Travis In Austin

Fish are caught in nets and on hook and line commercially. I don't think any of it is fun for any of them. Would a fish rather be caught and eaten by a shark, a tuna, or by a fisherman? Fish don't seem to have much in the way of brains so I think that is why people don't seem to care so much. Kind of like chickens. If it is a baby chick and still cute that is off limits too. We do get very upset over mammals on the other hand.

Yea I don't see the 'sport ' in killing anything you're not going to eat.Bugs inside the domicile excluded. I think for most people that is the dividing line. If you harvest a deer or elk, speed goat, duck, etc. and consume it most people are ok with that. I think a lot of people draw the line where it is strictly to hang something on a wall. But I know a lot of very nice, normal, people that have a Zebra skin rug on the floor or wall.

Good point. Here is my response: That meat is unquestionably inferior in taste and texture. The only thing I can make of it is there must be 3 possibilities: 1. The guy is wired in a goofy way and really likes the meat, 2. The guy eats the meat to cover his unstable mental tracks (i.e., his lust to kill) , or 3. The guy gets the same kind of "thrill" from cannibalizing his victim. I think the ones in the first category deserve a pass. The others.... Nope. What if he is poor and gets his resident elk tag and shoots a cow and feeds his family for six months?

NOT IN MY THREAD, it doesnt have anything to do with this thread, start you own, but get it the hell out of MY thread, I don't want this thread locked because you can't control yourself. It is about how hunting a lion can morph into something you never expected, and hunting in general.

No. If you kill to get excited like you scored a touchdown in a football game, it's bad... period. We are not taking up the debate between vegetarians and omnivores. What if you get the thrill from catching a fish, a Marlin, or a giant blue fin? Is there a difference between the thrill a kid gets when when he/she catches their first fish and the thrill they get when they shoot their first, dove, duck or deer? Is "the hunt" internally wired in us? We obviously evolved from being hunters, and potentially being hunted. Our peripheral vision is better at seeing and reacting to movement then our central vision is just one example. Do all hunters have a mental defect, or just ones who hunt for trophys and not the meat? It seems to me that if the average person is not hung up on eating meat, it is pretty tough for them to say it is wrong to deer hunt. There are laws in every state that makes it illegal to waste meat. All I know is, they sure didn't leave me any buffalo.

Well there is hunting domestically here in the US, none of the animals are endangered, all except varmints or pests are hunted for meat. It is taxed, they raise funds for conservation and lands. In Texas, most western states, Wyoming, Montana, the mid-west, Ohio, Michagan, and others like Wisconsin, a significant percentage of the population hunt. It has been passed down from generation to generation since before the founding. Then there is fishing is that different? I don't know. Then there is people who eat beef, chicken and/or pork. Is that different, maybe a little. Veal? Farm raised duck, goose, elk, venison? Leather shoes? I have boots made out of Ostrich, American Aligator, Elephant, Sting Ray, Ant Eater, etc.,etc. Ant eater became endangered way after I got my pair. Mink coat, fox stole, beaver, coyote hood ruff, baby seal. Should it depend on how beautiful the animal, how cut, how majestic? There is mointain lion hunting legal in many, many states. Texas and Nevada advertise for them, but the bast majority of the public do not know how they are hunted. It isn't a complex issue, it is more about when, where, and how you were raised. If you have a wolf or mountain lion eating your sheep, you are going to kill it. Who was the professional athelete who had to kill a lion with a spear at age 14 as part of his culture? I dont remember a huge outcry about that, maybe because that was more of a fair fight. In places where you really have to live off the land things are seen differently. It is a matter of degree, some see a huge difference between eating a veal shank and harvesting a deer. Others maybe not so much.

Well certainly not the Lion of the Forum.

It just really amazed me how big a deal this became. Lions are the only big cat that are not on U.S. Endangered list, so their hides can still be brought in legally with proper permits,etc. I'm a hunter, mostly duck and some geese these days. I am to old to chase elk,deer and moose and other assorted animals around the mountains. If I had someone say lets go to South America for a dove hunt, an easy antelope hunt in Wyoming, phesant in Neberska I think I would probably go, but a bow hunt for lion? I am surprised they allow any of the Big Five to be taken by bow. Not sure how the facts are going to play out for him, but I think for sure people are going tontake a serious look at when they are hooking up with over there for any type of trip. Assuming he is fault free, I kniw that is a big assumption at this point, but just giving him the benefit of the doubt for a minute, I can't even imagine what it would be like at the center of that storm.

That would be Leo, is he stil alive. He used to be at the original MGM in Vegas, but they him moved him when it became Bally's.

Lute is from Spain? Any Segovia in there?

Trying to get a group together, there has been a major price drop recently. Travis

Great video, thanksnfor posting that. He cut over 600 songs as a session player ... in 1963 alone. A member of the Wrecking Crew, and member of the Beach Boys for 6 months. Here is one of him and amother famous picker, my favorite part starts abiut 1:55. https://youtu.be/-RuMnzSpvlg

You’re living Groundhog Day Man! You, me, Tarheel, Wardsweb, many others had a blast with reel to reel without ever meeting, unbelievable. I reaaly hope to meet you and Tarheel one day Travis

This is one of, if not THE, best original topic/post's I have read all year. Thanks for that. Travis

Here in an article from Time (which I thought was quite good) about medical marijuana. Here’s What Science Says About Medical Marijuana http://time.com/3931863/medical-marijuana-benefits/ It discusses that the the condition that has the strongest link to the effectiveness of medical marijuana is chronic pain. For other conditions the verdict is still out.

