sivadselim

how is your cable box connected?

you can only get DD from DD formatted material; ie. dvds how's your player connected, btw, iwillwalk?

i think you should put the cherry one in the middle of the stack

omg, i wanna rub up against it

---------------- On 10/18/2004 10:09:22 AM meuge wrote: However, with the crossover around the rolloff point of my mains producing the best results I figure I might as well run the sub using the other set of preouts, rather than in-line. ---------------- yep. just remember that that sub's crossover knob only controls the low-pass filter point. the high-pass point doesn't vary with the knob. so even though you lowered the sub's crossover to 40Hz, the speakers were still high-passed higher than that (~80-100Hz), not at 40Hz. keep this in mind when you switch the speakers back to normal, full-range. but if it's any consolation, this is how subs were meant to be run in the good ol' days, before dd and receivers with crossovers. speakers were run full-range and the sub was used to fill in the low-end where the speakers naturally roll-off. if i was building myself a strictly 2-channel system with sub, this is how i'd do it.

so, who's going to outdo this with the "tower of mostest slam".

---------------- On 10/17/2004 7:00:43 PM scriven wrote: But he didn't say it was twice as loud. ---------------- ok, i removed the quotes. not sure why i put that phrase in quotes.

---------------- On 10/17/2004 1:28:32 PM colterphoto1 wrote: well, it's twice the wattage and double the cone area, so for a given decibel level, it's only HALF the cone movement and more amp headroom, thus cleaner sound, PLUS the aforementioned placement issue. ---------------- that's not how sound works. the dB scale is a log scale. 2 subs run at identical levels are not twice as loud as one run at that same level. it's not simply additive. 2 identical subs run at the same level will be ~3dB louder than a single sub run at that same level.

my single rsw15 is plenty. now shut up before you exert some influence over my little head.

well, do you want to cross your mains or not? you don't have to, especially with the type 2-channel setup you describe having; seems you may not really want to. probably just want the sub to fill in the low end where your mains roll-off "naturally", no? if you do use the sub's "crossover" in a speaker-level setup, be aware that it's "crossover" is really just a fixed high-pass filter (probably in the 80-100Hz range) with a variable low-pass filter (the knob). this is what most subs' crossovers really are. HOWEVER, you CAN run your fronts full-range and the sub can be connected to available pre-outs (merge R+L outs with a Y if your sub doesn't have separate R+L inputs). connect the sub via a speaker-level connection if you have no available pre-outs. leave the speakers connected as normally. then you can dial in the sub's "crossover" (really a low-pass filter) to fill-in the bottom end. that's what i'd recommend, especially if you fronts are substantial and you don't want/need to cross them over. but if you want/need to cross your speakers at some point other than that afforded by your sub, then yeah, you may want to look into an external crossover.

people have successfully programmed this function into their 3803/3802 remote. like i said, the 5803 has that function on it's remote and i think the new denon receivers' remotes have it, too. and some universal remotes have it, already. so, it's easy to "teach" the function to your remote, if you have access to a remote that does have this function.

---------------- On 10/15/2004 9:42:09 AM Griffinator wrote: Your senses are a bit on the slow side, Tom. This thread went down in flames quite a bit ago - probably right around the "Hokey Pokey" comment.... ---------------- no, it was before that

here's the manual http://www.usa.denon.com/images/pi_manual.gif

---------------- On 10/13/2004 1:34:39 AM 007 wrote: bo$e is only 7 years old Jay! ---------------- huh?

---------------- On 10/13/2004 1:45:24 AM nicholtl wrote: It's because you're using your 3803 as your center control hub for all video switching. In order to watch TV and listen to music, you're going to have to plug whatever is feeding your TV signal (I'm assuming it's coming from your Tivo) directly into the TV, bypassing the 3803 altogether. ---------------- NO!!!!!!!!!! taken directly from page 51 of the US manual: now, unfortunately, where this would be most useful - on the remote - it's not available. apparently, though, this function is on other models' remotes (like the 5803) and the 3803's remote can supposedly be "taught" this function. some universal remotes have it, too, and it can be "learned" from them, as well, iirc.

http://forums.klipsch.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=50686&sessionID={38D4B642-1D09-4C5B-B483-46E8684D5F5C} here's a recent pic thread

**STICKY** please

quote: "its a Ht guys and i am not a extremist " but you want to buy kef reference 207s or khorns for a ht setup..............

7 days IS too long for us to be answering these questions

quote: "i dont have more time to do research already invested 7 days in it." yeah. we're beginning to feel the same way. acha? in fact, since no one else will say it, i'll say it: I'M FINDING IT DIFFICULT TO TAKE YOU VERY SERIOUSLY. get whatever you want to get.

imitation = the most sincere form of flattery

i'll just add that klipsch and kef sound pretty different from one another

uhhhhhhm.................... you said that already

you're buying those strictly for home theater? no music? hmmmm............. i'm a kef owner, but not the reference series. kefs are distinctly different from klipschs, that's for sure. why, exactly, are you so dead-set on the kefs? not that they aren't fine speakers, but how did you come to those for a ht-only system? have you heard them? what other speakers have you listened to?