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It wasn't. Sorry, I tried. Leaving the pm does result in permanence, but now that we know it that mistake can be avoided. At this rate you may lose interest in your own thread due to propaganda and "beliefs." I stand by my previous post as well as my definitional posts which were a charity for those with such great educational knowledge it rendered them incapable of consulting a dictionary.

There is a format for those who insist on discussing the subject(s) not relevant to the thread. It is called pm's, but experience has shown that many here are too gutless for true freedom such as it can afford. Many would rather whine where it is not appropriate rather than participate where it is.

Your posts are all well and good, but consider the dates, and who was included, and who was not. Then consider the progress made after masses of people were free to pursue an education instead of it being against the law to teach them. The chart I quoted takes into account these differences. Widespread public education, a dream of Jefferson's, along with post war economic factors allowed for the rise of a solid middle class and far more inclusive than before. Also consider the immigration of multitudes of poor people after the civil war and well into the 20th century.

FYI for general knowledge: Why does the New York Times prosper while Gannett struggles? Here are four reasons - Poynter (I have no dog in this hunt. I am not a subscriber, nor a reader, nor a stockholder.)

Percentage of persons 14 years old and over who were illiterate (unable to read or write in any language), by race and nativity: 1870 to 1979 Year Total White Black and other Total Native Foreign-born 1870 20.0 11.5 – – 79.9 1880 17.0 9.4 8.7 12.0 70.0 1890 13.3 7.7 6.2 13.1 56.8 1900 10.7 6.2 4.6 12.9 44.5 1910 7.7 5.0 3.0 12.7 30.5 1920 6.0 4.0 2.0 13.1 23.0 1930 4.3 3.0 1.6 10.8 16.4 1940 2.9 2.0 1.1 9.0 11.5 1947 2.7 1.8 – – 11.0 1950 3.2 – – – – 1952 2.5 1.8 – – 10.2 1959 2.2 1.6 – – 7.5 1969 1.0 0.7 – – 3.6 * 1979 0.6 0.4 – – 1.6 Maybe your facts are different? By 1870 public education was widespread in the US, and it would have been sooner if people had listened to Thomas Jefferson.

Then there is it's nefarious cousin: disinformation definition at DuckDuckGo

In English, however: misinformation definition at DuckDuckGo

It doesn't qualify without pics...

You forgot, avoid feeding the trolls.

Ah yes! Alternative facts. I have heard that somewhere, I believe it was coined by an inveterate liar. Because, right wait, I remember another saying that the truth isn't the truth. Relativism at its logical extreme leads the ignorant down the path of total confusion resulting in the complete maleability of their minds. Critical thinking is the first casualty, and studies have shown that one cannot change others opinions through the exposition of facts. We are living Orwell's nightmare of mind control through the bastardization of language.

And it always needs hot sauce. Hot sauce is like cowbell. Needs more.

To those who put orders in, expect delivery on Monday. Thanks.

Good question, but knowing non factual information seems a lot easier.

Yep. I don't watch youtube much.

Disregarding the anti trust lawsuit brought against google by the gov, but thats not important right now.

Every song I hear with cowbell needs more. There should be songs that are nothing but cowbell. In my youth i set up an array of actual (not pro grade music cowbells but real life cowbells that i derusted and painted black) along with a latin percussion brand ridged cowbell along side my drum set. This was of course way before snl had their skit. Lots of us already knew the cowbell mantra.

You want fries with that?

Alright then. I watch extremely little youtube. Back on topic....

Agreed but the line blurs when delineating between official and "unofficial." Only true (official) state censorship is guaranteed to be protected against by the constitution. Nothing good follows censorship, yet corporations and businesses as private entities have been granted unlimited censorship regarding its employees and their conditions of employment. Concurrently, the same private entities are also allowed to censor anything that is attached to their property (see Klipsch Forum and moderation policy). But you have experience with that as I recall.

I'm not so sure it's that far off. I toured a house being lived in with good insulation and solar panels in the DFW area and it was comfortable. I was looking into the builder as a possible builder at the time. On the other hand, I'm keeping our house this summer at 75 and 72 sounds way too extreme. Personally, I would go warmer than 75 but the wife, well, you know what swmbo means.

It is a personal thing. Medium to some is quite hot for others. If you don't know, then you need more experience. As a long time chili head, my hot is pretty dang hot. I order my food at Thai restaurants "Thai hot." If you know what that means, then you can get an idea.

The scorpion will be called Inferno. The death spiral will be called Devil's Furnace, And the yellow 7 pot will be called Mama's Magma.

They compare around the same. The yellow I would call a medium hot, and the death spiral and scorpion are in the pretty dang hot range, and the scorpion has that long linger to not let you forget how hot it is.

I can currently offer some hot sauce for the chili heads on the forum. There is a scorpion based, a death spiral based, and a small amount of yellow 7 pot based sauces. Still at the price of $7 per 5oz bottle, or $15 for an 11.2 oz flip top, plus shipping. They will be ready soon and I am still considering appropriate names for the label. Pm for transaction details. Bon apetit.

He's put together a fast team.