Craig6519 Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 I used to have a Klipsch KSW-12 running my LFE and a Klipsch KSW-10 wired in parallel with my rear sorrounds KSP-S6 set to large. I remember that when i set the rears to large there was a lot of BASS back there. Anyway i sold them and upgraded to dual 20-39CS w/samson s700 and WOW what a difference, I have since sold the 20-39's and ordered the 20-39CS+ w/s1000 and can't wait for shipping to begin. I was just wondering if i'd still get the same effect adding another sub to the rears with the SVS runiing up front, I know theres a lot of DVD's out there that have 50hz or less going to the rears. Any opinions? Am i wasting my money? Craig ------------------ Klipsch KLF30 Mains (OAK) Klipsch KLF-C7 Front Center (OAK) Klipsch KLF-C7 Rear Center (Awaiting 6.1) Klipsch KSP-S6 Surrounds Dual SVS 20-39CS+ Sub's (coming soon) Samson S1000 Sub Amp Yamaha DSP-A1 (2)Acurus 200x3 Yamaha MDX-793 Mini disc Yamaha TX-492 Tuner Sony CDP-C701ES 5 disc Player Sony S565D DVD Hitachi MX6080EM Muli-system HI-FI VCR Hitachi 29" T.V. Denon DP-37F Turntable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobCurran Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 Craig, your DSP-A1 has two outputs for dual subs, right? Use one for your new SVSubs and the other output for a ButtKicker . Strap one to the underneath of the couch. I bet its a riot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig6519 Posted January 21, 2002 Author Share Posted January 21, 2002 Yeah that would be cool but i've sold the DSP-A1 (pending) and my couch is a sleeper sofa, and to top that all off don't i need another amp to run the buttkicker? Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig6519 Posted January 22, 2002 Author Share Posted January 22, 2002 Come on guys!! No opinions here? How about the EAR you have a lot of subs, what do you think? Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig6519 Posted January 23, 2002 Author Share Posted January 23, 2002 I remember BobG even told me he had a sub hooked to his center channel, this was back in 1999, but i can't search that far back so i was trying to raise the issue again. Anymore opinions? Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-man Posted January 23, 2002 Share Posted January 23, 2002 Everything I've read (that makes sense to me) tells me that you should have all your bass comming from ONE place (your sub!) Put that sub in the best place in your room, and set all speakers to small. Doing otherwise can possibly induce cancelation effects. I wouldn't waste your time adding rear subs, but the only advantage you might get is more proximal rumble or vibration in your seat - not necessarily louder bass. Likely less bass. T-man ------------------ KG 5.5 (mains) KG 2.2v (center) KLF-C7 (center in storage) KG 1 (rears) KSW-12 (sub) Denon AVR 681/1601 Toshiba SD-3109 DVD Kenwood LVD700 LD Sony CD changer Sony 27" Trinitron Sony PLX I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 Hey Craig,despite what everyone says, if set up correctly it may help.But with your dual SVS's it would probably be a waste of money.Sub bass being none directional,you shouldn't hear bass ques from the rear. That said,I have powered towers with 12" powered subs.Four of 'em.Have a couple Klipsch dedicated LFE powered subs.Adding another soon( no corners,perpendicular to mains,etc.),We're talking bass you can feel(neighbors too).Ran thru Saving Private Ryan,U-571,Mummy,Matrix,etc. last night.Wish you could feel it.Gives nice massage after long days work :^)! Why buy the dual SVS's if there was no advantage? Good luck whatever you decide. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig6519 Posted January 24, 2002 Author Share Posted January 24, 2002 TTK, I'm not saying that SVS aren't rocking my world, i just wanted to tweak that much further if it'll work!! I read an article in widescreen review that talked about dvd's having 50hz and sometimes less being sent to the suround channels. I remember a couple of years ago when i had a ksw-10 hook to my rear surrounds and set them to large the sub really made a difference back there that really surprised me, maybe with the svs subs i won't notice it again, thats why i was asking opinions on the subject. You know how you just sit around trying to think how you can improve things right? Craig ------------------ Klipsch KLF30 Mains (OAK) Klipsch KLF-C7 Front Center (OAK) Klipsch KLF-C7 Rear Center (Awaiting 6.1) Klipsch KSP-S6 Surrounds Dual SVS 20-39CS+ Sub's (coming soon) Samson S1000 Sub Amp Yamaha DSP-A1 (2)Acurus 200x3 Yamaha MDX-793 Mini disc Yamaha TX-492 Tuner Sony CDP-C701ES 5 disc Player Sony S565D DVD Hitachi MX6080EM Muli-system HI-FI VCR Hitachi 29" T.V. Denon DP-37F Turntable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 craig, i have my rear cornwalls set in the pre/pro to 50hz, 12db/oct slope & they do bring up some lower bass from the rear from a lotta HT tracks. strictly for HT i'd give it a try. don't know what u do for music w/ the s6 as surrounds, but u could just listen to the klf & sub for stereo music if u prefer. ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 OK Craig.Hate to encourage people to spend money.But you sound just as sick as myself and most everyone else around here. I have a rear sub and run my S-6's large.I have the rear sub plugged into the wall mounted banana plug wall plate that also feed my S-6's.And I like it. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted January 24, 2002 Share Posted January 24, 2002 i may have jumped the gun a lil bit. craig, i though u already had the svs. course u may wanna see if they do it fine alone for u 1st keith, sorry can't remember. are you powered ksw rear surround or B music surround? i think it's the latter. regardless, hope u don't get any structural damage on HT or music ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig6519 Posted January 25, 2002 Author Share Posted January 25, 2002 Ok, TTK and boa12, Thanks for your comments, i was just looking for tips and suggestions on why this would or wouldn't work. I'm not sure how the s6 would sound with stereo 5.1/7.1 presay because my yamaha has a lot of DSP effects for this which i hate, nothing direct but waiting on a new pre-amp now. Second i have dual 20-39CS with the S700 amp now, do i need more bass NO!! i was just curious if adding a rear sub would add to the effect? I also have pre-ordered 20-39CS+ (dual) with S1000 amp Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted January 25, 2002 Share Posted January 25, 2002 Craig,after listening tests I prefer using my S-6's for music in 7-channel stereo.That is,with MY system.YMMV. I don't go fot the small rear,send the sub bass to the sub,you can't tell where the lows are coming from,crap that others believe. Get seven full range 20hz-20khz speakers,pop in Saving Private Ryan,then come on back and we'll talk some more. Great set-up dude.The 4802 would be hard to beat.As usual,anything I say is simply my opinion. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig6519 Posted January 26, 2002 Author Share Posted January 26, 2002 Ok TTK, do you think that a pair of KSW-10's would do the job well enough? or something more on the lines of a pair of LF-10's? I'm trying to keep them small. Because I'm assuming you don't get a whole lot of bass below 50hz in the rears that a pair of 10's wouldn't have any trouble handling this. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted January 26, 2002 Share Posted January 26, 2002 Well Craig,I'm no expert and have never listened to the KSW's,other than at a dealer showroom,but I never liked the bottom firer's myself.Good luck. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobCurran Posted January 27, 2002 Share Posted January 27, 2002 For that ol' rattle and shake feelin', nothing kicks butt like a buttkicker (hahahahha) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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