Very nice looking indeed, MC and balanced as options. Hmmmm

Any good alternatives you can suggest? I grew up on white bread and in recent years my wife has been packing my lunches with different types of 'whole grain' breads in an attempt to be more health conscious but from some of the things I've read here and there I don't know what's good and what's not. I'm still very uninformed on this but that needs to change. I would start here, an easy to read article that cuts through all of the BS, looks at mainstream diets from a scientific perspective, but in layman's terms. Edit: Here is the link to the article. http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/science-compared-every-diet-and-the-winner-is-real-food/284595/ It is very clear fruits and vegetables are an essential foundation for a healthy diet. As said before here, processed foods shoud be avoided. We have been trying to follow Mediterranean diet with a lot of success which is mentioned in the study. Here are a couple of excerpts from the article. "Among the salient points of proven health benefits the researchers note, nutritionally-replete plant-based diets are supported by a wide array of favorable health outcomes, including fewer cancers and less heart disease. These diets ideally included not just fruits and vegetables, but whole grains, nuts, and seeds. Katz and Meller found "no decisive evidence" that low-fat diets are better than diets high in healthful fats, like the Mediterranean. Those fats include a lower ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 fatty acids than the typical American diet. "They also found carbohydrate-selective diets to be better than categorically low-carbohydrate diets, in that incorporating whole grains is associated with lower risks for cancers and better control of body weight. Attention to glycemic load and index is "sensible at the least." Eating foods that have high glycemic loads (which Katz says is much more relevant to health outcomes than glycemic index—in that some quality foods like carrots have very high indices, which could be misleading) is associated with greater risk of heart disease."

Thank you for that.

When I worked in emergency at Downtown Toronto hospital the nurses got me to take polaroids (yes showing the age there) of teenagers after giving them activated charcoal and syrup of ipecac. They looked pathetic. We gave the pictures to the parents when they came and picked up their little angels.Typing this from treatment center I am in charge of this weekend. 34 beds and it's a revolving door here. Reading the comments here and it really seems the US drug policy is archaic. All the best to your brother twelveblocks!! I heard in Canada you can get Tylenol 1s and 222's over the counter at any pharmacy. Is that true or an urban myth?

It is one of my many weaknesses. I have watched a documentry or two on the subject on Netlix that were very informative. I will try to locate the names of them and post them here. Travis Travis

He will be in my thoughts

That is a topic that will get this thread locked quicker than two shakes of a lambs tail. I'm against the the upscheduling. But I think it is important for people to know the facts behind how things change in government, whether it is at an agency or a legislative body. HCPs was a great topic, it is a public health ISSUE. Which by definition means it has, at least, two sides. I think it is important for people to understand how the process really works, whether it is getting a drug upscheduled, or anything else. It is good to be skeptical about anything that happens in government. Some things are changed in smoke filled back rooms with elected officials and lobbyists. This wasn't one of those. There were people lined up on two sides of that issue, representing their own interests, including patient advocacy groups. It is important that people understand the process, and that they have a say. It apparently started with one physician submitting a petition back in 1999. Regardless of what side of the issue we are in, it is important to know the facts behind how it happened and what the arguments were on both sides. It is only in that way that one can have any chance at changing the outcome the next go around. Medical Marijuana is another good public health, drug policy issue that is coming from the exact opposite angle. Getting a drug down scheduled, or eliminated, from scheduling, state by state. Travis

They mention in some repirts that they "cited" her. Whatever type of lawyer, if she is only charged with misdemeanor possession of marijuana they would only cite here her. In Colorado they wouldn't even arrest her.The big question I have is: Is she going to bond him out again?

You can still carrry firearms on a general aviation (not for hire) aircraft. I have flown with my guns in my plane to go hunting in several states, and Canada. It is more complicated to go into Canada, and the tricky part is going into an airport with commercial operations and TSA. But generally, if you are legal to possess a firearm, and it is a legal firearm, and it is secured, you are protected under the federal "Safe Passage Act." I have no idea on what the law with regard to drones is, but I suspect it is not protected. The airspace above your property is in fact yours until you hit controlled airspace. In some areas near busy airports it can begin at the surface, most rural areas begin at either 700' above ground level (AGL) which is Clasd E, or 1,200' AGL, Class G. The FAA and FCC can limit the height of radio towers on your property, require you to light it a certain way, etc. Depending on what airspace you are in you can be limited in your ability to launch a model rocket. The United States directly, controls all the the airspace between 18,000 MSL and 60,000 MSL, this is what would orevent you from launching a satellite into space from yiur property. Above 60,000 gets into space law which involves space law, multiple agencies, etc. and I am not very familar with all that entails as my plane has a ceiling of about half that so I have never needed to worry abiut that. Texas does in fact have a laser light law in the Penal Code. I suspect this came about because if some kids goofing off with them near DFW. Of course local zoning laws would have height restrictions on actual structures. So yes you do own the space above your property, but like everything else, subject to local, state, and federal control.

Great to see you back, I missed your posts.