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Daddy, In the II's I bought from Klipsch in 2004, I recall the foam to be laid in the cabinet floor, with the ends extending up? So the foam sheet was in the shape of a "U". I posted some pics a long time ago, they might still be in this forum somewhere. I could be wrong!

Anybody we know that got the TD124? 4 or 5 of here have one of those. We like to talk about them too.

Gilbert, I'd rather you thank me! You'll love the Neil Greatest Hits. Song against song, it sounds much better than my original Neil albums. Nice picture of an AR XA turntable on the inside too.

If you're not looking at them as a collectors piece, you're not trying to pinch pennies and you want to guarantee good sound, all their better albums have been released by Classic Records. Pricey for new vinyl but I have a few of their albums and they do sound sweet. http://www.musicdirect.com/stores/classicrecords.asp

Which is why I say "I wish". Doesn't mean I don't get it.

Is the idea to keep jumping tubes until you only have one? Like the old wooden triangle/peg game?

I wish those that do not like the VRD's would post here publicly for the rest of us to see. It's an equipment review, if you've got something legitimate and coherent(at least partly) to say about something, that's kind of what this forum is for. Damn if the only thing I can get here is positive reviews, I'll just quit coming here and start reading Stereophile. I wish I was heading down your direction in the near future. I'd bring the cats along and stop in for a Jube session.

So far Coyotee, the more than one person who has said they were not impressed with VRDs isn't speaking up? Looks like all very positive reviews 3 pages in. If you're ever passing through Ohio, you're welcome to borrow my pCATs. I have found them to be more detailed than all of the rebuilt Vintage amps I own. Marantz 8B, McIntosh 30, 225 and 240. I've not heard the VRD's so I can't compare pCATs to the VRD's although there have been several threads on the two of them with no clear "winner".

No problem. I'll send you an email. Look like a nice business you have there. Good Lord, I just looked at the title of this thread.... talk about getting off topic. Sorry 'bout that.

Any Klipsch forum member in the HVAC business gets a free pair of Klenk Aviation Snips on me. Karl Klenk was the PWK of Aviation Snips you know. Klenk is a division of the company I work for and we make them right in in Canton OH.

Good bluff Speakfritz. Scare off of those forum lowballers. Congratulations to you. Great buy on a pair of speakers that look as good as they sound.

Thanks Mike & Amy. I've been out of the country the last week or so. Just had a chance to catch up with the little hambone tonight. This little box embarrases the similar Ipod units I've heard. Typical of Klipsch speakers, the music really fills her bedroom rather than just sounding like music blasting out of some tiny little box. Very nice. Wife wants one for the kitchen.

Here's one of my favorite turntables. I don't have one of these arms though. Nice approach to Stereo. Wonder what a 7.1 Channel arm would look like?

It's a Transcriptors. I don't know the model number off-hand. They were very fussy, but looked really neat. Probably why one got used in "A Clockwork Orange" as the turntable of the dystopian future. The one I had was a Saturn, the smaller one with five weights instead of six. It was fun to watch, but not much as far playing records went. My personal favorite of the line was the linear tracking model. The cartridge was fixed and the entire turntable - base, platter and motor - moved laterally beneath it. That was the the Hydraulic Reference. Based on the legs, it would be the one made my JA Michell engineering. They supposedly were licensed by Transcriptors to make that model although there seems to be a rift about whether Michell ever paid anything to Transcriptors. I have two of them. It's amazing to think that turntable was designed in the mid-sixties. Even today, it still has a beautiful, futuristic appearance to it. I spent quite a bit of time, setting one of mine up. Replaced some parts and cleaned some things. It actually sounded much better than I was led to believe it would. It is really really, really quiet. And a beauty to watch. Stanley Kubrick saw it and asked to buy one for A Clockwork Orange. I am pretty sure the Transcriptors owner just gave him one to use in the movie.

He's bald now and looks like a used car salesman. Quite a change from the goofy long curly haired dude staring at me from the Frampton Comes Alive album. Still plays that wa-wa thing like a champ though.

