time at the local high end show. I spent almost 12 hours in the Klipsch rooms with a friend who sells for them regularly. The demo was done just for a laugh as follows: One pair of RF7's were connected to an Accuphase E407 using some seriously expensive cable and an Accuphase CD player as the source. Sitting on top of the RF7's were a pair of Promedia's with the sub at the bottom connected directly to the Accuphase. When people came in we told them the RF7's were playing and no-one questioned it. In fact we were, of course, running the Promedias and no-one could tell until we switched sources. In fact many people called us liars to our faces when we did tell them and went off snooping around the units to "see for themselves". If I recall correctly we sold 150 sets of promedia 2's and 4's over the weekend. On the last day we swapped the signs on the KHorn setup with the promedias (neighbouring rooms) and told people the Khorns were the new ultimate Promedia computer speakers. Few bought it, but one woman was shocked the computer speakers were so large! LOL. Anyway in summary I, for one,m was seriously impressed with the sound - especially for the money. No, I wouldnt swap out my Heresy's for them but I would certainly welcome them on my computer. ------------------ 2 * Heresy 2 (mains) 2 * Homemade horn speakers (rears) Accuphase E211 amp. Tube monoblocks with separate pre-amp (solid state). Marantz CD6000 player Sony NS900 SACD/DVD player Stax Headphones Humax 5400 digital satellite receiver Sharp Video 32" Sony flat screen 16:9 TV Mogami interconnects Silver Synergistic speaker cable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake2 Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 quote: Originally posted by BigBusa: That he is alive and condones this ruins the Klipsch experience even more for me. Does he not see what he spent his whole life creating (quality products and great reputation) is being ruined? Just wanted to mention that it is very possible that PWK does NOT condone anything (and I'm not saying anything being done now is necessarily wrong). After all, he no longer owns the company. We can't infer anything about his thoughts/feelings about the direction of the company simply because it bears his name. I do know he has been engaged for very many years in the development of a new high end system that will blow your doors off. Doug ------------------ My System Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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