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Thanks to all those that contributed to the thread, some very informintive replies!
Btw,…….(but you don't need to spend anywhere near 2 thousand more to get a pair)……that's used, of course. New I believe are anywhere from $7,500 to $9,000 (which is list price).
My pricing was based on MSRP in Canada, to much varation on pricing in used sets. Of course used is the way to go.
Klipschorn has lower bass response but LaScala will have cleaner midbass that's more realistic, its a tradeoff.
I prefer LaScala with a horn loaded subwoofer to get the best of both worlds.
Im with Jason str
At this point I'm leaning toward the La Sacla with a horn loaded sub.
Any suggestions on a sub?
Tuba home theater (THT) will be your best choice, same efficiency and fully horn loaded design will be the best match or if you have the $$$ and the space there is a horn loaded Klipsch model but its bigger than 2 full size THT's. Tapped horn or dual 8" loaded Table Tuba would be a good substitute.
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Klipschorn has lower bass response but LaScala will have cleaner midbass that's more realistic, its a tradeoff.
I prefer LaScala with a horn loaded subwoofer to get the best of both worlds.
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Black stain may be a better option to touchup nicks & scratches then feather with satin poly.
Remove your drivers, XO's & cabinet hardware & drop them off at Maaco, i wouldn't imagine it would be more than a automobile paint job.
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Good thinking Claude, i keep throwing around ideas about making a another system with THT's for lows, DR midbass, & was unsure about the upper horn/driver combo although this may ultimately be an option for the workshop as i'm still using the white van speakers that really aren't that bad at low to medium volume levels.
I'm really very happy with the LaScala sound though it could use some touch ups here and there to perfect the sound, why drive yourself crazy going overboard.
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Nice looking work, the build looks very methodical.
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Glad everything worked out with the project, keep up with the pics when you start making the sawdust on the Jamboree's, I'm very interested in those.
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You could always tell the wife that there's places in the room where the bass response has dips in volume caused by room modes and you will probably need another matching subwoofer to resolve this issue. Another pair of shoes may be in order.
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Linky to our family's BBQ sauce. Mainly for ribs, try it on boneless country style pork ribs
Boneless country ribs is what i made for dinner with fried rice & corn on the cob.
Dam good too.
Sunday is my day to cook.
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Quiet Hollow is absolutely correct, i believe it takes quite some time until a driver is fully broken in. I run all my drivers for a minimum of 24 hours before install and still it gets better sounding over time.
What i do is run a 10- 20 Hz sweep then 10-15 Hz at night so not to bother anybody.
I after around 100 hours if playtime it will sound as good as its going to.
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BTW, Two 12" driver is the same as one 18" driver in terms of radiation area. Since your new horn sub has an 18 and a passive, it should have the same power.
18=1017
15=706
12=452
10=314
two 12's would only be 904 , one 18 is 1017
What do those numbers represent?
Area = pi x r squared
Area for a 12 = 3.1416 x 6x6
Area = 3.1416 x 36 = 113.1
=SD
Very nice looking cabinet, it much bigger than 2 good sized Tuba HT's
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Is it a good idea to install a filter of some sort at the intake vent to help keep dust down.
Cant hurt.
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Its finally arrived, and in the house. 31 inches going into a 32 inch door frame. i had to take the door off the hinges to get it in. I also had to unhinge the screen door as well. Has one small blemish on the bottom from shipping that is easily fixed, but otherwise, its prefectly HUGE. Its bigger in my room that i thought. Honestly it makes my KPT684 look small. First impressions are the sound difference. Its definately a horn. Cant wait to watch some movies, or maybe even listen to a couple fo songs my kids listen too...
You'll understand if i tell you that i have go now... pictures soon.
Great to hear you sub came in, sounds different right ?
After you spend some time with it your KPT will collect dust in storage.
I was wondering if it would fit through your doorway, its always one of my questions when somebody is asking about the bigger Tuba's.
Keep us informed.
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If you use the T pattern for your braces 1 1/2 or 2" wide material of 1/2, 5/8 or 3/4 thickness will be sufficient.
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Mount your intake vent low so it intakes the cooler air for best results.
Some fart fans are noisy but there are models that are nearly silent. Look at the Sone specs if the one you chose is too loud.
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Nice looking cabinet, bet it sounds good.
Thanks, I really need to get these to a show so I can get some more ears on them.
Dave
Too bad you're so far away, i love hearing new things.
I'm working on something myself but its a single full range driver in a multi chamber ported cabinet.
I would like to hear more about your mid range horn for my LaScala's when you have free time. Send me a E-Mail or PM when you have a chance.
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Nice looking cabinet, bet it sounds good.
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But price no object, space no object, wouldn't a great horn sub sound better (lower distortion, etc.) than a great direct radiator sub?
I would prefer a horn over any model myself, there are many other that feel this way too.
If floor space is at a minimum there are taller standing versions that can be used in a upfiring or downfiring configuration.
The Tuba 18 would take up no more space than most 15" versions at 18" x 18" x 19".
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Some are noisier than others, they are measured in Sones.
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Another option is to mount a fart fan on the ceiling vented to another room & a vent for fresh air to enter the closet.
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Maybe Santa will bring me a set of 402's this year, i have been very good.
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I would use whatever you have laying around. just make a T pattern with the brace to stiffen it up.
Use PL premium for adhesive, stuff sticks to just about anything.
Wear some gloves and disposable clothes, the stuff does not come off.
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Does the piss stain on the side of the cabinet come as standard equipment you think ?
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Something to consider when discussing distortion is that our ears are not equally sensitive to it at all frequencies. We're most sensitive in the midrange and much less in the low bass region. I've heard bass guitar and string bass players mention that many in the audience can't tell whether the musician is playing in tune or not.
For sound system purposes, this means that the higher distortion that a direct-firing subwoofer produces, compared with a horn sub, is not always obvious or objectionable. For many people, the direct-firing sub sounds just fine, and takes up much less space in the room. Even the $600,000 Magico Ultimate horn-loaded 5-way speaker system uses a direct-firing sub to go with its 4 horns, and its sound is said to be second to none.
Most people have never heard a horn loaded subwoofer to compare the difference in sound.
If you A/b using the same driver one horn loaded one direct radiating all but the deaf will hear the difference.
The woofer produces the most distortion of all the drivers as it has the most movement.
I cant see how something called the ultimate horn loaded system does not use all horns.
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RF-7's or Cornwall III's
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The Cornwall III's sound really nice, that would be my choice if there's enough room available for them.