Yea Gary what's spinnin? Allan the plinth came out nicel. I love the color

But when you get inside that sealed up sandwich of a bearing that the shaft rides in... it can be pretty ugly. I would totally clean and degrease these parts and relube them. The Schopper kit also included a ball and thrust plate for the motor. Rivet it back together and this motor ran like a charm. If anyone attempts this... Make sure you don't screw the motor back together too tight. The 4 screws that hold everything together. Too tight and the motor won't turn. Too loose and you'll have too much play. Have to do a Goldilocks thing and get it just right.

Speed problems. Rumble, noise in general. Any turntable with friction in the bearing is cause for concern. It's really easy to inspect though. Pull the platter out, peek in the well with a flashlight. You can see the spot on the thrust plate where the ball sits quite easily. I think the bigger divets like in the picture came from people's poor handling of the turntable over the years, not so much normal wear. These platters are so heavy, and the entire weight of the platter sits on this little ball bearing. I can see people moving these tables around over the yeasrs. Lifting here, plunking it down there. Two or three plunks and you can wind up with a thrust plate like pictured above. While I'm at it, the other serious problem I've encountered with these tables is a motor that runs like glue and/or once it is warmed up and running, is noisy as hell. Interesting thing, these motors has a very similar thrust plate in the bottom that the motor spindle rides on. Like a mini version of the main bearing. The motor spindle has a tiny little ball bearing in the bottom of it that rides on a flat thrust plate. The trust plate here can be diveted as well. That's a source for noise. And I have also found that by disassembling and cleaning the bearings that house the motor shaft, these tables can come up to speed much quicker than often reported. I think you can see the bottom of the motor spindle and the ball bearing in this picture... doesn't look all that bad.

It's easy to replace the bearing plate as well as the ball in the spindle with a kit from Schopper available online for about $90. I see some cheaper kits on Ebay now. I'm not sure if they're any good or not.

Back to Gary's toy... one of the common problems I have seen with well used 124's is a dented thrust plate. This little plate sits on the bottom of the main bearing well and is supposed to be flat. This divit was bad enough that it actually "trapped" the ball bearing in the spindle, wearing little rings on the ball bearing. No wonder I wasn't very impressed with this table when I first listened to it. Allan hasn't run in to this problem, however I've seen it on 3 124's that I've take apart.

Are they still top loaders? I hate that. I've got too many turntables and large amplifiers to make way for a top loading cd player. I had a Rega Planet that I really liked but it had some software problems(it was used) and I haven't looked at Rega since. I really liked the way that player sounded though. How much space above the player do you need to load it? Have any pictures?

Her birthday's not until June 15th. I'm kind of itching to sneak a listen.... but that wouldn't be right. I need to get it wrapped up soon.

Looked lonley here so I thought I'd mention I just bought one at Target for my daughter's birthday. Will be her first "Klipsch".

Tom, I hope Travis has some time to give you some thoughts. He knows RtR's. He hooked me up with a nice Pioneer and a load of accessories. I think there are a lot of other machines that would satisy you if you're just looking for playback. I used to have and Pioneer RT707 and a Teac 3340. I don't think either of those machines sells for that much and they sound quite nice. I've kind of got the bug myself right now, particularly after playing and recording some stuff on the machine I got from Travis.

That's funny! Allan, how do you get in touch with Juki? He's on ebay and Audiogon pretty regularly. http://stores.ebay.com/2juki Send him a message--he can provide many itemsthat he never lists (such as the Ortofon SPU range). His price for the SPU-GM mono was about 40% less than the Euro vendors (the cartridge is not available in the USA). Thanks Allan. I've wanted to try and SPU for some time now. I've got the perfect turntable and arm for one. Even if jazz, isn't my main thing, I'm anxious to see how it sounds on some of the mellower rock like Dire Straits and perhaps some of the alt-country and folkier stuff I like.